Spasm <ibis>: i thought mexicans came to murrica not canada
Spasm <ibis>: :O
Cyber ibis.a: free dental and health plan ^
Cyber ibis.a: sry mmurica, u got outbid
Cyber ibis.a: senor.
Spasm <ibis>: its not truly free
Spasm <ibis>: someone pays for it
Spasm <ibis>: rich ppl
Cyber ibis.a: exactly
Cyber ibis.a: canadians
Cyber ibis.a: i just get the free stuff
Spasm <ibis>: typical mexican
So what, I think I have never died because of that. The race is broken and it is almost pathetic how OP bash is. 200 HP, Helm, Lace, Cloak, Teleport + a bash that freezes you, freezes your cross-hair, and moves your cross-hair. It should be mentioned even without any items whatsoever, human is still difficult to kill. A Human with a lace and a usp is still better then most races.
You can literally hide almost anywhere any corner, and if your even remotely a good shot, you will kill your target. How can they even respond when they can't aim move or really do jack shit. If by some miracle it doesn't glitch or no bash proc, then you have to chip through 200 hp without a headshot, good luck doing that before getting bashed again. There is literally tons of people that play nothing but this race, it's a starter race, it shouldn't be the best race you can play.
In my opinion even if bash was completely removed from human, human would still be one of the best races. I think I speak on the behalf of quite a few wcs players that this race needs to be seriously looked at.
Spasm <ibis>: i thought mexicans came to murrica not canada
Spasm <ibis>: :O
Cyber ibis.a: free dental and health plan ^
Cyber ibis.a: sry mmurica, u got outbid
Cyber ibis.a: senor.
Spasm <ibis>: its not truly free
Spasm <ibis>: someone pays for it
Spasm <ibis>: rich ppl
Cyber ibis.a: exactly
Cyber ibis.a: canadians
Cyber ibis.a: i just get the free stuff
Spasm <ibis>: typical mexican
Completely agreed with this. I wouldn't go as far as to say that bash needs to be completely removed, but would it be possible to just take out banish out of bash so it would work properly? There's never going to be complete and perfect balanced - nor would we want that. However, I would have to agree with Spasm here - as of now, human is indeed a broken race.
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I told them I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard."Our subject isn't cool, but he thinks it anyway - he may not have a clue, and he may not have style, but everything he lacks, well, he makes up in denial!Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back.
I have to agree with the fuckers here...
I used to not give a flying fuck about Human because i didn't see the potential this race had. After playing around smart with the race, i have to agree that the current bash is over powered as fuckity-fuck-fuck! (i mean i love using it myself, but i still think it's unfair)
Bash itself should freeze you for that 1 second. it should NOT proc a banish on your ass as well. it should make u stumble, sure, but not COMPLETELY lock ur crosshair!
I mean for heaven's sake i saw spasm standing still by a molecule shield, and throwing a grenade that literally jerked and fell 10 feet away from him because his crosshair got locked... and spasm never fucking misses lol...
I wont go as far as completely removing the bash, it is a VERY essential skill for the skill, more-so that the race's invis, tele or health...
However i do ask that it does NOT fuck up ur aiming by locking ur crosshair.
I see that zero is concerned about bash vs flyers. And i have to agree that that is one of the most important reasons why i play humans: to counter flyers and vagas and flame pred ... And the bash+banish is very handy.. but not fair. I have YET to see a santa slam to ground because of a bash.
My suggestion: Remove the BANISH EFFECT of the bash, and increase the bash freeze time by 50%. (make it closer to a second and a half rather than the current 1 second).
WHY you ask? to compensate removing the banish effect. A 1.5s bash that procs at the current rate is more than handy to be used in the same manner against the above mentionned victim races, but AT LEAST THE ENEMY HAS A CHANCE TO AIM AND RETALIATE WHILE FROZEN WITHOUT HAVING A LOCKED CROSSHAIR.
Anyone in favor/