Blade and Nem's IBIS Themed Mafia Game (Insanity Game #1)

[Passarelli]

Day 1 isn't progressing as it should. There should be 2-3 wagons with more than 1 vote. As it is, it looks like Cyber is going to get lynched without any real wagons to analyze, besides his, and there isn't much you can do with just one wagon.

[CYBER]

Pass: I believe Stars is saying if the 5v2v1 has a survivor as a 1, we're in an equivalent position as 6v2.



People love WIFOM. Let them eventually realize that people play the game and deal with it themselves. They're starting to figure out day 1 finally.



In day start, Day 1 is about votes and learning what you can from those. We've had our first train. If we get any information, or even a better target, we can discus more. If we change our votes, we can start discussing motivations and voting patterns. And once someone is lynched, we'll be able to discuss more tomorrow. Before the votes, there is no useful discussion to be had.



That excuse there is such a sorry pile. Who in their right mind wouldn't claim that? If you can't declare your real self, you can lie. If you're bomb or PGO, you could declare Macho cop so the doc won't come try to kill themselves. Macho cop can declare bulletproof cop to stave off useless doc and find if the enemy wants to call the bluff. Declaring Doc in such a small game means we start a new train and we can get a free investigation night, since a successful protect is hard to make useful. Almost anything else can lead to a protect if you convince the doc. I see even less excuse for not giving flavour, short of you being Walter or some other lovely person.



Yes, the point is vote for people to get information. Not to trade information. We have all the freely given info, now we work for it.



If I was concerned about Double voting, at L-2 I'd try something, such as stated above. You seem to be trying to be lynched.



Killing time while NOT JUST RUSHING TO LYNCH? You're right, that's NOT like Ibis. The only things that there are to talk about depend on YOU, Cyber. Until you give us something, there was nothing that should be done. What you seem to have given is a request to be lynched.



Or, in an insanity game, with the prior game, people are wary of a double vote, and there aren't two scum willing to sac themselves day one to kill you? No one is pushing for "let's end this". They are doing what TOWN should be, and looking for what information we can get.



Again, the only one at fault for killing the conversation is the one doing NOTHING to defend themselves except to tell us these are not the droids we're looking for.



If you've convinced enough people with what you've posted, that's fine. If you go down in a blaze of glory, don't worry, I'll talk about it in the end of the game.



That... Is precious coming from someone who is anti day start.



I'm sorry to inform you. "Try to get Cyber to play day 1" is NOT the same as "Try to make Cyber rage". If you're going to rage because day 1 is progressing exactly as it should, then you should stop playing mafia. I haven't stopped because I'm shot N1 every game. I've taken breaks because what's happening here (EG: Day 1 going somewhere) but I've not given up because I figured we'd get here some day.



...He neither started this train, nor brought you to L-2.



I totally agree. People who write long messages should be lynched.

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Since we've had sign of no hide nor hair of Blade or Nem, I believe this is up to date:

Blackmage - Cyber
Pass - Ass
Ass - Pass, Unvote, Stars, unvote, Scribble, unvote
Scrib - Cyber
Rosie - Stars, unvote
Trig - Rosie, unvote
Stars - Cyber
Cyber

Supposing no vote changers:

Assassin 1 (L-4)
Blackmage 0
Pass 0
Rosie 0
Scrib 0
Stars 0
Trig 0
Cyber 3 (L-2)

After this massive post of yours, and your own words in bold, i will agree with you!

the way you played this, i'm more convinced than ever now. I was hoping you'd take the info i gave to satisfy your prodding, but it's clear that you don't care at all at getting info do you, you just want me lynched. hahahahahahaha

YOU of all people are really out of character, instead of playing the logical "play it cool" game of yours that you always do, you saw the opportunity that scribble RSV'd me, and kept pushing, and even made damn sure that no other conversation was made WHILE reminding everyone about my jigsaw comment when you went ahead and posted "not a clue, it's a quote" and MOST of the clan names.
You wanted to talk layout, but never talked layout except to discredit my point about the fact that discussing cult, multiple mafias, and all that crap is beyond useless at day 1 because day 1 IS in fact about who is voting on what.
I tried to play your game at first assuming you were trying to simply collect information, I was doing the same, but I didn't even help my case that i kept shut because people started wagoning faster than i thought at a small layout.

But it got old now,

Vote blackmage: He's a third party lyncher. And I'm the town bomb. Everyone fucking happy now with your stupid fucking retarded wagon???
And so help me god this is nemesis's hand in play by adding someone just to lynch me.

You want me lynched? you're the lyncher and want your side victory? I'll let you have it later. For now, cut the crap and let me focus on the real threat, which isn't mafia, nor you, but town stupidity.

I wanted to keep quiet and bait scum to come kill me by pretending to be something important that could hinge mafia or sks or whatever, but you guys ALWAYS fuckign want to force my hand.

THERE. oh and ps: if I get lynched, I will fucking take down the motherfucker who lynched me, courtesy of blade. So please, make sure you're the last one voting, because i'd love to prove my theory about you being a lyncher.

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for the people like assassin who never read a full post here's the tldr:

I am the town bomb. here i even emphasised it for everyone to see it bcos i cant use voting colors to display my role.
My theory is that blackmage's been pushing to keep me wagon'd bcos he's a lyncher.

Everyone happy now? YEAYYYY another "let's make cyber claim while not paying attention to his cues to back the fuck off game" fully succeeded.

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oh yeah actually i just read your psot that scribble didn't RSV'd me first, you did right here.
You started off with the first vote, i thought it was as joke like we always do at the start of the thread, but when people started pouring in with the votes, you never actually took a step back and unvote to let people think twice about wagoning, and see who really is eager to just end the day.
YOU started this whole stupid shit, and i would have been surprised by your incessant stubborness to not unvote, not slow down and think twice after i practically gave away my role in that long post you quoted, u know, the one with the numbers.
But now i'm more convinced than ever that you're the a third party lyncher.

now YOU tell me your story. I'm done telling mine.

[SCRIBBLE]

You could have gone about this is a much different way. This is why people push you cyber, because you let yourself get pushed into a corner and do something stupid like hard claiming first day. Remember when assassin called me scum and voted me? My response was succinct and effective, because his reasoning was shit and it didn't merit a thirty-page paper on why town should keep me alive.

It's first day and you claim town bomb but leave out your flavor. What is your flavor?

[Trigger Unhappy]

You could have gone about this is a much different way. This is why people push you cyber, because you let yourself get pushed into a corner and do something stupid like hard claiming first day. Remember when assassin called me scum and voted me? My response was succinct and effective, because his reasoning was shit and it didn't merit a thirty-page paper on why town should keep me alive.

It's first day and you claim town bomb but leave out your flavor. What is your flavor?

Yeah, this seemed unnecessary except to make sure you are not lynched/shot. Bombs biggest contribution is 1 for 1 trade with mafia.. Wouldn't you be (more) useless now?

[Blackmage]

unvote

I have a thing I need to do, but I'll be writing my response shortly. I am unvoting not to unvote. I will hammer Cyber if he gets to L-1. If it's a bomb that takes out the voter, I'll take the death if people decide he's got to go.

[Assassin]

I thought bombs only killed if a night kill occurs..or day if it's a venge

[Blackmage]

First, non Cyber people:

Pass, a single wagon is all you get sometimes. If you find someone who comes out looking like scum, lynching them means you don't reveal too much to the scum. If you hit scum, all the better, but if you don't, you've still got voting patterns and interactions with the dead.

Ass: Some variants kill the last voter, but claiming that is beyond scummy, since it's a role town can't safely kill, AND makes you useless.

YOU of all people are really out of character, instead of playing the logical "play it cool" game of yours that you always do,

Could you please clarify? Do you want us metagaming or not? I can't keep it straight with you.

you saw the opportunity that scribble RSV'd me, and kept pushing, and even made damn sure that no other conversation was made WHILE reminding everyone about my jigsaw comment when you went ahead and posted "not a clue, it's a quote" and MOST of the clan names.

Rosie called out the Jigsaw comment first, and I never quoted anyone. I did the latter two things because Stars brought up the Jigsaw comment again. Sorry to tell you, but it was never really about YOU.

You wanted to talk layout, but never talked layout except to discredit my point about the fact that discussing cult, multiple mafias, and all that crap is beyond useless at day 1 because day 1 IS in fact about who is voting on what.

Post 47 I talk about setups. Post 60 is my next post but has nothing of substance. Post 68 I say both are a waste of time. Next time I talk about setup is 88, where I say I don't want to talk about either. Sorry to break it to you, but reading is FUNdamental. And you're full of crap.

I tried to play your game at first assuming you were trying to simply collect information, I was doing the same, but I didn't even help my case that i kept shut because people started wagoning faster than i thought at a small layout.

It took us 3 days to get someone to L-2. Yeah, fast.

But it got old now,

Vote blackmage: He's a third party lyncher. And I'm the town bomb. Everyone fucking happy now with your stupid fucking retarded wagon???
And so help me god this is nemesis's hand in play by adding someone just to lynch me.

You see? FINALLY! TRYING TO DEFEND YOURSELF. THANK YOU! FYI, not a lyncher, but GOOD SHOW!

You want me lynched? you're the lyncher and want your side victory? I'll let you have it later. For now, cut the crap and let me focus on the real threat, which isn't mafia, nor you, but town stupidity.

I wanted to keep quiet and bait scum to come kill me by pretending to be something important that could hinge mafia or sks or whatever, but you guys ALWAYS fuckign want to force my hand.

Someone's got to take the plunge first. Even after being asked, you gave no alternatives.

THERE. oh and ps: if I get lynched, I will fucking take down the motherfucker who lynched me, courtesy of blade. So please, make sure you're the last one voting, because i'd love to prove my theory about you being a lyncher.

More than willing to do so, as I said earlier.

for the people like assassin who never read a full post

Wow, the disconnect in this one. It would help if you practiced what you preached, methinks.

here's the tldr:

I am the town bomb. here i even emphasised it for everyone to see it bcos i cant use voting colors to display my role.
My theory is that blackmage's been pushing to keep me wagon'd bcos he's a lyncher.

Everyone happy now? YEAYYYY another "let's make cyber claim while not paying attention to his cues to back the fuck off game" fully succeeded.

Again, who WOULDN'T give off cues to leave them alone? Hey, mafia, if you say "Pl0x dun voet meh, I'm teh supar imports" seems Cyber will let you off the hook!

oh yeah actually i just read your psot that scribble didn't RSV'd me first, you did right here.
You started off with the first vote, i thought it was as joke like we always do at the start of the thread,

Correct.

but when people started pouring in with the votes, you never actually took a step back and unvote to let people think twice about wagoning, and see who really is eager to just end the day.

1. There was never any reason to unvote you. 2. No one was trying to "end the day". Only to do what town does and use their weapon, the vote.

YOU started this whole stupid shit, and i would have been surprised by your incessant stubborness to not unvote, not slow down and think twice after i practically gave away my role in that long post you quoted, u know, the one with the numbers.

...If you can't declare your real self, you can lie. If you're bomb or PGO, you could declare Macho cop... Hmm, was mage actually trying to SAY SOMETHING? NAH! CYBER MUST RAGE!

But now i'm more convinced than ever that you're the a third party lyncher.

now YOU tell me your story. I'm done telling mine.

If more people want to vote me, sure thing Hoss.

[StarsMine]

That was possibly one of the most disgusting in personal defense posts I have ever seen. Blackmage started nothing, like I said I unknowingly put you at L-2, I thought I was putting you at L-3. You are suggesting its 5v2v1 then go for a no lynch since that would be better for town and you dont risk blackmage pulling off his stunt. Blackmage did a shit job gunning for you since again, I voted for you not seeing the blackmage vote. I think his prodding was bullshit, but you did not need to go ballistic to get people off your back. No one in game was even talking about voting for you at this moment. Mafia going for the hammer would be stupid.

No Im not happy, I am annoyed. What you did there was stupid. You seem to forget we have minimal information to go off of day 1, its not just prodding we train for, its the damn train we train for. You claim a role that just turned you useless to town. Vanilla would be more beneficial then hard claiming bomb. You can no longer take out mafia for us. As vanilla at least you could be a meat shield for better town roles. There was other ways to get us to not lynch you, now your are the weakest asset to town. If you are town you just fucking shot us in the foot.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Agree with stars. This was a stupid play. Cyber you were trying to bait out town by softing a power role?? News flash this is a fucking insanity game ! Good damn. And if you are pgo and not bomb you ate threatening our investigative roles as well as mafia just to validate your unnecessary claim. No one even put you at l-1

[Blackmage]

Stars, since you felt my "prodding was bullshit", what should I have done? Day 1, we had 3 vote. Day 3, we had a few people at 1 vote, and Cyber at 3. We have finally gotten somewhere. It's day 9. No one is looking anywhere else, Cyber is the only one with any pressure on him. We haven't had any real discussion about the game at all. What did I do wrong? Hell, here's a quote from me:

I'm not asking for a full claim. But, yes, I'm asking for something. A reason to vote for someone else. Flavour. Doesn't even have to be from Cyber, but he is the one with any modicum of pressure on him.

Please, tell me what I shouldn't do in the future, what was my sin?