Mafia Game: Donner Party 2: Don Harder

[CYBER]

my oh my ... so many words.
I must be a lucky charm to always start up conversations with wagons on me -.-

[What]

6 = lynch.... are you like being deliberately obtuse.

"We can't back down, we have to follow through......but only if I agree, yeah, thats what it was all along....."

I'm having a great time, keep digging that hole.

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my oh my ... so many words.
I must be a lucky charm to always start up conversations with wagons on me -.-

Well, BM shit his pants by mistake and now wants to write the next great american novel to explain why that smell was already there.

[Blackmage]

Ok what. Let's make this simple. Rather than waving your hands around trying to prove something is there, why not do the logical thing and quote it?

[What]

if Nem is rude to the mafia 1v1v9).

The easy one.

A terrible suggestion from someone well aware of the setup of this game as they have stated on multiple occasions.

[Blackmage]

I've played with bad mods like you before, so why would I rule out a possibility?

[What]

Once we choose someone, we pretty much have to lynch them D1. With no protection, and pretty much every NK being janitored, a good bluff would screw us. However, step one is deciding who to go for. We'll probably hit town day one, but the vote will be at least half town no matter what. The town has a few weapons, we need to use them.

This.

Once we choose someone - Cyber was clearly chosen, as said before, whether by boredom or poor planning.

We pretty much have to lynch them D1 - You did not want to do this. ie not following your own plan.

later in defense of me saying your plan was terrible you said . "Please, tell me what's wrong with stubbornly lynching once we've chosen someone? Which claim should we let live?" post126. Again, further hammering home that you deciding not vote Cyber was you not following your own plan.

Then - "My plan was we DECIDE someone to lynch. I did not say bloody wagon the first person to get some votes" - This is when you start playing with the language pretending you didn't choose to not follow your own plan. I mean you are basically arguing over the difference of Choose and Decide, and the wagon thing is pretty much the same as " stubbornly lynching once we've chosen someone."


Then - "5 people had decided. Which is not even half" post 140 Had we reached half, a lynch would have occurred as that is how these games work. And who could have been that person to put us over the half.........


You "decided" not to follow your own plan. I'm really not seeing how anyone else could not see this as well. The decision had been made, I could easily have said nothing about my suspicions of you and he would be dead, but I did, you went "oh shit!" and knee jerk voted, not realizing at the time it meant not following your own plan. Now you are scrambling and its hilarious. Nice bluff thinking I wouldnt bother getting the quotes.

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I've played with bad mods like you before, so why would I rule out a possibility?

Yep, keep swinging wild, some excuse is bound to convince people soon right?

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You realized you got caught, now you want to play with semantics and pretend it never happened. Cheerio

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Your plan was basically "We can't dick around and vote for a bunch of different people, we need to commit since not doing so would have terrible consequences"
This sounded like bullshit but ok, and then you decide to not follow through which by your own plan would mean you were making a terrible decision, which is why all of this is hilarious.

[Blackmage]

My plan was "once we decide on a person, we should pull the trigger". Not "once someone gets votes we should off him". Here's a fun fact: I didn't vote for you either.

Your problem seems to be that you think YOU deciding is the whole town. I am part of the town. I did not agree. In fact, the majority did not agree. Ergo, town did NOT decide. The town did not choose. It was a minority calling for the day to end. There was no consensus. This really isn't that hard, you just really wanted Cyber dead and now are trying for your second target. No semantics, just facts.

Also, the TOWN needs to decide. The reason I haven't taken my vote off of you, is because you're not town. However, there was no discussion on Cyber until you posted something. There was no "town deciding who to vote for" in any case. There was just "town deciding to end the day". One gives useful vote information. One gives a lot of "oops, but I didn't really care" if it's wrong, which, while scumtell, I doubt that all of them are scum.

Put simply, if town had decided, Cyber would be dead.

Also, you explaining what I said is, once again, putting words in someone else's mouth. You really are a lovely hypocrite, and not ashamed of it. Of the last 3 things of mine you've quoted, you've tried telling me what I said after I explained what I said twice.

[What]

As you say. unvote vote What

So this isn't a vote for me?


You are playing with semantics, I am not putting words in your mouth, I'm grounded in reality and you are vacillating pretending that you can create nuance where none exists. I accused you twice of pretending to be the one who gets to decide things for the town and now you are saying that I am doing that? How? I have not brought forth plans and argued that decisions can't be made without my consent, thats been all you. You can keep swinging, but I think its pretty clear if people read through, and I am more than willing to have them show you what they think.

I never said you had to vote for cyber, I said if you were consistent and followed your own plan you would have. The problems I had with it, which you said put words into your mouth, are teh same problems you highlighted later on with following the train. Go home BM, you're drunk.

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See, a train on cyber always reveals information. Though I'm not particularly excited
to read a two page argument between two people who could very well be teammates.

[StarsMine]

My plan was "once we decide on a person, we should pull the trigger". Not "once someone gets votes we should off him". Here's a fun fact: I didn't vote for you either.

Im confused, is 6 votes on a person, not town deciding to pull the trigger on someone? There is no logical difference in the two scenarios you posted.

Town essentially did decide until you backed out. Its Majority vote, not Unanamous.