Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
The reasons people respond as they do are twofold. First, many of the things you've mentioned have been said before, sometimes by many people. Second, we disagree with them. I will agree that some people's responses are... less than helpful, but for my part, I'm trying to show you WHY I disagree with them, or to try and get you to expound.

As such, let me see if I have this correct. The complaint is that Spiderman gets into position too fast so that other than other spidermen on most maps, vagabonds on some maps. You were trying to use getting into spawn as an example. You want the starting cooldown lengthened to compensate. This about sum it up?

Perfect, the races are NOT. Also, "as it is" isn't what we're arguing. What we're arguing is that we have some races coming that will change how the server plays. That we don't want to change something that will have another useful counter coming out. While it is taking longer than we hoped to have the server running back where it was before the Mac update, the meta that existed then and likely a slight variation of that, is what we're arguing.
First of all, all i do is run my mouth? your funny check my posts i have a huge total eh? that's one big mouth. Second, since blackmage has decided to actually post a response and not a random useless flame, il reply to him. Stated in your second paragraph "The complaint is that Spiderman gets into position too fast so that other than other spidermen on most maps, vagabonds on some maps." This is not a complaint, this is a mere observation which i then proceeded to give an educated answer which some people here seem to PMS if there is any negative feedback or suggestions to THEIR races/server.

You have not mentioned anything about any other races countering spiderman in any of your previous posts, and what im saying here is that there is no problem, i personally use this race pretty often or any time i need to catch up on kills. What i posted in my original post was that, it would be helpful if he had a cooldown much like many other races that take maybe 10 seconds after you are allowed to move before their ults are active. This would be a simple suggestion to a simple problem which is spiderman can get to bomb sites to quick(doll's as an example) or vega(westwood/aztec) before any of the other CT's could get to the bombsites to cover or to properly get rdy for such action.

Now this is just 1 small problem, but its also a small quick and easy fix/tweak or what ever you want to call that wont cause any tear's to some of the forum poster's. Thats all i said, im not sure were all this hate/flaming is coming from considering i have not said negative thing about a single person on the server or on the forums.