Computer GEEKS to the rescue!

[CYBER]

Hey guys, After talking with rezel and starsmine yesterday about computers and shit, it has come to my attention that I can no longer play CSS on my fucking laptop... lol

so by the end of next month, im planning on buying a new computer. I already have a 32" 720pi screen at home and I am trying to find a way to play
counter strike source at fucking 300 max fps... or smthn...
and have a gaming rig able to play the next gen games like skyrim, battlefield, etc on very high quality or high...

Do I go with this ?
Rig 1:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16883229344
Or settle for Rig 2;
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16883229341
or something i just barely looked at Rig 3:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16883229342


I personally think Rig 1 has highest potential? advantages and disadvantages of the rigs? what do u think? what is important to upgrade and what can be downgraded for similar performance?

[ZERO]

You do realize that trying to play a fast game like cs on a tv screen will lag right...

I have tested with a 40" screen and the additional vision does help in targeting although 1080 on a screen that size at that distance looks like shit. TV screens are designed to be viewed from 2.5 times their size away. So the ideal viewing location for quality of a 30" tv is 6.25ft away.

Here is a great pic I found to explain things:

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You need a higher resolution to play games effectively on that screen to take advantage of the extra size. Otherwise you will lose detail and that can get you killed.

Here is another chart showing recommend seating:

[CYBER]

well currently i have my screen directly on my desktop table, about 3-4 feet away from my eyes.
It works gd, but you're right, ONLY in wcs, it starts lagging and making cringing sounds sometimes, when i teleport as vagabond fast or old spidey zips.

I also seem to lose some framerate...
but thats the best I have for now, assuming I dont buy another computer monitor with the desktop pc.

So if i got a better monitor, would the first rig be gd enough to run maxx css quality? or do i need more or less?

[ZERO]

ISF states the the most important aspects of picture quality are (in order): 1) contrast ratio, 2) color saturation, 3) color accuracy, 4) resolution.

For gaming here is what is the most important parts of the monitor in order:

1. No or low input lag (will not be indicated on the product in order to scam you)
2. Fast responsetime (will be overindicated on the product and usually causes #1 to be bad used to confuse customers into not asking about #1)
3. Picture Quality

Input lag is described as the lag between the output from a graphics card and the image which is displayed on the screen you are using. For LCD screens this should not be confused with pixel response time which describes the speed at which a pixel can change from one orientation to another. Pixel response times impact aspects such as motion blur and ghosting in moving images. On the other hand input lag is a delay between what is sent to the monitor, and what you actually see. This can have impacts particularly in gaming where if the screen is lagging at all, it can have adverse affects on first person shooter games and the likes where every millisecond counts.

Your fist key will be to locate monitors that have no input lag and go from there. Most monitors advertized for gaming or speed have input lag of >20ms that is like adding 20 ping to your game but worse b/c the server does not preform any lag compensation for you monitor being a POS.

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Oh I should mention that there is no such thing as a LCD without input lag. In fact in order to find input lag you usually stick an lcd next to a crt and measure how much longer it takes for the image to display.

THis thread should help provide a good list:
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php...tabase.145141/

[Assassin]

Bad Cyber. *bap on the nose* Never buy those over priced shitty premades. Buy the materials yourself and just put it together. If you're thinking well I'm not a comp guy...you don't have to be. Most barebones kits come with the mobo alrdy attached. You simply put things in there right slots and hook up the power cords and the mobo cords and that's it. I could prolly piece together one of those comps in like 20 mins, so for you if you aren't as savy..maybe 30 lol. Also what Zero said about your gaming monitor. Make sure you get a LED as there times are faster than LCDs.

~Edit Also make sure your rig has a dedicated video card...cannot stress that enough. Most laptops don't come with em and as such are using your ram to run the video processing.

[CYBER]

Bad Cyber. *bap on the nose* Never buy those over priced shitty premades. Buy the materials yourself and just put it together. If you're thinking well I'm not a comp guy...you don't have to be. Most barebones kits come with the mobo alrdy attached. You simply put things in there right slots and hook up the power cords and the mobo cords and that's it. I could prolly piece together one of those comps in like 20 mins, so for you if you aren't as savy..maybe 30 lol. Also what Zero said about your gaming monitor. Make sure you get a LED as there times are faster than LCDs.

~Edit Also make sure your rig has a dedicated video card...cannot stress that enough. Most laptops don't come with em and as such are using your ram to run the video processing.

i am gonna put it together myself >_< i AM techsavy in general, im a software engineer for fucks sake. I just have a bad time making decision when buying expensive shit...
im asking about the BUILD itself, if it's sturdy, hence why i asked what could be replaced, upgraded , downgraded for gr8 performance, because im going to order the parts myself and build it using this guide as startoff

[Dj panda]

Tbh all those rigs look Meh, my gaming laptop almost matches all of those, only thing better is that mine has 2.35 ghz-3.1 ghz if i overdrive it(which im not going to do since no need) my laptop costed the same as rig #1, if your putting 1500 ish into it id at least get your moneys worth

[CYBER]

in that case... can someone direct me to the best pre-made rig for that budget? or list the components if they have it themselves and getting good performance?
obviously with PCs or components able to be shipped to canada:P
anyone?
whats your detailed rig shit and price?

[Carmichal]

You should build it your self. Save lots of money that goes into making it better than a pre-made one. If you don't know how find a friend who can and has a messy house. Clean there house in trade for building the PC.

[CYBER]

You should build it your self. Save lots of money that goes into making it better than a pre-made one. If you don't know how find a friend who can and has a messy house. Clean there house in trade for building the PC.

oh dnt wry, i am planning on building it myself.
the problem about me (one of many lol, dnt get too excited there carmichal) its that I sometimes overkill something.
i dont want to start wanting high end expensive shit that would do similar performance than a lesser-end component.

every time i gp for a "build it yourself" page, i just start spamming "oohh i want that" "oh ofcourse i need that"...
and i always end up with 3 times my budget lol..
so im looking for a COMPLETE BUILD, that is 100% compatible, no problems or heating or noise etc,
that i can use to order its pieces 1 by 1 and build it myself.