WCS Rules

[CYBER]

So just to clarify something: For races such as eye of rah, is there a set time by which they should switch from a back of the group mentallity to doing the objective actively? I thought it was set that everyone should start gunning for the objective by no later than 1:30 however have yet to find a post stating as such.

If i hear anyone mentionning the 1:30 'rule' again, im going to bitchslap them... This RULE was created by in game cry bAby regulars who kelt sayin 'these hosties need a minute to Walk straight to safe zone uninterrupted, i need 30seconds to get them and possibly protect them, so fuck off, im camping"....

Look, excessive camping that DELAYS the objective is not allowed, there is no TIME limit for it, it just is. I played eyerae a lottttt, and i usUally camped out the first 2 summons (total 40 seconds?) . Say on aztec, my teammate has the bomb, protected by others, going to B to plant.

I would tke the back end sewers, summon 2 ppl to kill, Nd keep walking to B. i am not holding off the objective bcos my teammate is doing so, im Actually helping him by kling enemies then move to bombsite.

Now, if my allies died, and im the only one left to get the bomb, i BETTER be doing the objective as priority, summoning if safe as second option. But now me camping would delay the round..

It doesnt take a genius to tell u to check TAB often...But there is no time limit, MY personal tAke on this is that as long as the objective is being completed by someone, and u are trying to kill ppl or assist, and not afk, then i dnt care what u do. But if the objective is affected by u camping, then it is excessive and i dnt like that.

[Blackmage]

For anyone curious, a little pre-"written rules" (by a day) discussion including camping rules: here

Ok, so I was questioning the rules before they existed! And, I'm mentioning the "1 minute rule" that was suggested in there.... Only because it's not the one Cyber doesn't want to hear about!

[blackmail242]

I apologize for this the only reason I brought it up is because this was one of those "rules" that even I thought really did exist. Also this post: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...6821#post56821 is confusing even more so because it states that unless he is the last one alive and his teamate is not "doing the objective" then he is not required to stop camping

[Blackmage]

IMO, what that's saying is, as long as the objective is being completed, you can do what you need to support your team. Respect the objective does not mean everyone needs to be rushing for it. It means it needs to be completed. However, you ARE supporting your team by pulling enemies out of position. It also says that if there are only a few left, you DO need to stop camping.

As long as the objective can reasonably be completed without you, you can continue to support the team from the back. Once every man is needed, get a move on, do what needs to be done.

[StarsMine]

I still never got a clear answer to my question.

And yea, if your not heading to the objective or being an asset to getting the objective done by 1:00, your a useless teammate. If everyone is dead and your still sitting in the same spot or running circles in the same area, Im going to be annoyed.

[maynard]

regarding the objective time limit... it really comes down 2 the person... everyone is responsible for making sure they do their part... if you drag your ass, and don't get 2 the objective in time, well that will be seen as you not doing the objective... depending on the race you're playing, you should know how long it will take you 2 get where you need 2 be.

if there's only a couple people left on your team, you should be helping them as best you can, not hanging back and trying 2 just get some kills with eye ra.

completing the objective must always be respected and attempted.



regarding the nade on objectives.. not sure what's so hard 2 understand about this? the rules clearly state that a clear path must be available 2 the opposing team for the objective at all times... I can easily throw a fire nade on a bombsite, and it still have more than enough room for a CT 2 come and defuse the bomb... a poison smoke nade is a diff matter as it's a far bigger damage radius... each person needs 2 make a judgement that if where they throw whatever it is they are throwing, that it wont conflict with the existing rules.

If you guys really want, we could always just say no special nades, or regular nade spamming on the objectives... I know originally that is how we had it.. over time it did end up changing.. not sure how or when... but the way it stands now, if people are smart, and read the rules... they really shouldn't have an issue.

[blackmail242]

The issue we have is basically the hell hunterclass on dust2 on bombsite B. He can sit up there in the skybox above it drop a poison nade on the hallway a fire one on the double doors and then lay fire down on the third entrance with his ulti. Thats if they play fair.

If not then they just throw a fucken nade no matter what type on the bomb or relatively close and just sit there waiting to here hurt to unleash the hell that is their ultimate

[StarsMine]

So next time I see a hell hunter cook a smoke after planting a bomb for the sole reason of droping it when they get shot will get a nice boot in their ass

[HypeRNT]

Blackmail i know you aren't suggesting that Hell hunter is OP in some way on dust 2? I don't care how many smokes he throws or what he does, the class is perfectly balanced and fun to play and should be left alone.

On the objective rule, i have never seen any punishment whats so ever about people camping or being useless. Not once have i seen some1 being slayed the next round for making all the people watch fail teammates not doing their objectives and wasting every1s time. There should be a rule of some sorts were at a certain time like 1 minute mark you should be moving to the objective and trying to attempt it. If its a bomb map, you can take your time because it only takes a few seconds to plant the bomb, but if its a hostie map, it takes a long time to get the hosties to the rescue zone and that's were i would love to see more punishment.

I also understand that sometimes you just have to do a safe round were you don't have enough money so you are trying to keep your gun, but too many times i see people playing vaga's and just teleporting around the map with their head up their ass and not doing shit, for times like those, i really wish they would get slain the ROUND AFTER so they would be forced to watch every1 play for the entire round like we had to watch him play and do nothing the previous round.

[Chikun]

I also understand that sometimes you just have to do a safe round were you don't have enough money so you are trying to keep your gun, but too many times i see people playing vaga's and just teleporting around the map with their head up their ass and not doing shit, for times like those, i really wish they would get slain the ROUND AFTER so they would be forced to watch every1 play for the entire round like we had to watch him play and do nothing the previous round.

That would need to be handled very delicately or it would be like blowing up Hoover Dam and unleashing a lake of salty tears onto the abuse section of the forums.