016 Vagabond [310] v1.1.8

[SCRIBBLE]

I propose a 3.0 second cool down be added to this race.

Not going to happen. This is not every other server you have played on.

[KholdStare]

Not going to happen. This is not every other server you have played on.

1.5 second cooldown? 1.0 cooldown? Just so that they have to spend that tiny bit of time NOT invis to give people a chance... If you think that vagabond is a weak race because its cooldown goes up ONE second, then you are clearly using the ult as a crutch. Its a powerful race without non-stop invis-teleporting and much less infuriating. With other races you feel you have a chance - if you are good and fast you can usually pop off a headshot and win. With my level 16 human I often take down maxed Santa and the like, but basically just avoid all fights with vegabonds (same goes with the other invis teleport races). I use radar/lace/wards/roots/etc but it rarely works.

How about restricting some items for vaga? No lace would be a great start!

[SCRIBBLE]

Nope.

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Stick with it, try playing vaga more, and learn to know your enemy.

[Erdenay]

I propose a 3.0 second cool down be added to this race. Although some people argue that this race is 100% balanced as is, the fact remains that this has got to be the single most bitched about race there is for a very good reason. The cool down wont be so long as to prevent the race from being used effectively, but will prevent it from being quite so hard to kill for those of us that dont have every counter race maxed and enough cash for lace+health every round.

Every other server I have played on has had a cooldown on the invis teleport so that it is used as it was intended - as a quick escape and way to get to sneaky spots for a sniper race. It was NOT intended to be the hard core attack race that it is. If 3 seconds is deemed too long (it would be 5 seconds if i had my way!) then 1.5 seconds would at least be better than it is now.

I feel this was about vegalion and rapscallion too - ill post those on their topics if this gets any response

Not even close to being most bitched about race. Also, it's fine as it is.

[CYBER]

Not even close to being most bitched about race. Also, it's fine as it is.

hey new guy, u see the guy i just quoted? CLICK ON HIS FUCKING LINK AND LEARN HOW TO COUNTER VAGAS.

Vaga is NOT op. its very balanced. Buy a goddamn lace, sty out of the open, LISTEN, pay attention to the radar, learn their tells, stop being a bitch, and learn to play the game.If u cant do all of the above with erdenay's guide whih includes a 'how to kill the vaga monster' guide, then u simply dnt belong in here.

As simple as that. Everyone bitches about vagas and claim they will op to if they ised but the bottom line is that almost every idiot who couldnt counter a vaga will BECOME a crappy vaga and suck balls at it because its not that easy to master. Might be easy to play with a bunch of noobs that cant counter them (like u) but put them against me, wolf spasm tom masskid (whether we are vagas or not) and u'll see them crumble.

Also 3 seconds? Did u get high on raging before posting this? NO to ur entire post.

Read how many ppl bitched about it before in this same thread and u'll see them now able to counter those same vagas bcos they learned to stop bitching about OPness and start learning.

[SCRIBBLE]

CYBER are you trying to alienate new players?

[Chikun]

Every other server I have played on

This server prides itself on being different.

ill post those on their topics if this gets any response

The responses won't be positive as this topic has been talked about for longer than it takes to pass a bill through U.S. Congress.

[ZERO]

Reprograming started

[CYBER]

Go easy with that one. Don't fuck shit up or mess up the timing by a fraction of a millisecond. I know that race timing by heart!

[ZERO]

Well I already found like 15 global vars and a ton of lines that are being optimized and removed as junk code. (mainly poorly optimized effects)