004 Night Elf [0] v1.0.9

[What]

wolfen try testing it where the guy you entangle has been standing still, not running or jumping or crouching, just have mass stand perfectly still, entangle him and see if the aim is fine or fucked up, that would show whether or not momentum/movement is the root issue.

[Masskid]

wolfen try testing it where the guy you entangle has been standing still, not running or jumping or crouching, just have mass stand perfectly still, entangle him and see if the aim is fine or fucked up, that would show whether or not momentum/movement is the root issue.

The issue is that the slow doesn't allow the player to reset his recoil. This was already apparent with camelions skill that slowed you down when you hit them. The game needs time reset your momentum for recoil but its moving at like 0% speed so it never reaches the amount of time to reset recoil, the slower the movement is the longer it will take to fix the recoil of a gun.

[Wolfenstinger]

Here is a set of demos with the following :

Auto Shotty
Pump Shotty
Para
Dualies
and a HE Nade. Because we got curious. (There is 2 of them because we were trying to figure out what happened the first time.... The 2nd one made more sense.)

All of these are standing still. No running. No jumping. No crouching. Just purely standing up and not adjusting my mouse as I shot until I go to shoot Masskid.

[Passarelli]

Entangle, medusa's gaze, as well as bash still most definitely screw with aim and it is very frustrating.

That said, I'm curious why entangle gives the message, "Enemy has immunity" even when the person with the lace is not within range of entangle. I liked being able to use it as a rangefinder, but as soon as someone gets a lace, that idea is kaput. I'm not sure if it is intentionally programmed this way, but if so, orc, athena and other races with targeting ults should also do the same thing.

[Wolfenstinger]

Here is a set of demos with the following :

Auto Shotty
Pump Shotty
Para
Dualies
and a HE Nade. Because we got curious. (There is 2 of them because we were trying to figure out what happened the first time.... The 2nd one made more sense.)

All of these are standing still. No running. No jumping. No crouching. Just purely standing up and not adjusting my mouse as I shot until I go to shoot Masskid.

Old but they are still about the Entangle issue that's being brought up atm.

[CYBER]

Old but they are still about the Entangle issue that's being brought up atm.

What it felt like was that when u shoot under entangle effect, its almost as if your stationary crosshair/aim is repositioned slightly higher than usual each time u shot because the entangle effect "freezes it" back in place at the very end of the shot instead of resetting the cross hair back to the original pre-shot position... The more u shot the more u shot upwards, and even started to shoot the ceiling above and behind u while aiming horizontally to a wall in front of u... The demos are there zero...


What I don't understand is why bash or root for example, who are mainly to slow down your MOVEMENT drastically, end up freezing your v_model view and screen when turning or smthn too... I personally see the effect as more of welding the feet in place so that they dnt move on the plane, but i dnt understand why mouse rotation are also affected and actually locking your aim slightly before ur intended target.