Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
Flame pred has an ult that suffers from the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS RAPS DOES (lace kills it, only works when they are close) plus is necessitates dying, and can't be used for more than one thing. It has decent invis, as does Raps, just different. Both are easy for some people to see, hard for others. Setting people on fire = about nothing. If you die to it, grats. Weapon drop can FUBAR people who have auto-weapon switch on pickup, I admit. However, guess what? You still get shot or knifed by many enemies. Again, if this is auto death for you, L2P. This ability is also useless on other knife races, something that can't be said about raps. Raps ability doesn't proc as often, correct, but 1 hits most things(including a FP with health). 190vs150 is actually not as powerful as 100 vs 140. 140 is 3 right clicks, 100 is 2. 190 is 3 or 4, 150 is 3. All 4 are 1 back-knife. Against guns, the 40 extra HP is about 2 bullets, or less, and 150vs190 matters in few situations against gun races.
I do have to disagree with you a little bit here - flame pred's invisibity is the best in the server barring the completely invisible AND it can't be dispelled by flashlight. While I don't really agree with Hyper that it's useless, raps is definitely worse off than flame predator. Setting an enemy is actually an extremely useful skill - it slows down the enemy (which is the best part about) and it also somewhat kills the vision, so that you can jump high after that and go down and kill the victim. Dropping the gun is also a pretty useful skill, although not quite as good as flames. I do agree with you about the ulti somewhat - it's not really that good and I barely ever kill people with it.

Now, for raps - flickering shadows are nearly useless and while they do give an advantage, it's extremely minor. The crit barely ever works, so it's not that useful and the ultimate is... Eh at best. It does have a better levitation than flame pred, so that's a plus for raps. As far my comparison:

Raps crit < setting a person on fire
Flickering shadows < invisibility
raps levitation and speed > flame pred's levitation and speed (barely)
invisibility = nova (although I do like nova more as ulti for flame pred than invisibility for raps)

For me, flame pred definitely edges out rapscalion by quite a bit.

Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
And you not knowing or caring about how to use the ultimate really isn't any of my concern anymore. It is useful, if you use it correctly.
It is somewhat useful, yes, but can you compare to most of other ultimates around?

Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
FYI was going by this statement, not my actually knowledge of Cyber on Raps : This On Wolf, I'd just have to wait to see what he said. I've not personally seen Brett play it (well) that I know of, hence not adding him. But mostly, it's why I said "I don't pay attention to many players who play a variety of races, I just know people who are good at the game." I'll also mention, once more, that KDR means jack, and is by NO means a way to tell if a race or player is doing well. Also, amount of levels doesn't mean "better". It can mean a number of things, including "knows how the server works". It also has to do with when it was added. Zero might remember, some other people (Maynard) might know.
Fair enough about that.

As far as jack's KDR goes... I'm fairly certain you'll see it go up once more people will max it and whore it. Yes, kdr is not everything... But it definitely has some truth in it and raps is a fair example.

High amounts of level = a lot of xp = juicy target. Thus people tend to concentrate and look for you (I've seen it quite a bit), thus your life is even harder.

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Quote Originally Posted by CYBER View Post
I can see tom for example playing athena, BM, night elf, rAp etc because he doesnt play agressive. He plays smart and laid back, which is why he is almost always last to survive, whereas im 90% dead within the first 1.5 minutes, but i'd have taken down at least 3-4 enemies with me...

If you dont likethe race, dnt play it, rap is not the best race sure, i find it underpowered for MY gamestyle, but others might be better...
Actually, really depends on a race I play - I play super aggressive with santa, molecule, spider, flame pred, normally jack too. If I'm playing a defencive/support class, then yes, I normally play very conservatively. And night elf? lol. Raps is better of being aggresive with health, cloak, lace then defencive, to be fair...