006 Shadow Hunter [60] v1.1.1

[Spasm]

I think it's 50% just like the description, I am assuming it's hex that's allowing the damage, just because I have done it without lace and voodoo on.

[CYBER]

I think it's 50% just like the description, I am assuming it's hex that's allowing the damage, just because I have done it without lace and voodoo on.

tested that with brett.
without a lace, a maxxed shadow hunter had about 50% chance to proc hex, allowing him to shoot through the molecule shield without a lace AND without having their ultimate activated.

[Passarelli]

Does Hex actually allow shadow hunter to avoid other skills such as Bash, Lightning, Critical Grenade, or Locust Swarm? I've never noticed it, and I can't remember ever evading things like Locust Swarm. I always get dinged and then heal up. From my play experience, the only useful thing for Hex is to counter molecules, and with the 33% dodge chance on top of Hex only having a 50% proc rate, I've emptied large clips into molecules and not killed them. I've noticed it doesn't apply to wards hitting them either while bubbled (though I think it used to). I'd also really like to test shadow hunter v shadow hunter and see if you can shoot through their ultimate sans lace, as I can not remember ever having this happen either.

By the way, if anyone is interested, a shadow hunter has a .385% chance to hit a molecule inside his bubble. This is not high at all IMO, even though I'm fairly sure it is supposed to hard counter molecule. Especially if Hex is not working against other abilities.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

By the way, if anyone is interested, a shadow hunter has a .385% chance to hit a molecule inside his bubble. This is not high at all IMO, even though I'm fairly sure it is supposed to hard counter molecule.

nothing should be able to pen a molecule shield or shadow hunter invuln. nothing could pre-OB. nothing should now. shadow hunter is not a "hard counter" to anything. it is a very strong class that can fuck up many other classes if played right. the entire point of the class is to give newer players a chance against higher-level classes. this does not mean 100% enemy classes, but rather being strong enough to stand toe to toe.

[Passarelli]

nothing should be able to pen a molecule shield or shadow hunter invuln. nothing could pre-OB. nothing should now. shadow hunter is not a "hard counter" to anything. it is a very strong class that can fuck up many other classes if played right. the entire point of the class is to give newer players a chance against higher-level classes. this does not mean 100% enemy classes, but rather being strong enough to stand toe to toe.

if(!W3HasImmunity(attacker,Immunity_Ultimates))
{
War3_HealToBuffHP(victim,dmgamount);
}
else
{
W3MsgEnemyHasImmunity(victim,true);
}
}[/CODE]

The way the code is set up, it is working correctly. This is not pre-OB. I'm sure Zero has a good reason for keeping that else statement in there. Without it, shadow hunter would not be hit by people with immunity. I'm sure he has a hook elsewhere that would not allow a SH to use the ultimate within 30 yards, as with other classes. My guess is balance. Shadow hunter is very powerful even with being able to be hit by people with laces. The class that gives newer people a chance against higher level classes would be human or night elf, IMO.

[Passarelli]

By the way Zero, I have noticed that because shadowhunter heals the damage during their ultimate, a undead can reach absurd amounts of health by shooting them during the ultimate. I am not sure if you intended this. If not, using a similar line of code to the line for helm to simply reduce all damage by 100% would stop this from happening.

[CYBER]

By the way Zero, I have noticed that because shadowhunter heals the damage during their ultimate, a undead can reach absurd amounts of health by shooting them during the ultimate. I am not sure if you intended this. If not, using a similar line of code to the line for helm to simply reduce all damage by 100% would stop this from happening.

hahahah... nothing is more hilarious than watching a shadow hunter round a corner and bump into an undead/santa/jack that doesnt have a lace, drop wards, activate invul, and shoot them crazy... and they just keep shooting back, rehealing allllllllllllllll the ward/bullet damage AND THEN SOME...

done it a few times myself... i actually like it the way it is... allows the life leeching races to counter a shadow SLIGHTLY if they are good players that can aim for shit... u know... assuming u didnt have the bucks for a lace and antiwards:P