Pass/What Election Madness

[What]

how are you posting on here yet not on steam?

[SCRIBBLE]

Gg all.

[Blackmage]

Good game. Well won on town's part. Was interesting the entire way through. I also believe I only lied in 2 posts, and those were the requisite "I'm Town" posts. Like a good politician, I (hope I) actually never called Scribble scum, I just let you draw your own conclusions :P

First, one thing that may have been done accidentally or on purpose, but for future mods, look at this game. Flavour should be considered for balance purposes. Making one side good and one side evil is an advantage for Town. Having narrow or "required" flavour is an advantage to town. Having such a broad selection that everyone can make a claim helps mitigate that for scum. Having "obvious" roles not be (Doc carson not being a doctor role at all) is helpful to scum. Night flavour can be as well. This one came out and said exactly what we both did, without making it obvious it is such, and told us very little about the town. Flavour is not easy, and it was very well done here. Also realize if you don't think you can do justice to flavour a "simple X has died" will suffice. Side note would be to realize implications of your rules choices. Hiding information, having deadlines with abilities that rely on votes or even what you will tell players. Also, with co-modding, discuss with each other before you reply. Getting different responses from different mods means two players asking the same questions can have entirely different answers, which can end poorly. Balance is a lot more than just roles. I found this to be a very well balanced and thought out theme game.

LVP: The Modding. First and foremost: Make your own bloody rules post. The rules we have are "pretty straight forward". Votes must be coloured. However, it seems we needed a certain shade of red, but the rules on green are fast and loose. Also, purposely not updating votes after the arbitrarily negated vote when we've been getting regular updates is mods taking sides. You really shouldn't do that. There also needs to be something done about lines 8 and 9 in your version. There is no reason to break the rules you said we are going to follow. If you want your players to follow your rules, you really should show them the same courtesy. Luckily for me, I had already lost, so I didn't care. In a related note, if someone asks if something is against the rules, you really should learn your rules rather than saying "post it and find out". If you don't want people asking questions, try to be clear and not hide important information.

Choose deadlines BEFOREHAND. I don't like deadlines, but surprise deadlines are just lazy.

Pass: Thanks for actually being a helpful mod and answering questions. We will disagree on some things, but I had fun even after death

When trying to decide what my fake should be I was looking at claiming Vermin Supreme day 2 (CURSE YOU BLADE) as an alarmist. So I asked the mods how they'd respond to "Is this a bastard mod? Can a cult be included in the setup?" so I could know if I'd get Nem'd again and have my fake claim outted by a mod. I was not expecting the response "There are no bastard roles in this setup.", being an Usurper Redirector with my ally having Vanillaizer. Usurper lies to his allies, and two roles that are bastard depending on how you mod. Then I found out at night that the nilla'd person isn't informed and chuckled again. However, each to their own on what bastard is

Rosie, I kept going from wanting to strangle you, to being interested at your plays. I still have no idea why you voted on Scribble. I was also waiting for you to put a third on Trig. I sat all night with a unvote vote trig ready. After I failed to push you, I tried my hardest to give you an easy win :P If someone else died, we won, period. If I died, you had all sorts of options. Push Scribble because I was Usurper, plus then I would have had town's trust by killing GF. Once he claimed, point out his claim is what Cyber tried last time, plus he waited till everyone had claimed to make his claim fit both flavour and role. Save Trig, kill Zambi and let Trig get in the middle of Scrib/Cyber. I think turning on Cyber was about your worst choice. If you wanted to push him, Day 2 was the time.

Scrib: Welcome to my world. Doesn't matter what you do, getting people to lynch mafia is hard. I did find your obsession of me to be cute though, because you were claiming I was grasping at straws when you had less than I did :P Even though I don't agree with your standpoint on third party, and will thank you as a scum every time you choose to hunt them, you're my clear choice for MVP for this game.

Ass: We killed you on a lark. Yeah, we really had no reason to kill you.

Cyber: We nilla'd you to see if we could get you to rage. The result was as priceless, though not really ragey. I also told you we took your luster

Zambi: Not much to say. You were never seemed very sure of anything.

Trig: I probably would have let you live if both Rosie and I lived. Executioner is like Vig. People say you're bad if you're wrong and you might get some praise when you're right. However, other than allowing them an extra life past either Lo, Executioner isn't a very important role.

Blade: You claimed my claim! I tried to save you, but for some reason, Ibis has an interesting obsession with killing third parties.

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Totally side note: If no one starts a new game in the next week or so, I'll have a setup ready.

[What]

I accept your compliments on the flavor, I do good work.

And as to your questions, it was clear from the start this was not a bastard mod, but moreover you needled to try to see what we think about different roles, thats information that you should not get from the mods. Since bastard is subjective on some roles, if we say we think A is but B isn't well then we just told you for sure what role or roles are not in the game, thats not fair information for you to have. You have a habit of asking lots of little questions to build up a base of information not available to everyone, so we just cut it off at the knees, which is the best choice a mod should make. And bitching about deadlines? Blow me, you jack offs were taking way to fucking long and literally going nowhere. You'll see when you mod son, can't please everyone, so you just do what is right and deal with the chatter latter.

As to your vote update thing, I posted those very infrequently, the one time I posted them a lot was my way of trying to tell you guys to hurry the hell up, you thinking it was us taking sides is ridiculous and shows how much you over think these things.

[Assassin]

Well at least I know I didn't play wrong or give something away that got me killed this time. Am I the me Brett??

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Sigh....New*

[CYBER]

You can take that vanillarizer and shove it up your chocolate, pudding.

Made it work even though that shit was borderline bastardy as i didn't even get a notification that I became a vanilla or any of the like.
When my ROLE changes, even due to another role, it is usually customary to get a notification that your role changed.
ex: judas, traitor, universal backup, cult leader, etc.... So when i didn't get anything of the likes, it was nagging at me all the time that something was off, which partly made me look at scribble as he was the only one with a mysterious role that didn't even soft claim.
Never heard of vanillarizer but yeah.

God i busted my ass soooo hard to try to carry this game with the most little info i could find lol...
Scribble, I hate to tell you, but yes, i WAS intentionally baiting rosie, i even called it out beforehand to Tom and the likes just to have proof of the fact that i was suspecting rosie all along.
Rosie, u had me going , u just had one job and it was to NOT CHANGE ur siding from me to against me lol... that's what made me stop bashing heads with the incessantly nagging scribble and look at ur slip up lol.

[CYBER]

busted my ass this game and won a role madness as a fucking VANILLA LOOOOOL... with the help of scribble taking a step back and actually following up with me.
game was won when zambi FINALLY spoke.
g fucking g.

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Just out of curiosity.
Is anyone interested in playing a game of SPYFALL?
which should be a very relatively fast game until either "I" or someone else gets a mafia setup going next week? (sry... life been busy for me to have a balanced mafia game ready)


example of SpyFall games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCRbE2DMhw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJva1xq160


But we would be playing it as a regular forum game, VERY similar to mafia, but it's basically where everyone's trying to be the detective while also trying to not give away too much info.


let me know if that interests you. otherwise i'll resume working on my setup, but it will take a few days depending on number of players.

[I'm a zambi]

Totally side note: If no one starts a new game in the next week or so, I'll have a setup ready.

Most definitely ... I'll see what I can do about being more definitive in my suspicions. The reason that I was so slow on the last day was a lack of self trust. I townread Cyber and Scribble but was afraid of risking the entire game on a faulty D3 lynch.

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Also, sorry for pushing you so hard Trig, it's just that everything you said was contradictory or suspicious.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Most definitely ... I'll see what I can do about being more definitive in my suspicions. The reason that I was so slow on the last day was a lack of self trust. I townread Cyber and Scribble but was afraid of risking the entire game on a faulty D3 lynch.

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Also, sorry for pushing you so hard Trig, it's just that everything you said was contradictory or suspicious.

Nah you are fine. My head wasn't completely in the game and I was making bad mistakes. My reason for being out of it was I got married this weekend and was busy with prep and family. I'l do better next time.

[SCRIBBLE]

Vote Scribble <--- he is the Donald trump of Mafia games

Trigger is the real MVP for this post alone