032 Vagalion [320] v1.0.1

[Masskid]

and i agree with aco about powering up the silence mode on vagalion, considering that vagalion has no scout like vagabond , and with the increased lace distance this would compensate things, making it more interesting to be focused in game, necklace or not. like old times

i have no problem with laces.... you sir need more practice

[CYBER]

i have no problem with laces.... you sir need more practice

i dnt have that much of an issue with laces either (unless like 5 people with laces are walking 10 feet apart lol...) but all i said is that it would be more challenging.
as much as i want to be faithful for the old server shit, i dont actually mind brett's idea, seems interesting. Perhaps "flickering shadows" would become something like "Silent shadows" where, like brett said, vagalion starts with a very annoying sound like vagabond and no flickering visibility. and the more u level it, the more quiet it becomes with same flickering effect as vaga.

The reason why i dont mind it is because flickering is almost useless for vagabond if u're gd at it, and it is usually the LAST skill you level. Adding the "quiet" mode on it to vagalion might make people sacrifice blade points or smthn to make it more quiet and stealthy.
i like it as long as it keeps its current flicker shit, but i dnt mind staying true to old vaga..



ZERO, vagalion SHOULD be able to tele-knife in mid teleport without waiting for the knife to be fully retractable, just like the old server, please keep it as is, just like vagabond is now at least.

[ZERO]

Wait so does that mean that Vagabon was not able to use any weapon when invisable? I know one of the races worked like this but if it was not Vagalion what was it?

[Masskid]

Wait so does that mean that Vagabon was not able to use any weapon when invisable? I know one of the races worked like this but if it was not Vagalion what was it?

yes, vagabond didnt have a weapon while cloaked but vagalion did... that was the reason they balanced :\

[CYBER]

Vagalion should be able to knife people while teleportig AND while cloaked. Vagabond is good as is now. What balances the race is that vagalion has unbelievable crit blade.
What takes a vagabond 2 hits to kill ( with possibility of getting stuck with a lace after first hit) might take vagalion just one hit and move along without getting stuck. Its a test of skill and aim. Both should be able to knife while tele-ing.

If you REALLY wanna be nit-picky with the balance, vagaBOND could go as it did for a little while and have a 0.5 second delay on pulling the knife out when it teleports, makin it still able to knife when invis if needed but gets slowed down with the delay on short distance, forcing it to use the scout more, unlike vagalion being the knifing beast with NO DELAY, invis teleknifing, and possible glitch if spammed ulti, so that people learn to master the race properly.

[Masskid]

If you REALLY wanna be nit-picky with the balance, vagaBOND could go as it did for a little while and have a 0.5 second delay on pulling the knife out when it teleports, makin it still able to knife when invis if needed but gets slowed down with the delay on short distance, forcing it to use the scout more

this, from what wolf has told me this is the correct way vagabond should be set....

also i know vagalion is supose to have less levitation but it seems abit... heavy...

[CYBER]

this, from what wolf has told me this is the correct way vagabond should be set....

also i know vagalion is supose to have less levitation but it seems abit... heavy...

wasnt it the same levitation as vagabond? i may have misread the numbers...
well it should be i guess,, specially since its a knifing race, being required to teleport DOWN to knife ppl more often that vagabond who can teleport long distances or higher grounds and perch-scout ppl.
also i hope that the race gets released saturday night i have nothing to do that day