WCS autobalance tweek?

[CYBER]

Hey @Zero,
Currently the autobalance (when there's 2+ number of players difference in teams) randomly selects a player from the excess team to the other team.
This is currently causing a lot of issues in wcs though, because it seems to also pick people on restricted races, throwing them into the other team where someone has a restricted race too, making you lose your race and forced to switch off. Leaving the excess team with a chance to steal the race from you.

1- Can you make it so that the autobalance selects players NOT on restricted races for the autobalance first? if anything, it should randomly select a player to be switched, check if he would retain his race after the switch (ideally non restricted race, or if the race limit didnt get exceeded on target team), and then switch them. If it were to kick them off, randomly select another guy? If all are restricted, fuck 'em, switch nway:P

is that possible? please? i dont see why a player who got on a race first on a team, gets randomly kicked off it with autoswitch bcos the other team players are leaving ... it already happened to me 5 times last few days...

2- Any chance we could get a ruling on whether or not the player can keep dibs on a restricted race after switched by autobalance?
I was asked to rule such scenario where the fucking vagalion got switched and the player couldnt get back to his team for like 5 rounds bcos of the balance...
So i made an exceptional ruling of switching the player back with a random guy and let him keep the race until someone can confirm who gets to keep the race. ideally this problem would be bypassed with the "checker" up top...

thanks.

[Erdenay]

Just something I've noticed - almost every time, it's not a random selection from the opposing team: it's the player with the lowest score that is moved.

[HypeRNT]

or a simple 30 second fix would be to limit players by selecting AUTO-SELECT team only and therefor would always have balanced teams and when needed admins can switch players for what ever reason(if playing with friends) hence removing any problems of not having balanced teams.

[Pit_Viper1]

or a simple 30 second fix would be to limit players by selecting AUTO-SELECT team only and therefor would always have balanced teams and when needed admins can switch players for what ever reason(if playing with friends) hence removing any problems of not having balanced teams.

This^

I've been saying for a while that auto-assign needs to be the only option on the wcs server. There are far too many people who will ONLY play on one team and too many maps that will have people waiting in spec to join a specific team.

[CYBER]

Tom.its not always the lowest score because i was team leading as vaga in one of those instances, it was a good balance in general because the teams got even but inlost my race for a while until the other guy got bored and switched off...As for hyper, ur comment reminded me of smthn. There was a a feature on a counter strik server i played in that basically checks how many wins in a ROW a team got. If a team got more than 4 wins in a row, without the other team winning once , it would basically scramble the teams (while keeping them on their race limits), it made it interesting bcos sometimes u're a T and sometimes ct and needed to change strategies and tactics with partners against enemies iff the team was OP as fuck for 4 wins in a row. ( for us it would me like 7 wins maybe, this gives u enough chances to try to counter the races and play smart, and at least win once! If STILL cant win a single time after 7 times, it scrambles u. 4 wins can very easily be comeback or interrupted with a win. 7 means shit hit the fan. Thoughts?

[maynard]

yes, you keep the race if this happens. get back 2 your proper team, ask an admin for help if needed and take your race back.

or a simple 30 second fix would be to limit players by selecting AUTO-SELECT team only

Fuck no. that's beyond a retarded idea... cause one, people like playing certain sides depending on the map... and 2.... even if you could only select auto select... you will still end up the majority of the time with 1 team doing far better... meaning... people will still qq the teams aren't fair.

[ZERO]

It should be possible to implement some sort of check for the races. However I would need to actually create from scratch an auto balance program that then uses this information. Currently it just uses the valve default plugin.

[brett friggin favre]

Another thing about enforcing auto assign only is that it just causes more complications along the same lines of this post: restricted races. You're vaga, and you got autoassigned to the same team as the other vaga from last map. That would be the biggest fucking headache ever cuz with the two vagas now it would be happening, according to probability, every map.can you imagine the bitchery?

Op's idea is a good one, and I'm glad to see that it may be feasible.

[CYBER]

It should be possible to implement some sort of check for the races. However I would need to actually create from scratch an auto balance program that then uses this informaiton. Currently it just uses the valve default plugin.

Thanks,
Steven

am i the only one laughing his ass off that zero:
1- signed his post????
2- WITH HIS REAL NAME?
lol.
that is all.

[Spasm]

I saw that as well cyber, i think he mighta been drunk