022 Magician [130] v1.0.8

[CYBER]

intended or not . lets face it : magician is completely useless otherwise. probably one of the worst races if it wasnt for the crow that rarely activates... not to mention it would cost about 7 or 11k+ 2 have 2-3 of these items after they died

[maynard]

magician is only useless if you suck with the shotty.

[maynard]

restrict cloak and or all shop menu items for the bird.


cloak is glitching and causing 100% invis for the crow.

[ZERO]

I am actually fine with this, a shotgun usually does the trick also if the crow shoots it gives away its position. Races that have freeze abilities can give away the crow location. The crow is already hard to get and those items cost a lot. The next xp transfer and effects are balanced.

[brett friggin favre]

I am actually fine with this, a shotgun usually does the trick also if the crow shoots it gives away its position. Races that have freeze abilities can give away the crow location. The crow is already hard to get and those items cost a lot. The next xp transfer and effects are balanced.

thing is with freeze races, you're firstly assuming that the bird doesnt have a lace, and secondly since it's flying, it really only serves to distract people, thinking the bird is stuck in the freeze.

i don't see the problem in having the cloak work properly. a small bird with a cloak would still be pretty tough to spot, but not pure guesswork when it comes to shooting it.

[Spasm]

No offense Zero, have you even played against this even once? Freeze races... Have you heard of the necklace?

I noticed you mentioned the money...people that are playing this don't buy items while regular, in fact they want to die so they might get the crow. The race comes with shotgun and dualies. They might be spending a little bit of cash on armor and that's even if they buy it. You can save up the money for the items real quick. A cloak can be bought every round and if you don't die soon, you'll have tons of items and your pretty much unstoppable.

No zero, a shotgun doesn't usually do the trick if they bought health or a ring. Good luck with that. I have seen the bird literally be the only one left with 8 players left on the other team and the invis regening 150 hp bird knife every single one of them. Taking maybe 15 damage. You call that balanced?

Even if they don't have a necklace they can't be frozen anyways. It just glitches because it's a flying race. It's imbalanced and a glitch that needs to be fixed, not just looked over because a few brand new people like it. If anything I have noticed that terrible players flock to it, because it literally caters to fail players. What a better thing then a race that rewards the player for sucking.

The ones of us that have been around for a while do not enjoy it, we view it as a glitch that is severely imbalanced.

[maynard]

100% agree....

this race comes with free guns... so cloak costing 3k is kinda pointless as you never have 2 buy guns, you always got money.

all this glitch does is make people want 2 die, so they can exploit the crow now....


I would seriously suggest checking it out before making a final decision as it's a horrible glitch that literally makes people only care about the race so they can die and exploit the crow...

[XX0wnsXY]

This is an exploit and completely unbalanced, imo. The only give away is when the bird shoots and you see the flare..add that to the tiny and hard to hit hitbox...you have yourself an invisi pistol race with 150 hp. Might as well be a flame pred with a pistol...that can fly...and is a midget. You get the point.

[CYBER]

i personally didnt mind the idea at first, but after seeing it in game countless times, sry zero but i have to side with the guys here about it being an exploit.

i have seen it in my own eyes (mostly from "proud" players sending me their demos) of them being a 1 vs full team , and they end up planting the bomb and then shoot off any ppl that try to defuse it from distance, 1 by one, and knife them until either bomb explodes, the whole enemi dies, or the crow dies but the timer on the bomb is too short to defuse.

although the magician used to be a sucky class, just a step stone to get other classes, and was underpowered. and it costs money to buy the cloaks and shit, so i tried to "Exploit it" myself, and i noticed that collecting the money is unbelievably easy and even me, on a 10 year old crappy computer with 10 fps on average and a 20x sensitivity mouse blazing in all directions, i was able to solo 5 ppl and get out with a ~1.95 kdr that game... so i agree with the others that this class is the holy grail for noobs, and i strongly recommend that you try playing against this race when there are 1 or 2 of them on the loose, like when rev.maynard or brett or others jump on it, and then make a decision if u can kill them or not.

i strongly recommmend the claok does partial cloaking only, i personally dnt give a damn about the race, dnt like it whatsoever, and i can endure the pain of trying to kill those crows... but for the sake of the balance, these are my 2 cents.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

yea, it cant stay this way. It is being abused by everyone and there mother. Last night there was like 6 people playing magician on one team.