deLiGHT <3, 5/3/12, 5:40 pm EDT, STEAM_0:0:26279260

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The first demo has a few spots I deem conclusive however before I make my final decision I am going to review it again to ensure what I saw wasn't an engine error or something similar. This is a great example of someone who knows how to hide it well as if the player knew he may be under scrutiny.

I will have the opportunity to review both again on my lunch break today. My vote will be cast then.

edit: reviewed both again. hacks. willing to explain in private, not posting detailed description to avoid swaying others into a vote.

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scribbs. just make sure u update ur private details AFTER votes are made, just for documentation purposes, so that we can learn his habits, if he hacks.

im sorry im not of any use recently, im temporary working 12+ hours shifts and 3 courses (that im thinking of skimming...)

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scribbs. just make sure u update ur private details AFTER votes are made, just for documentation purposes, so that we can learn his habits, if he hacks.

That was the plan.

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spasm is the more <strike>experienced</strike> (lol), make that skeptical one about walls. i was hoping he handles it because its a delicate ban with split ULA votes and he would favor the inconclusive in hopes of a better demo, than banning uncertainly a possible innocent player (not that there's anything innocent about the guy...)...

but if this thread is not voted on by nightfall (sounds poetic right?), then i'll assess it myself with my own experience and private detailed work.
and im told to be a douchebag with thesis paper posts :P just saying

[acolyte_to_jippity]

spasm is the more <strike>experienced</strike> (lol), make that skeptical one about walls. i was hoping he handles it because its a delicate ban with split ULA votes and he would favor the inconclusive in hopes of a better demo, than banning uncertainly a possible innocent player (not that there's anything innocent about the guy...)...

but if this thread is not voted on by nightfall (sounds poetic right?), then i'll assess it myself with my own experience and private detailed work.
and im told to be a douchebag with thesis paper posts :P just saying

for the record, zero doesn't have the strikethrough html enabled here.

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for the record, zero doesn't have the strikethrough html enabled here.

No shit Sherlock!...

[brett friggin favre]

for the record, zero doesn't have the strikethrough html enabled here.

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Demo 1:

32k i seee nthn

42 k , u're both right and wrong. i agree with owns that the guy reloaded his p90 1000 tick marks earlier, and that delight heard it, but it still doesnt justify him going there and tracing the pit. the guy could have left by now, and more importantly: HE COMPLETELY OMITTED TO CHECK HIS RIGHT MOST CORNER , at the tunnel intersection, where many ppl camp... if he is the safe player why not check there and just the pit?

53k that was beyond fishy...it is not conclusive for a ban, but he changed his behaviour based on someone hiding secretly behind the wall... and he stopped rushing and camped it out, and then instead of walking in the tunnel, he WASTES his ultimate on teleporting in the tunnel and immediately turning to where the "hidden guy was standing"? come on... not 100% conclusive imo, but definitely a characteristic of a wallhacker to change playing behaviour that way.

ths tick mark was not mentionned : tick 62k : i had to watch that many times in a row... it is almost IMPOSSIBLE for delight to see brett walking through the double doors and spray him through the walls. i had to repeat that 4 times to make sure, while paying attention to THAT corner only (smthn u wouldnt do in game ) and reduce the speed to a maximum of 54% for delight to BARELY see the SHADOW of brett's walking foot... could have been mistaken for a grenade too or object... i personally would have perma baned him just for being TOO focused here ( yeah , i said it... he shouldnt be able to see that foot , at all), but since its a very annoying ban... lets move along.

tick 77k i dnt like it, he quietly goes behind the guy and its fishy too, not to mention that delight did not cover his right corner .... (AGAIN)... however, at ticks 42k, 62k and now 77k, he has done the exact sam thing, whethere there was or wasnt a guy in the pit... so it could be just his usual "routine" to strafe that way and check the common pit...



demo 2 didnt give me much to work with....

7000? am i missing something here? i dont find this tick sketchy at all. if we wondering why the guy was going one way and then moved back to the kitchen window where a guy was camping,. then it's explained very simply: an idiot enemy teleported to that hidden guy, delight probably heard his teleport to his left, and decided to surprise him at the door, but he wouldnt know there were 2 ppl there until he saw a spidey going out of there... which leaves it that there might still be the human who teleported there...

tick 23k: i disagree with owns on this one, i find it VERY fishy. you see, for a guy that acts a little "too precautious" like he did to that hidden guy in dem1 tick 55k and so forth, i find it VERY fishy that the guy is willing to leave himself open for a shot across the hallway, through the window, while camping some random corner to his right?... why camp that corner unless waiting for the guy to make a move? not to mention that he paused his crosshair on the hidden guy once, which could be accidental... if i was in delight's place, i would be worried about ppl in the hall and appartment balcony... not willingly get close to the window and be a target from 3 directions... i call bs on this one.

25k, surely after, he jumps out of the window and goes to the main hallway, where (in wireframe) you can see a guy crouched in the underground tunnel...)... delight completely ignores to watch his back, the T entrance AND the entrance to the bombsite... just in favor of "following" an invisible enemy through the tunnel??...

44k, this time, i agree with owns, the tick is very fishy for trace. he litterally traces the guy's head through the boxes, pauses with him and then traces back...
but it could be just luck and some motion prediction... but still... facing the boxes when an enemy is the bombside? instead of strafing right into the open and help the teammate?... sure ok.

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as for my final decision, im still torn. there is too much bs that i categorised under "luck"... my gut tells me he hacks like never before, but im still reviewing the ticks more and more to see if they are warrant of a perma or not... im not sure, YET.

i honestly think that this final decision should be left for spasm.
the only reason im leaving this for him, is because delight is already at 1-1 on the ULA votes. if spasm, who is the better one of us, finds it conclusive, he can put an end to it with his YES. if i vote NO now, i would be denying the better ULA to make a better decision simply because i am still torn.
worse comes to worst, he gets unbanned by spasm, and then brett and i will scout the ends of the earth to find conclusive demos of him. and i do my best to always catch my guy.

[FAil Boat]

Since yall are on the fence I figured I'd take a look. Most of the ticks I thought were definitely not hacks. Merely coincidental if anything. Especially 44000 anyone could trace that lol.

Not hacks IMO. Just my opinion. :3

[brett friggin favre]

Im down with that and thanks for the insight cyber. I just find the fishy spos I see combined with his disregard of where people arent, even though they usually are, plus the two vac bans...its just too much for my liking