Arch_angel | 3/15/2012 | steam_0:0:16915946

[carbon]

Name in Game: ARCH_ANGEL
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:16915946
Where: gungame
Link to sourcebans: no ban was issued
Reason to perma ban: wallhacks

This one's a tough call, but after going over this demo a few times I think there's sufficient evidence of wallhacks here.

Player joins at the beginning of the match. His first few kills look pretty suspicious but can be justified by the shadows and sound. The first action that threw up a flag for me comes at 4.7k when the player appears to be looking directly at enemy players through the boxes (it's quick but he does it). He does this a number of times throughout the match, including points at 6.9k, 9.2k 17.5k, 18k, 20k and 23.5k. He also has quite a few suspicious kills, including a kill spree from 10k to 12k, a kill at 15k, and the most solid evidence of all comes at 18k where he comes upon a player that was not only walking (no sound), but completely out of sight from arch angel until he rounds the corner to knife him. IMO he chose to knife the player because he knew (from walling) that the enemy was equipped with an awp. I go spec at 25k and the player chooses to leave (while in the lead) two deaths later at 29k.

I went back to ban Angel after debating whether or not to post this and he was no longer on the "ban disconnected" list. Hence the lack of a ban.

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[CYBER]

You can webban the guy from sourcebans for a month if you are confident he walls. But for the sake of adguement , since the walls were skeptical , then it would probably be a benefit if he didnt het banned yet, until we view this shit. And if he plays, he'll just give us more demos to compare. I will check this hopefully as soon as i come home.

[Joker]

very clear wallhacks start at tick 5,000 - 10,000 you don't have to go any further then that, but it's all the way through the demo as well.

[CYBER]

walls. and i saw some tugging in some of his early shots, but regardless. when u said tough call, my testicles dropped a bit lol... i expected smthn wayyyyyyyy more annoying to look at lol...
ticks 5000, 17000 is dead on trace across map, and tick 18k (the silent awper around corner) are sufficient for me (along with a shitload of other questionable tick marks that i cant remember off hand...) (i watched the demo at the library and wrote down these 3 ticks only to post later.)
gd work.

also: i strongly recommend u ban the guy for a month and post a link to the sourceban in ur initial thread. the guy already caught ur attention, the attention of another admin, and a ULA (urs truely), so it's pretty safe to say that banning the guy until the votes are done is probably ur best move now.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

LLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLLL 0 wallhacks, i dont even see how he could even be considered a hacker. I highly suggest re watching the demos with r_drawothermodels 2 on and slowing down to 15% for each kill. He has a fast reaction time to people coming around corners, its also normal for people who are familiar with a map to pre fire high traffic corners.

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walls. and i saw some tugging in some of his early shots, but regardless. when u said tough call, my testicles dropped a bit lol... i expected smthn wayyyyyyyy more annoying to look at lol...
ticks 5000, 17000 is dead on trace across map, and tick 18k (the silent awper around corner) are sufficient for me (along with a shitload of other questionable tick marks that i cant remember off hand...) (i watched the demo at the library and wrote down these 3 ticks only to post later.)
gd work.

also: i strongly recommend u ban the guy for a month and post a link to the sourceban in ur initial thread. the guy already caught ur attention, the attention of another admin, and a ULA (urs truely), so it's pretty safe to say that banning the guy until the votes are done is probably ur best move now.

lol cyber.. tick 17000 is them spawning.. That Knife kill on the awper, that is a high traffic area he even hesitates before proceeding to knife as he was unsure if there was an enemy there.

Again, no hacks at all. Inconclusive.


Note: It helps save some innocent people from being perma banned... like they have latley, to watch a demo expecting to laugh at the person who posted it. This way you do not go into the demo with some pre conceived notion that they person you are watching is in deed hacking. Let the posted proof change your mind about them being innocent.

[CYBER]

By tick 17 k i was referring to that moment when the guy just got out of spawn, and was standing kn left ct-mid, looking at towards right-mid, at 2 terorists, and tracing them while staying completely open and vulnerable lol... And what reaction time are u talking about?
There were cases were a guy would litterally walk in front of him and he would have the reaction time of a turtle smoking weed just because he couldnt tell if the guy is viewable in real life or just on his walls...
For the awp thing, notice how he was running about with his weap, sees a guy with sniper rifle, pulls out a knife and MOVES MORE TO THE LEFT before going around the corner because the guy was walking towards the open corner near him and wanted to stay hidden.
Im one of the most ninja stalking knifers on deagle and 1 thing i tell u for sure is that if u expect to go around the corner and possiy encounter a guy and knife them, u dnt go to the wayy first the around the corner in a 90degree swivel.
The knifing rotation is too big, and u're not even sure if a guy was there, u're getting urself exposed from 3 open hallways by SLOWLY TRACING A WALL which u're not sure what's behind.
Also, for the record, that specific spot is not a high traffic knifing area, it might see a few knives bcos deagle is pro knofing, but that spot is too open for a random knife and unpredictable.
Im still by my opinion that the guy only went for the knife he knows the guy is there and has a 1-shot gun and so he traced the wall side just before jumping directly at him.
That and a shitload of other very questionable tick marks.
Lol. I'll leave this to the other ULAs... That is all.

[Penis シ]

No hax.

The closest round to saying anything was round 1. Two lucky and anticipated shots there. Para was the only thing, but there's no reason to hesitate with 100 bullets.

Your tick 17000 which is really more like 17500 is crap. His teammate sees him running by and gives chase with a knife, he prefires the corner because the guy is on radar. Easy.

Before that maybe? Chases the dude down with p90? Simple reasoning, the guy took a step right and strafed left, it was to get around the boxes to avoid getting shot at more, not hard to tell where the guy would be after he gets out.

The knifing the awper took a second look, I decided it's an accidental trace. He had been rounding off the corners whenever he steps around one all map, his instincts served him right when a guy was there. It backfired on him plenty of times later and earlier in the map at that corner (like when he had the mac10, got lucky, then had the tmp and got mowed down with the m4).

I was questioning why he chased out of that spot one later round when a guy had the corner and he backed in, then I realized that guy had been there almost EVERY round. Plus he had a shotgun, so that'd be dumb to leave long corridors for your kills. Got him messed up in the end anyway.

[XX0wnsXY]

Im going to vote no on this one.

Reason being..that I watched the demo and Deagle is just one of those maps that everyone pre-fires every corner. The map is so tight and predictable that everything this guy did can be chalked up to sound and radar..and a little pretense.

No hacks IMO.

[brett friggin favre]

nothing i havent seen on myself. at 5k, you're talking about shooting through the box? when 2 teammates are shooting at that guy? radar.

17k is nothing (if you're talking about the "trace," he just happened to be looking at the right spot. again, i've seen that on myself quite a few times), 18k on the awper, as penis said, had me scratching my head. even if that's as questionable as it seems without penis' explanation (which makes sense), it's one tick on deagle5 which as owns said, doesn't mean shit. keep an eye on him, sure. but i wouldn't ban from this for sure.

[CYBER]

Well i saw what i saw when i reviewed this at the library earlier and write down a few ticks as i mentionned.I'll rewarch the demo as soon as im back monday from toronto (business meeting) regardless of whether this thread was closes yet or not, since i dnt have access to a pc again. That said, im still keeping my eye on him, for me that shit was too dumb to begin with, im wondering why no one saw what i saw lol. Nways, its up for spasm or steamr.