Future race suggestion thread

[Spasm]

Ranger is supposed to be pretty strong - I was thinking, should something like that be created, it would be around level 600 or so. It is something completely different and I'd say it's roughly as strong as die xonvert. I do agree a little about the the Troll, tho - I should have reread the abilities and nerfed them a bit as the last two are too strong.

I honestly doubt any race will ever be made that counters vaga like that. Vagalion is weak as it is and vagabond isn't in that much better of shape, lace is just too strong. Ice troll is a troll race lawl. Slow attacker and evade in same skill, then a root for 5 seconds on hit, add extremely fast hp regen and ur looking at the new human. Rangers ulti is exteme, its ne bula and die xon together without the cloud, lawl.

[HypeRNT]

Ranger is supposed to be pretty strong - I was thinking, should something like that be created, it would be around level 600 or so. It is something completely different and I'd say it's roughly as strong as die xonvert. I do agree a little about the the Troll, tho - I should have reread the abilities and nerfed them a bit as the last two are too strong.

Its probably best when making a race to leave the percentage/any numbers out of them and just list the skills so that zero can set any value he wants and therefor balancing the race as he sees its needed. I do hope zero will posts or show some sort of recognition towards this topic in general because there is alot of great ideas here and some of these should be in the server once zero has finished making the lost races from the older server. Some skills for some of these races are pretty nice and clever and should be used for a future race no doubt, i hope the right people read thru this thread though.

Maybe even putting like some competition for who can come up with best official race and the one that gets the most votes gets made next? Just a thought tho, kinda like wcs scrim, gets community involved.

[CYBER]

You know how currently athena, shadow hunter, void, and immunity races are meant to be the counter for 90% of the races, specially the restricted ones like vagas and molecule etc?? what about a somewhat BALANCED and dedicated counter-counter?
before you guys flame me for that idea, which i hate myself for it, read the race please?


Rebellion: (the Anti-immunity race, a rebellion to the current reign of laces:P)
6 lebels per skill


-Branding: enemies within 30-80 ft with immunity (or lace) get their skin color changed to light green. This doesnt affect alpha coloring of vagas, raps and nebula when they use their ult (as opposed to Ranger who kills vagas...).
(this helps spotting who has lace and encourages enemy teamwork if they notice their ally turned green, which means enemy is near)


- Recruit: Gain 1-5 hp per second whenever an enemy with immunity (or lace) is within 30-60ft range.


-Black Market: once per round, press +ability to gamble. randomly gain ONE of those 4 effects: gain 10-80hp, get 10-50% long jump speed and levitation(JUST FOR U SIN), get drugged for 20-5 seconds, get slowed down by 20-10% for 20-10 seconds.
(theres a 50 % chance for smthn gd, another for something bad, sounds fair to me, mostly used at round start)


-Vendetta: 10-40% chance that Damage dealt on enemies with immunity (or necklaces) is increased by 35%




-ultimate: cooldown 20 -10 seconds. NOTE THAT IT BYPASSES LACES and only targets THEM, since this race is anti immunity.

Revolution: Enemies with necklaces ONLY within 30-60 ft radius are slapped 5-15 feet in the air ( movement effect and sound and height is equivalent to about 1-6 back to back admin slaps) the ultimate basically disrupts your aim at low level with chance for fall damage at higher levels).

[HypeRNT]

You know how currently athena, shadow hunter, void, and immunity races are meant to be the counter for 90% of the races, specially the restricted ones like vagas and molecule etc?? what about a somewhat BALANCED and dedicated counter-counter?
before you guys flame me for that idea, which i hate myself for it, read the race please?


Rebellion: (the Anti-immunity race, a rebellion to the current reign of laces:P)
6 lebels per skill


-Branding: enemies within 30-80 ft with immunity (or lace) get their skin color changed to light green. This doesnt affect alpha coloring of vagas, raps and nebula when they use their ult (as opposed to Ranger who kills vagas...).
(this helps spotting who has lace and encourages enemy teamwork if they notice their ally turned green, which means enemy is near)


- Recruit: Gain 1-5 hp per second whenever an enemy with immunity (or lace) is within 30-60ft range.


-Black Market: once per round, press +ability to gamble. randomly gain ONE of those 4 effects: gain 15-50 hp, get 10-25% long jump speed (JUST FOR U SIN), get drugged for 60-30seconds, get slowed down by 20-10% for 60-30 seconds.
(theres a 50 % chance for smthn gd, another for something bad, sounds fair to me, mostly used at round start)


-Vendetta: 10-50% chance that Damage dealt on enemies with immunity (or necklaces) is increased by 10-60%




-ultimate: cooldown 20 -10 seconds. NOTE THAT IT BYPASSES LACES and only targets THEM, since this race is anti immunity.

Revolution: Enemies with necklaces ONLY within 30-60 ft radius are slapped 5-15 feet in the air ( movement effect and sound and height is equivalent to about 1-6 back to back admin slaps) the ultimate basically disrupts your aim at low level with chance for fall damage at higher levels).

I like the ult just because it reminds me of war3 mod were blood mage had a passive skill that slapped people high in the air causing them fall dmg, had so many LoL moments from it, but other skills seem odd like black market, doesn't seem enough positives for the negatives, or the hp regen, only when u come close to some1 with a lace? I can see a race like this happening tho, considering how many people buy laces to protect them selfs from invis flying races.

[willster]

Yeah i love the idea of a race meant for countering lace users, also the ult sounds awesome ill say the hp regen isnt that bad, overall this race is good but the black market skill has, i would say more downs then ups for sure. BUT i guess it is gambling... so it's understandable. In all honestly i agree with this. I mean almost everyone buys laces.

[Erdenay]

I honestly doubt any race will ever be made that counters vaga like that. Vagalion is weak as it is and vagabond isn't in that much better of shape, lace is just too strong. Ice troll is a troll race lawl. Slow attacker and evade in same skill, then a root for 5 seconds on hit, add extremely fast hp regen and ur looking at the new human. Rangers ulti is exteme, its ne bula and die xon together without the cloud, lawl.

Fair enough - although my reasoning behind that is that we've been looking for "radar" or "sonar" (or at least some people) and that would be it and especially since it has a very low percentage of actually activating and is restricted for 1 per team (I've just noticed I didn't mention this) that it would not actually be the end of vaga. The point of that ulti is that it ends really fast even when it's maxed (half time of xonvert) so it's not THAT imbalanced.

As far as troll, yes, no argument there - it needs major tweaking down for it to be somewhat balanced.

Its probably best when making a race to leave the percentage/any numbers out of them and just list the skills so that zero can set any value he wants and therefor balancing the race as he sees its needed. I do hope zero will posts or show some sort of recognition towards this topic in general because there is alot of great ideas here and some of these should be in the server once zero has finished making the lost races from the older server. Some skills for some of these races are pretty nice and clever and should be used for a future race no doubt, i hope the right people read thru this thread though.

Maybe even putting like some competition for who can come up with best official race and the one that gets the most votes gets made next? Just a thought tho, kinda like wcs scrim, gets community involved.

I'd actually encourage that too - although I doubt something like that will be done any time soon.

@ Cyber - I like your race for about all the skills except for vendetta, which seems slightly over-powered.

[CYBER]

@ Cyber - I like your race for about all the skills except for vendetta, which seems slightly over-powered.

percentages are a draft.

[brett friggin favre]

i dig the rebellion idea. it'll be tough to see how such a new type of class will function but i would like to see it or something like it someday, even if just for a few days to see how that sort of race can be used. only thing i'd recommend to change really is the increased damage, make it the same for each level, just raise the proc chance.

[CYBER]

nerfed Vendetta. increased Blackmarket positive gain slightly by a few tiny points , just to make the skill worth ppl using it.

[Spasm]

Fair enough - although my reasoning behind that is that we've been looking for "radar" or "sonar" (or at least some people)
.

People that need those skills haven't put enough time into wcs. Anybody that has put any decent time into wcs knows how to counter vagas and usually know where they are too. IF a race comes out with a sonar or whatever, vaga's will be useless. Lace is already crippling enough. On the ranger thing, even if it was half the time of die xon, thats still 4 seconds, i could kill a whole room of people in that time with that ulti. I personally think die xon's ulti is one of the best ultis and I also think nebulas is as well, your suggesting combining them. Nebulas invis last 5 seconds at max, yours is going to last 4 seconds with super speed, lawl.