Mafia Game: Donner Party 2: Don Harder

[Blackmage]

Oh, you caught me. You're right. I didn't mean when back they were voting for you, OBVIOUSLY. Yup, guilty as charged.

Anyway, how is telling someone what they said NOT putting words in their mouth? What convoluted double think brings you to THAT interesting idea? Evidence A: I explained what I said. Evidence B: You are telling me what I REALLY said.

I accused you twice of pretending to be the one who gets to decide things for the town and now you are saying that I am doing that?

You're telling me that, because you have decided, I should have voted. Use all the semantics you like, but that's what you've been telling me. You're taking away my autonomy because you have decreed it, rather than allowing for what I want, which was and still is, having the town choose. And because this has gotten tiresome, if I HAD voted, I would have been deciding for the town too. If you really think following this damned if you do train of non-logic will get you somewhere, feel free.

Side note, WOW! YOU JUST NOTICED? Part of this conversation has been me pointing out that you are doing most of the things you are claiming others are doing. Having bad ideas, putting words in mouths, playing with semantics, being defensive, trying to be the leader.

Scribble: I get bored, then someone like Mikey or What say something stupid, and I get to write. No one else contributes because it's good camo, it becomes me Vs. Them, someone dies, often not one of the two of us, and the game goes on. In this case, What has been pushing so hard that I'm scum because of #logic or something that I'm convinced he's scum, because I don't really think he's THIS dumb, and either he IS scum and trying to deflect, or he honestly thinks I am scum. At this point, having both of us on the same team would probably be a bad thing, as I know I'm not letting up until one of us is dead, or the cop clears him.

If you want this not to happen next time, I can skip the game or run it

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Stars: We only had 5 votes for him. Where is the sixth person who decided to vote for him? 5 is less than half of 11, so is NOT a majority.

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The game is over everyone, pack it up. Blackmage won it for us.

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I didn't realize bumptious was a role.

[What]

Im confused, is 6 votes on a person, not town deciding to pull the trigger on someone? There is no logical difference in the two scenarios you posted.

Town essentially did decide until you backed out. Its Majority vote, not Unanamous.

This BM so much this. This is what I have been saying. The sixth vote is the clinching vote, you are acting like you wouldn't make a decision until after the person had been lynched and at that point who cares? I mean how would a "decision" even be made in your plan? A general agreement to lynch someone looks a hell of a lot like a decision to me.

Look BM is a person with no votes on him, all I said was for people to keep an eye on him due to what he said this game and how past games have gone and he has lost his mind trying to defend himself.

[Trigger Unhappy]

3 of the 5 votes could be non town. I don't believe cyber is mafia (yet)and i refuse to keep lynching someone based on meta. It's too easy to lynch cyber.

[What]

It boils down to this. I pointed out BM's tell when he was playing mafia in past games, and how it looks like its going down that road again, so we need to keep an eye on him. He got spooked, and knee jerk voted for me not realizing that it was him just unprovoked digging himself a hole. It led to a number of rambling and self-contradictory posts in order to defend his genius and point out how he was doing nothing suspicious. He is arguing over semantics and not reality. The reason is that he can not do either of the two things he should have done in the first place.

A: Admit his plan was terrible as I pointed out, despite his continued defense of it.

B: Admit he did not follow his own plan.

While neither of those options may be enough to get him lynched, it sure as hell would cause someone to take a close look at him tonight or at the very least scrutinize him tomorrow. He must be worried that in either scenario he is unlikely to be cleared or be able to clear himself, hence the rambling and personal insults.

[Blackmage]

What, I see no explanation of how putting words in my mouth isn't putting words in my mouth. Just caught in your lie and trying to say things enough that people might think it's true?

Scribble, I missed me winning anything, what did I let slip that will help? Also, bumptious isn't a role. It's half of Ibis. The other half just hides.

[What]

BM when you are arguing over what "decide" means, refuse to acknowledge that a decision's threshold can't be after a lynch occurs, and to argue for a "Stubborn" train yet refuse to continue a train according to your plan, its not putting words in your mouth, its you flailing around. Trust me, the only thing I want to put in your mouth is my tongue after a candle lit dinner and all appropriate consent has been given.

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Your tigger blackmage, is your inability to acknowledge, that maybe, just maybe your thoughts and ideas are not infallible works of art, and your inherent need to defend that illusion led you down this path.

[Blackmage]

Why can't the threshold be after? ELI5.

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Related: Who decides what the threshold is.

[What]

Why can't the threshold be after? ELI5.

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Related: Who decides what the threshold is.

The mechanics of the game decide the threshold, are you being serious right now? This is still mafia right?

[Blackmage]

I don't know, you tell me. You say a decision does not need a consensus of any sort, so I'm can't be certain what you believe.