Pos 8 12/29/11 02:19 STEAM_0:0:7954627

[Penis シ]

Name in Game: Pos 8
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:7954627
Where: Gungame
Link to ban: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans...steamid&Submit DEMO ATTACHED
Reason for perma ban: Walls

Demo is attached, first solid evidence in first second kill, tick 27000, from vent, shoots at guy that he can't see before he comes into view, all the time aiming straight at him. Turns hacks off before I come to room, so only plausible evidence for first 10 minutes after.

[XX0wnsXY]

I watched the demo for quite some time. There were maybe one or two spots that he seemed to be pointing in the direction of the enemy before they appear, but there were many more times that he was still and appeared clueless that the enemy was approaching. I think in all, he just seems like a noob and annoying at times if nothing else, who got some lucky shots.

[Spasm]

voted no, it is a lucky shot, but, coconut sees the CT coming down the ramp and picks him up on a radar for pos 8. Pos 8 never really aims right on the ct, he does however know he is coming from coconut picking him up on radar, which is what clued him in.

[Penis シ]

I respect the method, but from the vent, when you're speccing, you can see through the top, but when you're the player, your view is skewed, there is NO way he saw exactly where that guy was, radar or not, he had him dialed in.

[Spasm]

I respect the method, but from the vent, when you're speccing, you can see through the top, but when you're the player, your view is skewed, there is NO way he saw exactly where that guy was, radar or not, he had him dialed in.

I am a huge skeptic when it comes to walls, another upper or clan will have to add their input. I don't think that one instance is enough for walls and I really didn't see much in the rest of the demo neither. I have been overruled before on walls because I am such a skeptic, we will have to see.

[CYBER]

Spasm i havent seen the demo yet since i dnt have access to my pc for 2 days ( on cell now)...But i just wanted to point out that the radar has been fucked for over a week now.Normally, New players, or even idiot players usually dont even look at the radar... It took me a whole year before i had enough attention to look auickly at radar every now and then and back to the center of my screen..That said, IF the guy is a decent player that knows his radar, then i am sure he would have given up on the radar considering how buggy it has been this week... For all u know the radar could have been malfunctioning at the time so he couldnt have picked the guy up on it...So i just wanted to point out that relying on radar THIS week is not smthn players are doing on faith...He COULD have been on radar the way it was described in the posts, but i wouldnt personally take the 'he saw it on radar' as a 'flawless' argument this week.Thats all, if the thread is not closed by 2 days, i will watch the demo and provide more accurate insight from an idiot's perspective lol xD

[Spasm]

Spasm i havent seen the demo yet since i dnt have access to my pc for 2 days ( on cell now)...But i just wanted to point out that the radar has been fucked for over a week now.Normally, New players, or even idiot players usually dont even look at the radar... It took me a whole year before i had enough attention to look auickly at radar every now and then and back to the center of my screen..That said, IF the guy is a decent player that knows his radar, then i am sure he would have given up on the radar considering how buggy it has been this week... For all u know the radar could have been malfunctioning at the time so he couldnt have picked the guy up on it...So i just wanted to point out that relying on radar THIS week is not smthn players are doing on faith...He COULD have been on radar the way it was described in the posts, but i wouldnt personally take the 'he saw it on radar' as a 'flawless' argument this week.Thats all, if the thread is not closed by 2 days, i will watch the demo and provide more accurate insight from an idiot's perspective lol xD

he has 2700 hrs cs time according to steam.

[CYBER]

oh well. i will check the demo later tonight bro all that i said above was based on many "IFs" .

Btw, while u;re here, can you quickly take a look at my new speedhacker? it's and open and shut case watson

[SCRIBBLE]

There is not enough evidence on this one to warrant a permaban for walls. Like owns said, I only saw one or two spots that were sketchy but he looks like he is unfamiliar to the map more so than anything. Unbanned, closed. Find more evidence if you truly think he is.