Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
Masskid: I group things into "offensive, defensive, support". Of the three, ambushing would be defensive, or support, but I'd go with defensive.



I have enough background in stats to know that you're right. I don't have enough to explain what it says though. Your statement about raps vs raps should have been a clue.

As for having no defensive skills, first, the ulti is. Second, the combinations of skills leads to it being a defensive class.



So is Mr. "I have an awp". It's also strategy required. Back knives are what you're supposed to be trying for. I'm also pretty sure this race would be much better in a server without other 100% invis races.

Hyper... Do you actually play the server? I mean really? Spasm? He's mr. murder everyone as a Human. Also, believe it or not, when you're good at a race, but don't want to play a race, you don't play it. So, yes, you're probably right about Cyber. I fall into the same category.

As for your comparison of Raps vs Flame... And what does FP do? How often do they NOT have to stab the same enemy at least as often as Raps? Sure, they can weapon drop, this helps. They can burn, and this helps against knifers or vagas. The proc of raps kills people. The ultimate of Raps helps to lure or evade enemies. The ultimate of Flame helps if they've got an enemy without a necklace nearby, and have died. I will admit Flame has the upper hand in the health department.

BTW: a few comments. A: We have one more race to release before we worry about actual balance changes, or something close to that... Plans within plans and all that. B: These belong in a future balance thread, or even just in Raps thread, not in a derailed thread. C: Given how flawed your "logic" is, your opinions leave something to be desired. D: I flame you, because honestly, you're not a likeable person. You can't take a hint. You like to insult people. I assume you actually like the server and are trying to help it, but the people here, myself included, have rather large egos. Look through some of my posts. I will fight like you're fighting, for similarly unliked positions. I respect what you seem to be trying to do, I just don't respect your position.

"I sometimes feel like some of the people in here get offended if some1 disagrees or says something about the server, no matter how minor it is."

Usually, yes.

Kudos and welcome to Ibis,

~Blackmage

Edit: I'll get to meat when I get back.
First, that is your opinion it isn't *logic*, my logic isn't flawed its pretty freaking obvious to anyone who isn't on your nut sack. second that is the biggest joke of a post ever, you really think of comparing flame pred with rap as it even being close? You actually made me laugh out loud, flame pred not only procs often, has amazing invisibility, and an ult that drops people even if they fail to get the kill, this of course not counting setting people on fire=insta death or dropping their weapons=insta deadx2 or being able to have 190 hp. You also consider raps ult to be something thats great? or this so called defensive ability? Wut? HIS ULT SHOWS THRU WALLS, HE CANT MOVE its not like u walk past a freaking rap that went invis in front of your face. OBV if he goes invis at his freaking spwn at the start of the round he wont be seen, as would any other race invis or not.

Now as to your comments about me, you flame me because you feel it is your right to always correct people and give your opinion as its the law or something, which is wrong. I have not been to this PARTICULAR server for as long as you, yes no one is debating that, but i have my fair share of wcs experience from css or 1.6 aswell. Im not a likable person? says who? you and your *Home boys*? why the fuck would i give a shit on who likes me on a forum trololol, i have absolutely 0 problems in the server when im playing and have plenty of people on my friends list wcs admins included, so once again your OPINION is just YOUR OPINION and lets keep it at that.


And as to meatspins comment, i do understand were you are coming from. There is so much crazy flying crap now in the server that i feel like we need some crazy huge maps or play crazy indoors maps to prevent yourself from being owned spwn to spwn or having to defuse the bomb 5-10 seconds into the round(cable)(dolls)(dust)(DE_crackhouse) and other maps, i almost feel like some of the flying races shouldn't be able to plant the bomb just from the amount of distance they get to cover. But at the same time, it is a wcs server, custom races and older races pick your poison, some would say variety is good, but i guess it all depends on how much of it can you take.