Future race suggestion thread

[sobobi]

What about a teleport-style race, but not like the beast/human. I'm talking about a race which can teleport the whole team to its location. Like imagine rushing in the T/CT base and then quickly teleporting your team. I'm not sure if teleporting the whole team which at times may have 10 players is possible, but I think its a good idea. You can only use pistols and the abilities are :

Speed : 20-30% more speed
Pistol Menu : Activate with +ability. 10-50% chance to activate this menu at the start of the round. Includes every pistol in the game.
Pistol Rampage : If you make a headshot, you have a 10-30% chance to gain more speed and shoot/reload faster.
With a little help from my friends (ultimate) : Teleport every team member to your location. But it has to have a huge cool-down so it doesn't get spammed.
Max levels : 20

[CYBER]

Grimm Reaper : (Still during rough draft so please provide feedback and i will nerf/buff the race accordingly if i missed smthn)

Race Conditions:
- Five-Seven/Knife ONLY
- Starting Health : 100 (as usual)
- Max health cap = 250hp
- Restricted 1 per team.
- Level requirement: 150
- Restricted items: Health, Ring, Mask, cloak.
- This race loses 1 hp per bullet or left-knife-swing (+attack1 button press) and 10 hp per right-knife-swing. (Knife +attack2)
(This race is designed to make you a better player with good accuracy, so you better not miss!)
- 5 Levels per skill


Abilities:
- LifeForce: Gain 1hp per 3-1 seconds except during "Out of Body" (yes, it overheals).

- Death Scythe: 10-50% chance when KNIFING to deal extra damage equal to your current health.

- Soul Collector: Gain 10% cloak and levitation each time you KILL an enemy with a KNIFE until the end of the round. Max 5 souls (i.e max +50%)

- Out of Body Experience (max 5 usages): Hold +ability to get out of your body in third person free-look view (cant attack, be seen, be targetted or be shot at, Mr SPASM >.<) and navigate (at walking speed) through the map while your body is fixed in place. You lose 2-1 hp every 1-3 seconds though to avoid excessive usage. Release to go back to body.

- Damnation: When KILLED during an out of body experience, 10-30% chance to soul-burn the attacker for 5-20seconds (1 dmg/s)


(Ultimate, no cooldown, but limited by +ability usages)
-Manifestion: Can only be activated during "Out of Body" experience, cut your hp by 75-50% in order to summon yourself where you were pointing at during free-look. It fails if you were to be glitched into the map.

[brett friggin favre]

Grimm Reaper: (Still during rough draft so please provide feedback and i will nerf/buff the race accordingly if i missed smthn)

Race Conditions:
- Max health cap = 250hp
- Restricted 1 per team.
- Level requirement: 250
- Restricted items: Health, Ring, Mask, cloak.
- This race loses 1 hp per bullet or left-knife-swing (+attack1 button press) and 10 hp per right-knife-swing. (Knife +attack2)
(This race is designed to make you a better player with good accuracy, so you better not miss!)
- 5 Levels per skill


Abilities:
- LifeForce: Gain 1hp per 3-1 seconds except during "Out of Body" (yes, it overheals).

-Soul Collector: Gain 10% cloak and levitation each time you KILL an enemy with a KNIFE until the end of the round. Max 5 souls (i.e max +50%)

- Out of Body Experience: Hold +ability to get out of your body in third person free-look view and navigate through the map while your body is fixed in place. (You lose 1 hp every 1-5 seconds though to avoid excessive usage). Release to go back to body.

- Damnation: When KILLED during an out of body experience, 10-30% chance to soul-burn the attacker for 5-20seconds (1 dmg/s)


(Ultimate)
-Manifestion: Can only be activated during "Out of Body" experience, cut your hp by 75-50% in order to summon yourself where you were pointing at during free-look. It fails if you were to be glitched into the map.

seems interesting, the speed of the free look and whether or not you have noclip would need to be discussed though

[Penis シ]

It doesn't have to be noclip, but it seems like that part of the programming would be bulky and difficult. I like the overheal, I like the souls thing. I feel like it needs to be restricted to knives and pistols or just knives. Make it more like a Grim Reaper and have it level to insta-kill with knife. I like everything except how complicated out of body experience sounds.

[CYBER]

It doesn't have to be noclip, but it seems like that part of the programming would be bulky and difficult. I like the overheal, I like the souls thing. I feel like it needs to be restricted to knives and pistols or just knives. Make it more like a Grim Reaper and have it level to insta-kill with knife. I like everything except how complicated out of body experience sounds.

The out of body experience skill is already designed and posted on warcraft-source:
http://warcraft-source.com/board/ind...?topic=12597.0
but this is still close range.

So what im thinking is that when you use +ability, your body gets replaced by a standing bot if u want, and u become a free-look player like spectate view, im thinking half the speed of the noclip speed in demos... and when you release +ability, it would re-spawn you at the exact location as the bot with same health and items u had. or smthn like that....

[Spasm]

Overpowered as shit unless the speed is extremely slow. Even then it still would be a top race, seems like a cheap gimmicky race and would result in mass QQ. Hey I see someone walking above the floor, let me pop up for a split second then knife then through the safety of the floor. Hey let me tell my whole team where everyone is at. So in the end at cyber's idea. 250 HP half the speed of no clip (which is extremely fucking fast) knifing cheap ass race. Nice one cyber way to fucking go.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Overpowered as shit unless the speed is extremely slow. Even then it still would be a top race, seems like a cheap gimmicky race and would result in mass QQ. Hey I see someone walking above the floor, let me pop up for a split second then knife then through the safety of the floor. Hey let me tell my whole team where everyone is at. So in the end at cyber's idea. 250 HP half the speed of no clip (which is extremely fucking fast) knifing cheap ass race. Nice one cyber way to fucking go.

actually, it would be incredibly underpowered, and not worth a level 250 race.

you woulnd't be able to harm things while in the out-of-body, and you don't get 250 hp to start. max level, you'll have that after 160 seconds of just sitting there. and the teleport thing is pretty stupid, because if you wait to get your full health, you're probably going to get killed. it's a gimmickey race, but altogether not that powerful. the only real strong point is that you'd be able toteleport to objectives once the coast was clear, but you'd still land with less health, and take damage for shooting.

[Wolfenstinger]

Incoming Piece by Piece Criticism and thought for Cyber's Grimm Reaper race.

- Restricted items: Health, Ring, Mask, cloak.
- This race loses 1 hp per bullet or left-knife-swing (+attack1 button press) and 10 hp per right-knife-swing. (Knife +attack2)

Ok. To start out - I do like the item restrictions. But putting some thought into this... the second portion of the Eye for an Eye passive ability, will that end up glitching if I were to just put my silencer on my M4 or USP / switching to burst fire with glock or will the system do a check continuously for my knife?

LifeForce: Gain 1hp per 3-1 seconds except during "Out of Body" (yes, it overheals).

Seems good to counter the Eye for an Eye feature, but by the time the player leaves spawn at the start of the round, they should have approximately 101 to 105hp, and at least 105-120 by the time they start finding people to shoot at. If this was dust2 for example. So... maybe slower like Shadow Hunter but give it a slightly bigger boost like 3-5, depending on how long the timer is. Or else people who play it will literally avoid people on purpose until the last minute or so in a round (not saying they still will, but it'll at least slow down their HP bonus gain, forcing them to take cover or actually aim etc.)

Soul Collector: Gain 10% cloak and levitation each time you KILL an enemy with a KNIFE until the end of the round. Max 5 souls (i.e max +50%)

This is more Strider with a cap and a slight buff on it with a cap. I take it you planned to combine this with the Out of Body Experience and Ultimate? I mean it makes sense, just you are more than likely gonna die trying the stunt. Not saying you won't be successful... just you might fall over when all that HP is lost to some hells demon's last strike or thorns from a Night Elf etc. Also - this is more than likely going to be leveled last by anyone when maxing this race.

Out of Body Experience: Hold +ability to get out of your body in third person free-look view and navigate through the map while your body is fixed in place. (You lose 1 hp every 1-5 seconds though to avoid excessive usage). Release to go back to body.

Like brett said, the speed of the third person free-look view needs to be discussed. Personally - it should recreate the player into a spectator player, as in its a physical model that is slowed but invisible as well, also can not be hovered over to see the name tag (because you can't see the audience when you are in the middle of your gunfight, you sure as hell can hear them though >.< )
By physical model, it would need to be slowed + footsteps eliminated. At least then I believe the ability would be controlled a bit better perhaps.

Damnation: When KILLED during an out of body experience, 10-30% chance to soul-burn the attacker for 5-20seconds (1 dmg/s)

Nice to compensate for death at least when using the ability.

(Ultimate)
-Manifestion: Can only be activated during "Out of Body" experience, cut your hp by 75-50% in order to summon yourself where you were pointing at during free-look. It fails if you were to be glitched into the map.

Now - going back to an Out of Body experience... Basically, all you've created is a Nebula that can teleport from wherever he is to really - wherever. Granted, you need to aim still and actually deal some pain into the target or else the passive will kick your ass, but yea. Also, will this be blocked when the player is still using their Out of Body experience? Say for example somebody has a lace and you are in the fancy Out of Body experience right behind them and spamming your ultimate at the ground to get on their ass... is it considered blocked because you aren't a physical player entity or will it be made to where it can be blocked by you're original body AND the Out of Body body.






Overall - interesting race concept. Looked good when I first glanced over it...but I was too busy raping people with vagalion to care :P
Also that ultimate, it needs some scary ass notification when it's activated near people.... sound wise. This sound at least will notify players that the Grimm Reaper is in range of them and they should either be cautious or look the fuck behind them because he is right there. Or it'll scare them shitless... just like a tele-knife...

[What]

It does look damn interesting but I share most of the pragmatic concerns of the others as far as how this can get OP pretty quick. Also, it has a shit ton of moving parts and looks like it would take some serious R&D to get it working properly and even then I can imagine a lot of glitch issues with it.

[brett friggin favre]

obviously when you're noclipping you wouldn't have a weapon, that would be far too OP. otherwise you'd never leave and lose a bunch of hp by teleporting