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claw of attack and ak not as effective as claw of attack and shotty...
in fact, even without the claw, shotty is very problematic on jack...
if there was a 0.0001 cooldown of each skill on jack, it would allow the POSSIBILITY of proc'ing one of each (clubs, hearts, diamond) on a shotty burst, but not many of them at the same time...
u're trying to remove an item completely from a race just because of a combo it can do with another weapon on THAT race.
a tiny 0.00001 cooldown on skills would solve THIS problem and many many others without forcing people who use claws on jack with a scout or deagle or wtvr the fuck they use to be punished for jack/claw/shotty...
but that's a chat reserved to the jack thread, im talking about bash being an op skill that does MORE than just freeze.
Between freezing, fucking up your aim (yes, still does that, not as strong as before but still does that) and negating your exit strategies, the skill itself should be either nerfed with an inner cooldown, or turned into something that would simply fuck your aim and not freeze your or vice versa...the latter being impossible, an inner cooldown is more effective than an overall proc % nerf...
althought i certainly wouldn't mind a proc% nerf, even though an inner cooldown will solve multiple issues we have...
allowing zero to increase some % procs on some races (like rapscallion blades and others, while still controllable...)...
hell if u wanna talk about jack? and undead and santa? with an inner cooldown to negate the claw/shotty whoring, u can now increase the amount of health leeched, without making a race op because it would still be controllable.
nway,,, Wolf will be able to explain this a lot better than me... i think he's more intuitive when it comes to exploits and combinations, with his experience in wcs overall, and his league experience on stats and items.
he was planning on posting here... no idea where he is now
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