Future race suggestion thread

[CYBER]

It doesn't have to be noclip, but it seems like that part of the programming would be bulky and difficult. I like the overheal, I like the souls thing. I feel like it needs to be restricted to knives and pistols or just knives. Make it more like a Grim Reaper and have it level to insta-kill with knife. I like everything except how complicated out of body experience sounds.

The out of body experience skill is already designed and posted on warcraft-source:
http://warcraft-source.com/board/ind...?topic=12597.0
but this is still close range.

So what im thinking is that when you use +ability, your body gets replaced by a standing bot if u want, and u become a free-look player like spectate view, im thinking half the speed of the noclip speed in demos... and when you release +ability, it would re-spawn you at the exact location as the bot with same health and items u had. or smthn like that....

[Spasm]

Overpowered as shit unless the speed is extremely slow. Even then it still would be a top race, seems like a cheap gimmicky race and would result in mass QQ. Hey I see someone walking above the floor, let me pop up for a split second then knife then through the safety of the floor. Hey let me tell my whole team where everyone is at. So in the end at cyber's idea. 250 HP half the speed of no clip (which is extremely fucking fast) knifing cheap ass race. Nice one cyber way to fucking go.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Overpowered as shit unless the speed is extremely slow. Even then it still would be a top race, seems like a cheap gimmicky race and would result in mass QQ. Hey I see someone walking above the floor, let me pop up for a split second then knife then through the safety of the floor. Hey let me tell my whole team where everyone is at. So in the end at cyber's idea. 250 HP half the speed of no clip (which is extremely fucking fast) knifing cheap ass race. Nice one cyber way to fucking go.

actually, it would be incredibly underpowered, and not worth a level 250 race.

you woulnd't be able to harm things while in the out-of-body, and you don't get 250 hp to start. max level, you'll have that after 160 seconds of just sitting there. and the teleport thing is pretty stupid, because if you wait to get your full health, you're probably going to get killed. it's a gimmickey race, but altogether not that powerful. the only real strong point is that you'd be able toteleport to objectives once the coast was clear, but you'd still land with less health, and take damage for shooting.

[CYBER]

Between spasm and aco and wolf's posts, im confused now as to whether to ner the idea or buff. Here's smthn about the out of body.
I see people bitching about the noclip speed. That wasnt my original intention. At first, the out of body experience i thought off was something like an invisible bird who cant do any damage or get damaged to its invisible ghost form that can fly around AT ARCHMAGE SPEED AT MOST and does NOT go through walls.

The noclip part was the fuckup in my replied post. Basically u'd navigate as an invisible archmage and have to walk through doors properly to see anything inside house and so that u can teleport there.

It will require finess and good movements and swiftness bcos u're loosing hp if u travel too far and take forever to navigate... So if u hear someone on floor above u, u'd have to walk up the stairs invis, cut ur hp by half and tp there... Now how is that op?

Heck, even IF the race can go through walls, at immensely slow spped (less than archmage flight), they cant go too far with the skill... Why do u think i gave it a damage timer???

Another idea foe out body experience was to originally have the person simply toggle first and third view person. Allowing him to ROTATE around his body and see around corners at best with a freelook chase cam (this is already done on warcraftsourcr btw), but then I's have to change the ulti to smthn else and buff its other skills...

[Spasm]

My bad I read it wrong, as I thought out of body was a true no clip not just looking around. One thing to consider though, your going to have a harder time catching walls, team chat will make it alot harder.

[CYBER]

My bad I read it wrong, as I thought out of body was a true no clip not just looking around. One thing to consider though, your going to have a harder time catching walls, team chat will make it alot harder.

yeah. When u 'noclip' around the map at slow speed, u cannot shoot or get shot at. Its just to view shit like corners and cade spots at the cost of hp...

As for walls and esp... True, but thats the same as if the player DIED, checked spectate and respawned knowing where they are, telling his teammates or going for the kill alone.. The out of body is almost exactly as if u died in place as a statue, checked spec but VEEEERY SLOWLY at cost of hp, and someone respawned u. And now u know where they are. We'll treat it the same as before...but this time u KNOW he INTENTIONALLY scouted locations, and wasnt a random event

And this race is partly the reason why asked zero if it was possible to dump the playerinfos in console so we can know if the team had a reaper that called out locations...
and im sure he can make team chat appear in demos too... Heck. Spectate and dead chat appears...

[Erdenay]

I've been contemplating on this race for a while and I'm STILL unsure... I like the concept, but I do feel like this race is too powerful, so I'd say restrict some items (such as boots, socks) and restrict this race to pistols/knife only.