Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

[StarsMine]

I really don't understand. Resisting at this point is scummy and dumb. We already hit one scum, and there aren't enough safe claims for both of the other two.

In reference to the Mirror? The Mirror speaks nothing but truth. He isnt a villain.

Right now, Zambi is the most scummy due to his role claim without claiming flavor. Everyone else that hasn't claimed flavor is close behind.

I dont know, it goes pretty well with cybers claim, but yea I dont trust him either.

It's all or nothing. I'd you had those thoughts you should have said so earlier before half the players claimed.

Who? Your being disingenuous again.


Also cyber, shut up, you always commit slight oversights, but thats the first smart thing you said all game, and yes that is one of many reasons mass claiming flavor is a terrible idea.

[Assassin]

Well we have like 4 people left. Lets just get a train going until they say who they are because apparently they aren't getting that this is the way it'll go eventually anyways

[What]

If there are less than 7 dwarves in play, that opens up a safe claim, that if mafia is lucky, can easily carry them through. It also opens up the possibility that, if Pass is the prince and the titular character is certainly in play as well, that some of the dwarves could potentially be evil if they are all in play. The biggest danger, is that with names and characters like those used in the story, roles can be figured out pretty easily as well. I'm still trying to play through the possibility that if a wrong decision day one could open up the door for a scum victory based on knowing all the likely roles. No one who has claimed yet has claimed a character that would clearly telegraph a role that shouldn't be made public.

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Also Cyber, the beloved outing themselves to be lynched is beyond idiotic, since there death skips the day regardless, and the most common modifier is that the day skip only happens if they are LYNCHED.

[Nemesis]

PS: side note. if you actually a Beloved princess role, make fucking DAMN GODDAMN SURE to get LYNCHED instead of KILLED, if there's no garanteed mafia to be lynched that day.
Don't get stubborn about it, because you'll just fuck us over even worse.
Again, assuming such a role is in the game, but i'm pointing it out that Snow white isn't a role you'd wanna avoid claiming if that's what you're affraid of.
And in fact, it would be an even worse action to not claim it

This is 100% a lie. I can't believe Cyber is that stupid and is therefore trying to manipulate the town into doing something stupid.

Lynch Cyber now.

VOTE CYBER

[Passarelli]

Stars, my comment was mostly aimed at Blade and Zambi, which should have been obvious. I really don't get why you are calling me disingenuous. Also, the mirror may speak truth but this does not make it pro town. If anything it is a 3rd party which is still scum.

Also, if you dig back into the Grimm version, there is this plot point:
"Mirror, mirror, on the wall,
Who in this land is fairest of all?

It answered:

You, my queen, are fair; it is true.
But Snow White, beyond the mountains
With the seven dwarves,
Is still a thousand times fairer than you."

Based on the question posed, the mirror didn't have to say anything about Snow White.

There are only 3 roles in this story that can even be scum, and you are saying that 1 of them isn't? I know that Scribble said this is a bastard game, but I'm guessing that is because there are hidden role modifiers (grumpy is likely a Miller and the like) and not because the flavor is fubared.

Finally Stars, if you felt that way why the fuck would you claim yourself? You expressed some doubt but then went ahead and claimed anyway before everyone voiced their opinions which basically forced me to claim. I had to claim my flavor early if I were to be believed since I'm not a Dwarf or Snow White.

What, there are only 12 characters in the story. The Queen, the Huntsman, the Mirror, Snow White, the Prince, and the seven Dwarves. With 11 people in the game, that leaves 1 safe claim for scum to use. We should get at least 1 more scum out of this play, and one pretty good suspect because they hesitated so much. That is the reason I went along with it.

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This is 100% a lie. I can't believe Cyber is that stupid and is therefore trying to manipulate the town into doing something stupid.

Lynch Cyber now.

VOTE CYBER

While I agree Cyber is useless and his ideas are 99.9999% retarded, you should just ignore his ideas rather than waste our lynch on him. We have 1 scum nailed down and 2 to go.

[Nemesis]

The problem is his noise gets in with everything else. Weaker Willed peopled, like Assassin, start to hear it, and now you have a growing problem.

[CYBER]

Also Cyber, the beloved outing themselves to be lynched is beyond idiotic, since there death skips the day regardless, and the most common modifier is that the day skip only happens if they are LYNCHED.

I just checked on mafiascum. And yes. (I'm so fucking done playing this game from my phone, so expect late-night replies from now on instead of half-assed on-the-go posts from my phone).

That being said, this, yet again, begs the question: is there a reason as to why you WOULDN'T claim it if you are beloved princess? (this is getting a bit sidetracked, but thanks for pointing that out, i can't remember wtf it was that actually yields better results if lynched... was it virgin? anyway.)

The ONLY two MAFIAgame roles that wouldn't want to claim are Doc and Cop.
And unless the flavor SPECIFICALLY relates to an obvious role, i don't see why, as a townie, you wouldn't claim your flavor so far AT THIS STAGE OF COMMITMENT to Rosie's awesome plan.

If you are town, and you're refusing to claim flavor, you're just putting a target on your back right now because scum will be narrowing down their targets at night for those who didnt claim, who might be a mix of THEM and town power roles... so you're really just hindering town with delaying the inevitable after we comited to this plan, instead of casually sneaking your flavor early on without drawing much attention to your power role...

[Rosie]

Players included in this game:
1. Assassin (C) LIVING Dopey
2. Blackmage (C) LIVING Mirror
3. BladeTwinSwords (C) LIVING
4. CYBER (C) LIVING Happy
5. I'm a zambi (C) LIVING Sneezy
6. Nemesis (C) LIVING
7. Passarelli (UC@start) LIVING The Prince
8. Rosie (UC@start) LIVING : Bashful
9. Stars (C) LIVING Grumpy
10. What (C) LIVING
11. xx-DeCiMaToR-xx DEAD - MODKILLED


This plan had a better chance with everyone who is town claiming rather quickly. The slower it is the more likely scum can figure out Decimators dwarf and claim it.

Vote Nemesis

You pushed too hard, even if it was Cyber. So here is my claim or die wagon choice.

[Assassin]

Nem why would you want to use a lynch on a pretty much confirmed townie instead of say bm? Honestly wondering.

[Passarelli]

Unvote

I'll give this till morning before I start jumping on wagons to force people's hands which is something I'd rather them do so on their own. Right now we are only waiting on 3 people. What, who didn't disagree with the plan, Nem who has ignored it, and Blade who has refused.