Blade and Nem's IBIS Themed Mafia Game (Insanity Game #1)

[CYBER]

Um the admins aren't mafia...what my flavor was...

that was pretty much a given...

ok this is getting nowhere, so let's take a look at what's going on:

• Blackmage denied my discussion about the possibility that mafia is represented by clan members, and then casually dropped the JIGSAW clan name as part of a quote. At first I thought he could be a soft claim in order to tell us that his alias is a clan but he knows himself to not be scum, and trying to tell us subtly that clanners can be townies... but I'm not so sure anymore. My money's on it being most likely a coincidence since blackmage isn't normally a fan of mass claiming. +1 for that. So that was the thing I was trying to assess recently. He wants to talk layout, alright. With 8 people in, if it's a mafia setup, then probably 2 mafias, 1 third party and 5 townies. That's assuming it's a standard setup. Blackmage pointed out that it could be multiple SKs/third parties, which in IBIS terms could make sense now that I think about it (multiple offenders that aren't related etc).
• Assassin's been kind enough to tell us that admins are good... yeayyy-.-
• Rosie says that he can vote, but hasn't. Mentioned the lack of involvement last game, feels like he's trying to lay back and divert attention in the time being.
• Scribble still hasn't provided anything useful, but is putting down others (rightfully and wrongfully), highly active considering his usual play style. *cough* meta time: scribble's usually more laid back and sneaky when he's playing a scum, he's actively trying to prod people, giving off townie vibe for the time being.
• Still no clear fact whether the scum are the hackers, abusers, ula or clan, or a combination of the previous. In other words, that whole discussion attempt went to shit. But it was nice knowing that nemesis has an involvement in the flavor, so at least there's slight hope that the flavor will be beneficial to read and not completely dimwitted.

Those are the facts I personally cared for right now. Some of it are rehashed facts for me and others to look back on, and some are what I have been looking into.

Now that I mentioned those facts, what the actual fuck was that stars? Rosie and you bash heads, rosie votes on you, you reply to rosie and deny you being a mafia because you were mafia last time, and then PROCEED TO VOTE FOR ME, putting me at L-2 in a game where double-voters are possible, with no fucking reason or information?
what the actual fuck was that, stars??

[SCRIBBLE]

What I said about cyber was just reinforced by his last post.

[Passarelli]

Scribble, the problem is that Cyber's posts are always such. Epic in length with no actual substance.

I don't trust him more or less then anyone else, but Assassin's omgus vote early on rubbed me the wrong way. Other than that, Backmage is somewhat fishy still.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Blackmage is being really helpful this game to the point that i wonder if he is diverting. I voted for Rosie for the same reason scrib mentioned but it could just be how he plays. Take last game for example.

[Assassin]

unvote

[Trigger Unhappy]

Can someone unvote cyber? I feel like there is a double voter in there pushing him to L-1.

[Rosie]

Unvote

[Blackmage]

Let's start with: I am not Jigsaw. I will not claim Jigsaw. If there is a lie detector, eat your heart out. If I've soft claimed, twas not on purpose. Just used the word jigsaw because in my mind, that word means a far more complex puzzle.

I don't really want to discuss setup. Nor flavour. My triple SK was trying to take setup talks to the level of inanity and pointlessness we've taken our discussion on flavour to without wasting a few days there too. You have to be wary of both, such as double voters, but without EVIDENCE, there's no real point.

Trig, why would we unvote Cyber? If he thinks he's at L-1, he should treat it as such. If not voting for Cyber, then which player? We want someone at L-2, so we can get some information. I'll quote my prior statement.

Heck, it's usually better to stop at L-2, so we don't get a hammer by extra votes. Once there, we either get info, or push to L-1. After that, we either have info, or we lynch. Without votes, we run around like headless chickens for a week and wait for the mod to intervene.

Cyber knows he's at L-2 and gave us nothing solid. He didn't even make a vote or give us a hard alternative. His defense seems to be Stars made an error. Granted, my quote requires people actually feeling like voting for someone. If they don't, we'll have to vote elsewhere. But, until someone gives a good reason to change it, my vote stays.

Also, what do you think I'm diverting from? From the flavour discussion that seems DOA? Do you think there's something someone can say to clear that up, or do we need a death to show us what people are? From voting for me? Go for it. I'd rather there be a vote train than not, even if I have to be the target. Day 1 is about the votes. From people who aren't Cyber? We've had a handful of RVS votes, an actual vote by Pass, which I don't feel has merit, as I haven't seen any indication his line of logic is sound, and an OMGUS vote by Ass which he has taken back. I'm trying to get hard information rather than speculation, with both this question and in general, so I'm curious.

And yes, be suspicious of me. Beware Greeks bearing gifts (NOT A CLAIM, A QUOTE). Unless you have a teammate specified in your opening letter, don't clear ANYONE without HARD information. Figure who you can trust, but be wary of them.

[Trigger Unhappy]

And yes, be suspicious of me. Beware Greeks bearing gifts (NOT A CLAIM, A QUOTE). Unless you have a teammate specified in your opening letter, don't clear ANYONE without HARD information. Figure who you can trust, but be wary of them.

This is what I was getting at. I was just point out my gut feeling that you were being a little too helpful. I appreciate your thoughts on Cyber voting. You are right.. I was thinking that we should unvote to avoid a mafia hammer, but in reality Cyber hasn't given us anything to indicate that we shouldn't lynch him.

unvote

I wont vote for cyber yet. Want to see if he provides anything additional.

[StarsMine]

I did make an error, I did not see blackmage's vote, I thought I was putting him on l3. I dont see it as a big mistake. As for the mistake he thought I made, no, I dont think rosie is mafia just cause he went on the train of any reason, no mater how absurd goes.
I missed the supposed blackmage softing jigsaw as well.