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I didnt attack the server if it sounded like that im sorry i just tried to point flaw and give sugetions... But i really disgree when someone says that they r balanced when only 3 races can counter them and they can if u see them if u dont u r dead. but the thing that annoys me is that with their ulti they get to u in seconds and u dont even hear footsteps i rather play against a race thats always 100% invisible but i can hear them than against a vaga -.-

Not quite as well as with scout, but you can still no scope pretty well. People already complain (including you) about vaga's power - now imagine a vagabond with an AWP who would 1 hit everyone 90% of the time? Yeah, not exactly something that we need at all. AWP would add no new dimensions to the server - it would not give anything at all except more people complaining about how this is bad, that is bad, etc.

Vagas are retricted to scout/knife or only knife even if awp wasnt restricted they couldnt buy it :P. And i think i would prefer a vaga with an awp but without their ulti than a vaga as they r now...

There's more than one way to approach that balance - and I think IBIS has done quite well with those regards. As of now, there are no game breaking races or skills and you can counter anything with more than one race, strategy or item. Some of it requires skill, yes, but vagabonds are not even the main nuisances in the server... Those would be jacks and humans.

I dont have problem with those... the only thing i dont like is the "new" bash that mess up ur aim -.-

Why? What's the point of those races having higher limits? What exactly would that bring to the table?

That would be changing the whole point and the dynamics of the races - and I definitely don't see that happening. Barring few maps (such as port), vaga's are not OP at all - you just have to be smart about them. Don't just stand in open places - lure them into smaller places, use flashlight, buy a lace - and barring few exceptionally good vagabonds/vagalion, you will have no problems killing most of them.

If you think this spiderman is bad... You should have seen it before the nerf - it could get to the enemy spawn in most maps in 5 seconds. It has been nerfed plenty and it's fine as it is. If you would increase the cooldown for either of those 2 races, it would be game breaking - they would lose their one main advantage and they'd no longer even be good races.

The problem is their mobility is alot higher than most of the other races if u dont want to nerf them atleast buff the others... they Already have high speed, low grav, invisiblity, stun, flickering why they need an ultimate that makes them go "around the world" in 3 seconds...
Someone that knows how to bhop just need speed and low grav to go "around the world" in 5 secs why would they need more?

However, as far as your proposed changes for "balance," I honestly don't see any of them happening.

Well i made a list with some but after reading ur post i deleted the ones about changing vagas and spider ulti but i still thing that their mobility is to high..


Tell me what u think about them:

Add the window that u get with blood mage telling u that u revived someone to other races that can ress instead of just text(So u can easily see it and do need to look at the chat).

Races that can revive ppl could get a small amount of xp when ppl revived by them get kills. This would make ppl level their ress skills first to help their team win the round.

Knife and head shot kill could give a xp bonus.

Drecrease the number of items u can buy to 1. Races should be good because their skill set is good not because u have good items.

Get a bonus exp if u plant/defuse/save hosties (teammates around u also get the bonus).

If the code that makes u unable to go past the maxed skill levels is hard to change u could add something like this, if u win a around with a maxed race and didnt die u would get like 100xp added to a bank then u could add it to anyother race u have.

If i remember anything else ill add more.