Using the kill command should only be done if two invis races are stuck and are the last two alive. The one ego should use it is determined by the type of map: t on de_ maps, CT on cs_ maps. Not doing so is in essence excessive camping. Using kill to deny someone a kill is against the rules in my book. It's like you're losing in checkers and you just throw the board across the room. It's very poor sportsmanship, and shouldn't be encouraged.
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Yes, denying xp by suicide should not be allowed, specially a vaga that was stuck by a lace by a NON-frozen race (not vagas or rap)... even if its gonna take him the entire fucking round time to find that invis vaga, u cant just go kill urself and deny the guy the xp. but if two stuck races are left only, like brett said, T suicides for de_maps and CT suicides for cs_maps, bcos thats how the round will announce it if they dnt do obj.
as for the rest, This is my opinion and my opinion only: typing kill after 8+ rounds or whatever to buy tomes, because you reached 16k, have already 3 shopmenu items and 5 tomes should be perfectly fine. You're losing ~9k worth of shop items to do so...
People dont usually kill themselves at that point if they didnt think 'hmm i cant spend my EARNED money on anything?!" ... Not to mention that the the KILL command fucks your kdr, and our community mostly gives a fuck about stats...
The same goes for vagas or neb and raps killing themselves at round end to get rid of a kit, with all due respect but zero should have implemented a 'Drop kit/bomb feature for all invis races on their +ability keys... Currently T vagas have an edge over ct vagas when it comes down to being flagged by a floating object.
If zero isnt going to implement this patch to BALANCE both teams of invis races, then personally me i will fucking kill myself every time i randomly pick up a fucking kit dropped by an idiot teammate who decided to die through double doors or on bomb etc... Its not easy spotting a kit on ground when teleporting to that spot 100 ft away>_< ...
im willing to play out the round WITH the kit, so that i do my objective and not deny someone xp in spotting/killing me, but after round end, the only person im harming with a suicide is myself, to get rid of that kit.
Last edited by CYBER; 08-03-2012 at 08:54 AM.
+1 Agree that this should have no affect on gameplay. Even more though, I really like the idea of a +ability for Vaga's seeing as the function is not being used for anything at the moment. To keep it still more challenging, what if a new set of levels was added for +ability (call it "Stalker" or something) where you get 3-15 seconds where ALL items (bomb + kit) are also invisible. Gives vaga's time to plant without being seen (hopefully getting those players who just use those races for kills to actually do their objective), or defuse.
@Cyber, you should post your idea on the race suggestion thread, would like to see that aspect balanced more as you said.
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Originally Posted by maynard
Problem is we have rulings such as that first one found here. Second ruling here. Also, ruling such as the popular "glitching flight races was allowed" which ALSO goes against our rules, but was ruled to be allowed. Our rules are not the most consistent or clear.Originally Posted by maynard
Yes, this is against the rules, I just want it in writing by an official source. We also have the issue we're not supposed to make up our own rules, so the best way to combat that is ALSO having it written.
Edit: and technically it's going with the rules. If you are stuck, you cannot complete(respect) your objective, and therefore SHOULD kill yourself.
Last edited by Blackmage; 08-03-2012 at 02:44 PM.
If they're cooking it and standing there to try and get around not throwing it, it's abuse anyway, but I digress. The way I read it, you can nade the objective (as in area) but not block the actual objective.
Should go back to the way it used to be. No fire nades smoke nades on the objective, treated like wards, its much easier to enforce and makes more sense.
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