Blade and Nem's IBIS Themed Mafia Game (Insanity Game #1)

[CYBER]

FIVE times that has happened!
I REALLLYYYYYYY wish people could write me a goddamn bulletpoint post as to what the actual fuck is so "sketchy" or "unlike cyber" in my fucking posts. People constantly keep throwing this EVERY. FUCKING. GAME. and every time they end up pushing me to the point of claiming or raging and voting myself off the game.

4 fuck's sake, I'm fucking tired of playing this fucking game each time rather than people actually relying on discussions and thinking (day 1 first world problems...). Blackmage and scribble, as much as I would love to satisfy that prodding of yours, but there's a goddamn reason why I refuse to give out any personal information, because that would either make me the target of the night, or never.
Hell you both didn't give out anything, but that's basically the point: let's just claim that cyber's acting funny, and then pressure more if he doesn't give information. Because clearly if that were done to us, we'd be singing like birds.. right? Wrong. If you have what I have, you'd stfu as well and hope for the best.

Three people are still talking about the clan joke?? really? It's funny how the only other discussion happening is people joking around blackmage's clan story, because that's the easiest way to make yourself known as active, but without actually discussing the game.
Sounds familiar about some people's behavior?

TWO minus lynch? And that was it?! I was at L-2, I just stayed there for the longest time without even bothering to post, and and I didn't get casually voted to L-1 and hammered, because most likely, the scum are already on board of the train already, and waiting until town gets to the anxious "fuck it, let's end this day already" phase and lynch me.
Everyone knows that's what usually happens. You put someone at high lynch chance, and just let the discussion die out, and post about anything and everything EXCEPT the person being voted off. Then town gets bored and anxious and careless and votes itself off.

One piece of information is all you'll get about my flavor or my role and how it is better for the unfortunate townies, to you know, NOT KILL ME, and it's posted already.
So if you want to lynch me go ahead, and then when you see the role you just lynched and how it is one of the most annoying roles you can have VS mafia or sk , write down every single thing I did this game and memorize it to heart so that you don't bring it up the next fucking game.

Zero fucks given at this point. You want to lynch me go ahead. Rosie of all people should not be voting me because he should understand how frustrating it is to get removed from the game before you get a chance to have a bigger impact .
Because I'm fucking done with this "oh it's day 1 , we got nothing, let's make cyber rage" game... That's the biggest fucking reason why i despise day starts.

[Rosie]

MMMMMEEEEOOOOOWWWW!!!

Zero fucks given at this point.

Meow!

So are you Zero?

I'm a little high right now, forgive me.

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So are you Zero?

I'm a little high right now, forgive me.

No i'm not.

@scribble .... are you fucking serious right now? you start a wagon to L-2 because of my long posts? I've said this a fuckton of times, i check the forums ever so often and i try to refer to multiple things at once to cover all I need to cover... if i was writing in short paragraphs, unlike my usual self, then i would be fucknig lynching myself for being the scummiest fuck on this planet

[SCRIBBLE]

I wasn't prodding you, like I said in my original post there wasn't much else to go on.

The reason people target you like this every game is because what you say in several paragraphs could have been said in a few sentences.

[Passarelli]

Blackmage, I was hoping there was going to be something useful there, but lo, there wasn't.

As a side note if we assume 6 town and 2 scum, towns win chance actually increases with a no Lynch. That said, this is insanity, so I'm thinking there are likely 2 factions or a 3rd party, which means that no Lynch isn't viable.

[StarsMine]

Blackmage, I was hoping there was going to be something useful there, but lo, there wasn't.

As a side note if we assume 6 town and 2 scum, towns win chance actually increases with a no Lynch. That said, this is insanity, so I'm thinking there are likely 2 factions or a 3rd party, which means that no Lynch isn't viable.

Thats assuming we have to lynch the 3rd party though.

[Passarelli]

Stars, I don't understand what you are saying. I was saying that if and only if the setup were 6v2 no Lynch would statistically be a good move. With it likely being 5v2v1 or 4v2v2 a no Lynch isn't viable. It's statistically better to take a chance to hit scum then to wait, even if we hit a townie.

I hope that clarifies. I didn't really want to go off on this tangent, I just figured it would be helpful for the newer players to get a little more information as to why a no Lynch is not in the interest of town.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I think he's saying mafia has a chance to hit third party.

[Blackmage]

Pass: I believe Stars is saying if the 5v2v1 has a survivor as a 1, we're in an equivalent position as 6v2.

I REALLLYYYYYYY wish people could write me a goddamn bulletpoint post as to what the actual fuck is so "sketchy" or "unlike cyber" in my fucking posts. People constantly keep throwing this EVERY. FUCKING. GAME. and every time they end up pushing me to the point of claiming or raging and voting myself off the game.

People love WIFOM. Let them eventually realize that people play the game and deal with it themselves. They're starting to figure out day 1 finally.

4 fuck's sake, I'm fucking tired of playing this fucking game each time rather than people actually relying on discussions and thinking (day 1 first world problems...).

In day start, Day 1 is about votes and learning what you can from those. We've had our first train. If we get any information, or even a better target, we can discus more. If we change our votes, we can start discussing motivations and voting patterns. And once someone is lynched, we'll be able to discuss more tomorrow. Before the votes, there is no useful discussion to be had.

Blackmage and scribble, as much as I would love to satisfy that prodding of yours, but there's a goddamn reason why I refuse to give out any personal information, because that would either make me the target of the night, or never.

That excuse there is such a sorry pile. Who in their right mind wouldn't claim that? If you can't declare your real self, you can lie. If you're bomb or PGO, you could declare Macho cop so the doc won't come try to kill themselves. Macho cop can declare bulletproof cop to stave off useless doc and find if the enemy wants to call the bluff. Declaring Doc in such a small game means we start a new train and we can get a free investigation night, since a successful protect is hard to make useful. Almost anything else can lead to a protect if you convince the doc. I see even less excuse for not giving flavour, short of you being Walter or some other lovely person.

Hell you both didn't give out anything, but that's basically the point:

Yes, the point is vote for people to get information. Not to trade information. We have all the freely given info, now we work for it.

let's just claim that cyber's acting funny, and then pressure more if he doesn't give information. Because clearly if that were done to us, we'd be singing like birds.. right? Wrong. If you have what I have, you'd stfu as well and hope for the best.

If I was concerned about Double voting, at L-2 I'd try something, such as stated above. You seem to be trying to be lynched.

Three people are still talking about the clan joke?? really? It's funny how the only other discussion happening is people joking around blackmage's clan story, because that's the easiest way to make yourself known as active, but without actually discussing the game.
Sounds familiar about some people's behavior?

Killing time while NOT JUST RUSHING TO LYNCH? You're right, that's NOT like Ibis. The only things that there are to talk about depend on YOU, Cyber. Until you give us something, there was nothing that should be done. What you seem to have given is a request to be lynched.

TWO minus lynch? And that was it?! I was at L-2, I just stayed there for the longest time without even bothering to post, and and I didn't get casually voted to L-1 and hammered, because most likely, the scum are already on board of the train already, and waiting until town gets to
the anxious "fuck it, let's end this day already" phase and lynch me.

Or, in an insanity game, with the prior game, people are wary of a double vote, and there aren't two scum willing to sac themselves day one to kill you? No one is pushing for "let's end this". They are doing what TOWN should be, and looking for what information we can get.

Everyone knows that's what usually happens. You put someone at high lynch chance, and just let the discussion die out, and post about anything and everything EXCEPT the person being voted off. Then town gets bored and anxious and careless and votes itself off.

Again, the only one at fault for killing the conversation is the one doing NOTHING to defend themselves except to tell us these are not the droids we're looking for.

One piece of information is all you'll get about my flavor or my role and how it is better for the unfortunate townies, to you know, NOT KILL ME, and it's posted already.
So if you want to lynch me go ahead, and then when you see the role you just lynched and how it is one of the most annoying roles you can have VS mafia or sk , write down every single thing I did this game and memorize it to heart so that you don't bring it up the next fucking game.

If you've convinced enough people with what you've posted, that's fine. If you go down in a blaze of glory, don't worry, I'll talk about it in the end of the game.

Zero fucks given at this point. You want to lynch me go ahead. Rosie of all people should not be voting me because he should understand how frustrating it is to get removed from the game before you get a chance to have a bigger impact .

That... Is precious coming from someone who is anti day start.

Because I'm fucking done with this "oh it's day 1 , we got nothing, let's make cyber rage" game... That's the biggest fucking reason why i despise day starts.

I'm sorry to inform you. "Try to get Cyber to play day 1" is NOT the same as "Try to make Cyber rage". If you're going to rage because day 1 is progressing exactly as it should, then you should stop playing mafia. I haven't stopped because I'm shot N1 every game. I've taken breaks because what's happening here (EG: Day 1 going somewhere) but I've not given up because I figured we'd get here some day.

@scribble .... are you fucking serious right now? you start a wagon to L-2 because of my long posts?

...He neither started this train, nor brought you to L-2.

I've said this a fuckton of times, i check the forums ever so often and i try to refer to multiple things at once to cover all I need to cover... if i was writing in short paragraphs, unlike my usual self, then i would be fucknig lynching myself for being the scummiest fuck on this planet

I totally agree. People who write long messages should be lynched.

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Since we've had sign of no hide nor hair of Blade or Nem, I believe this is up to date:

Blackmage - Cyber
Pass - Ass
Ass - Pass, Unvote, Stars, unvote, Scribble, unvote
Scrib - Cyber
Rosie - Stars, unvote
Trig - Rosie, unvote
Stars - Cyber
Cyber

Supposing no vote changers:

Assassin 1 (L-4)
Blackmage 0
Pass 0
Rosie 0
Scrib 0
Stars 0
Trig 0
Cyber 3 (L-2)

[CYBER]

Pass: I believe Stars is saying if the 5v2v1 has a survivor as a 1, we're in an equivalent position as 6v2.



People love WIFOM. Let them eventually realize that people play the game and deal with it themselves. They're starting to figure out day 1 finally.



In day start, Day 1 is about votes and learning what you can from those. We've had our first train. If we get any information, or even a better target, we can discus more. If we change our votes, we can start discussing motivations and voting patterns. And once someone is lynched, we'll be able to discuss more tomorrow. Before the votes, there is no useful discussion to be had.



That excuse there is such a sorry pile. Who in their right mind wouldn't claim that? If you can't declare your real self, you can lie. If you're bomb or PGO, you could declare Macho cop so the doc won't come try to kill themselves. Macho cop can declare bulletproof cop to stave off useless doc and find if the enemy wants to call the bluff. Declaring Doc in such a small game means we start a new train and we can get a free investigation night, since a successful protect is hard to make useful. Almost anything else can lead to a protect if you convince the doc. I see even less excuse for not giving flavour, short of you being Walter or some other lovely person.



Yes, the point is vote for people to get information. Not to trade information. We have all the freely given info, now we work for it.



If I was concerned about Double voting, at L-2 I'd try something, such as stated above. You seem to be trying to be lynched.



Killing time while NOT JUST RUSHING TO LYNCH? You're right, that's NOT like Ibis. The only things that there are to talk about depend on YOU, Cyber. Until you give us something, there was nothing that should be done. What you seem to have given is a request to be lynched.



Or, in an insanity game, with the prior game, people are wary of a double vote, and there aren't two scum willing to sac themselves day one to kill you? No one is pushing for "let's end this". They are doing what TOWN should be, and looking for what information we can get.



Again, the only one at fault for killing the conversation is the one doing NOTHING to defend themselves except to tell us these are not the droids we're looking for.



If you've convinced enough people with what you've posted, that's fine. If you go down in a blaze of glory, don't worry, I'll talk about it in the end of the game.



That... Is precious coming from someone who is anti day start.



I'm sorry to inform you. "Try to get Cyber to play day 1" is NOT the same as "Try to make Cyber rage". If you're going to rage because day 1 is progressing exactly as it should, then you should stop playing mafia. I haven't stopped because I'm shot N1 every game. I've taken breaks because what's happening here (EG: Day 1 going somewhere) but I've not given up because I figured we'd get here some day.



...He neither started this train, nor brought you to L-2.



I totally agree. People who write long messages should be lynched.

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Since we've had sign of no hide nor hair of Blade or Nem, I believe this is up to date:

Blackmage - Cyber
Pass - Ass
Ass - Pass, Unvote, Stars, unvote, Scribble, unvote
Scrib - Cyber
Rosie - Stars, unvote
Trig - Rosie, unvote
Stars - Cyber
Cyber

Supposing no vote changers:

Assassin 1 (L-4)
Blackmage 0
Pass 0
Rosie 0
Scrib 0
Stars 0
Trig 0
Cyber 3 (L-2)

After this massive post of yours, and your own words in bold, i will agree with you!

the way you played this, i'm more convinced than ever now. I was hoping you'd take the info i gave to satisfy your prodding, but it's clear that you don't care at all at getting info do you, you just want me lynched. hahahahahahaha

YOU of all people are really out of character, instead of playing the logical "play it cool" game of yours that you always do, you saw the opportunity that scribble RSV'd me, and kept pushing, and even made damn sure that no other conversation was made WHILE reminding everyone about my jigsaw comment when you went ahead and posted "not a clue, it's a quote" and MOST of the clan names.
You wanted to talk layout, but never talked layout except to discredit my point about the fact that discussing cult, multiple mafias, and all that crap is beyond useless at day 1 because day 1 IS in fact about who is voting on what.
I tried to play your game at first assuming you were trying to simply collect information, I was doing the same, but I didn't even help my case that i kept shut because people started wagoning faster than i thought at a small layout.

But it got old now,

Vote blackmage: He's a third party lyncher. And I'm the town bomb. Everyone fucking happy now with your stupid fucking retarded wagon???
And so help me god this is nemesis's hand in play by adding someone just to lynch me.

You want me lynched? you're the lyncher and want your side victory? I'll let you have it later. For now, cut the crap and let me focus on the real threat, which isn't mafia, nor you, but town stupidity.

I wanted to keep quiet and bait scum to come kill me by pretending to be something important that could hinge mafia or sks or whatever, but you guys ALWAYS fuckign want to force my hand.

THERE. oh and ps: if I get lynched, I will fucking take down the motherfucker who lynched me, courtesy of blade. So please, make sure you're the last one voting, because i'd love to prove my theory about you being a lyncher.

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for the people like assassin who never read a full post here's the tldr:

I am the town bomb. here i even emphasised it for everyone to see it bcos i cant use voting colors to display my role.
My theory is that blackmage's been pushing to keep me wagon'd bcos he's a lyncher.

Everyone happy now? YEAYYYY another "let's make cyber claim while not paying attention to his cues to back the fuck off game" fully succeeded.

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oh yeah actually i just read your psot that scribble didn't RSV'd me first, you did right here.
You started off with the first vote, i thought it was as joke like we always do at the start of the thread, but when people started pouring in with the votes, you never actually took a step back and unvote to let people think twice about wagoning, and see who really is eager to just end the day.
YOU started this whole stupid shit, and i would have been surprised by your incessant stubborness to not unvote, not slow down and think twice after i practically gave away my role in that long post you quoted, u know, the one with the numbers.
But now i'm more convinced than ever that you're the a third party lyncher.

now YOU tell me your story. I'm done telling mine.