Mafia Game: Donner Party 2: Don Harder

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As I originally said, your statement means, most likely, you are either scum or VT. That is a 50/50 shot. I am glad you see what I am saying about BM, especially due to his reaction.

unvote I'll give you that for now, but I am going to need more than your attempt to teach us all a lesson, which you have to see would make a fantastic gambit for a scum player. I am more than happy to discuss BM if others are willing, but people are impatient.

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And to your second post,

I don't think you are a VT, that's the first thing, if I was certain, I would withhold, but I am a firm believer and always have been, that deaths can give information, and VT's are expendable due to the numbers advantage of town. What we don't want is 5-6 people get wagoned and then claim, basically giving the mafia all the info they need, that was a big problem in some earlier games and solves nothing since again, scum can easily claim VT and who the hell will know until the are killed.

Again, its 50 50 for me, which aint terrible odds, its more than just one statement from you that had me vote for you

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Also, saying lynching you gives no info, isn't true, look at the discussion that has been done, there is plenty of nuggets for further investigation within there.

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As I originally said, your statement means, most likely, you are either scum or VT. That is a 50/50 shot. I am glad you see what I am saying about BM, especially due to his reaction.

unvote I'll give you that for now, but I am going to need more than your attempt to teach us all a lesson, which you have to see would make a fantastic gambit for a scum player. I am more than happy to discuss BM if others are willing, but people are impatient.

Im not gonna lie, I will need to look back at those BM posts for now because I was somewhat preoccupied with observing who's playing the "Cyber Banter" card to avoid talking.
But yes, in PREVIOUS games, even the ones that I modded, BM's slip usually lies in the nature of suggestions he makes. He'll help town regardless of what side he's own, scum or town, but it's the suggestions themselves that give away a "i need to keep an eye on you Mr Helpful" moreso that him actually BEING Mr Helpful.
The only time he's been able to get away with that is when someone else's being EXTREMELY scummy and pitted against him, such as scribble in the last mafia game when he was hiding his bomb ability.
Which is why I'm not seconding nor denying anything about blackmage's posts in THIS game, because BM's alliance is easier to observe standalone, not when pitted against another wagon option, which happens to be me at the moment.


and last comment about the VT lynch thing.
VT death when there's no other option and no source of information possible FOR THE GREATER GOOD, such as when a vig or cop has a shot at taking out someone with extremely high probability at night (>50% chance) so that townies can snowball the game off that.
but this early in the game, it doesn't work, but that's my opinion alone at the moment.

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Also, saying lynching you gives no info, isn't true, look at the discussion that has been done, there is plenty of nuggets for further investigation within there.

THAT is correct. Yes. Which is why i'm riding this wagon out, for the better or the worse. But I just wanted to point out how i feel about it, from my personal point of view.