WCS autobalance tweek?

[HypeRNT]

Nobody should be free to play vaga as long as they want? Fuck you asshole, i live in America, this server's in our capital, our players can play whatever they wanna play. We're not fucking socialists here, not yet anyway, they don't have to share shit. If you have a sweet ass car, guess what, that car's yours as long as you want it and you don't have to share it. If you're on vaga, shit's yours. Quit bitching about the rule, nobody's gonna change it just cuz some joe blow is butthurt since he can't play vaga.

And asking admins to change your team is exactly the headache I'm talking about. Nobody wants to deal with that every fucking round. You're also assuming:

1. The player asking to be switched actually was vaga last map.
2. The player who has taken over vaga on the other team will just give it up
3. There is an admin on who knows what he's doing
4. The admin also is willing to waste a round or 2 straightening everything out

Not going to happen. Oh and don't forget your helmet when you leave the house today, it's a dangerous world out there for downsies.

Speaking of joe blow, first of all... what the fuck rofl? America? wut? Never said you cant play vaga as long as you want, but the rule that dictates once u have it you should have it forever no matter when you connect or what you do is stupid as fuck.If you connect to the server and its not taken, grab it and enjoy it as long as u want because no1 will tell u shit about it. But when you have vaga one map, join the server 4 mintues later on round 3 and ask for your race back thats fucking the stupidest shit ever. Sure if not for this rule guy with fastest connection would get it? well isnt that why we playing pc's and not consoles? better equipment usually has some sort of advantage? whats next you are going to tell me to play on lower resolution cuz i can see you too easily and you don't have as good as graphics card? That's the definition of America, first come first serve.

1. Once again read... If he had vaga last map and came late to the team were some1 else has vaga, then its his responsibility to get to the team he needs for his restricted class.
2. The player who took vaga on that team doesn't have to give it up if he got there first, like i said this is the current rule on the server.
3. There isnt many times that admins arent on the server or on for some1 to PM.
4. Why would he waste a round or 2? You swap some1 and you swap some1 else back ive seen this done plenty of times and it was done when players were usually dead and at the start of the map, hence not changing the outcome of the map.

Pointless post.


And to blackmage, you are correct, went a little of topic, after i saw cyber looking for a new method that wouldn't be hard to implement, my apology

[CYBER]

You have people who join the server 2 rounds in asking for their race, you have people who join spec and come back asking for their race like we owe them something...

If they were waiting on the server to load , itshouldnt take more than the first 2 rounds at MOST (and i have a fucking crappy loading screen...) so they should be able to keep their race.

As for the second part? WRONG.
if they change race once, or change teams, or move to spec WILLINGLY (even to fucking take a piss), they lose the right to the race.
That INCLUDES if you were afk for 1 minute and got booted to spec by the afk manager. If you cant hold on to it willingly, you cant claim it.

HOWEVER, if u got crashed by the server or the game (BECAUSE of wcs) or booted from the gamebecause someone joined with reserve slot (and came back within a couple minutes MAX), or if the autobalance shit happened, or you accidentally joined the same team as the other vaga at round 1 and are waiting to switch teams to claim it, then you can claim it as long as you TRY to do it as fast as possible.

you cant play 4-5 rounds and then go like "u know what? i was vaga before, joined wrong team, wanna play it now, so someone on other team get off..." . it doesnt work like that. its too late.


its all just common sense and courtesy, the only problems i see most of the time is dealing with trolls, assholes, pigheaded, or idiot people. I have yet to see anyone with common sense fight with someone else like him over this shit... we always settle. But unfortunately... idiots roam among the ibis regulars...



@ZERO, now back to my original idea, i hope you can do that shit zero, if you want i can create the algorithm for you, and all you'd need to do is replace it with the proper variables/language from valve?

[maynard]

retarded idea? its not an idea rofl its done in practically every server in every game so keep "retard" word to a minimum please.

how the fuck is that not an idea? an idea is a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action... which is what you did... hence it being an idea... are you really that stupid?

As for bretts post, This vaga race problem is because of the rule that makes no sense in any galaxy.

sure it does, you clearly just don't get it lol

[Blackmage]

I also have a comment on Brett's "4. The admin also is willing to waste a round or 2 straightening everything out"

In recent weeks, I've had to make ruling based largely upon hearsay. Is there any way we can easily see who was on a restricted race recently? As we have 2 restricted to 2 races, and 4 restricted to 1, and may have more coming, it would be useful to be able to find this information. Even without worrying about map changes where we have some time to look before it happens, on map crashes, unless it's someone doing stellar, we can be largely on the honour system.

[Dj panda]

Black, the easy way to do it is to check raceinfo near end of each map, and see who is on what, or if you have been paying attention to who is playing what in the game, you will know which person is playing what race.

[CYBER]

Black, the easy way to do it is to check raceinfo near end of each map, and see who is on what, or if you have been paying attention to who is playing what in the game, you will know which person is playing what race.

dnt know about "race info" u probably mean playerinfo, but anyway
Black, think about it for a second, the most bitching would always be from vagas. IF anything, it would be molecule, then rap then flame preds (hardly)...

when u play in game, im sure u can remember who's the vagas fucking u up ? 4 vagas, 2 molecule. thats at most what u need to worry about because the others hardly ever occur.

[Blackmage]

Check the race info of currently 6 races? Usually will only be a few of them but still, end of round, if you're alive, or need to buy tomes (saved money for a scroll, or periapt of health), you might be busy, or only have time to check one or two. If they've gone to spec, bought tomes, and rejoined, they can show up as being on that team too. As for watching people, beyond the needing to be noticed, the problem comes when they change races a few rounds prior, either onto, or off of, they can be missed. Had one where someone switched off for the last round, someone had gone on, played it for the last round. Then the first tried to get it back next map. Wasn't a problem because it had been noticed, but it easily could have been. But again, the big problem is map crashes, where if you weren't watching for limited races, it's easy to miss them.

Edit: Cyber: actually, FP more often than anything, excluding Lion for the moment, due to everyone trying to get on to level it. As for noticing the Vagas, I only really notice them if they are any good. Sometimes they stop doing anything useful, and I figure they just changed races. Molly can be even less noticeable, you usually have to be in combat with them, or have someone whining, but I digress.

[ZERO]

On a note about restrections as stated in an old post I do plan to start making large edits to War3 after updating it after reprograming all the races. This is a bit dangerous b/c it basically puts us on our own for support but I feel that we will be able to patch a lot of bugs and get more features though extensive source code edits. One such example could be to the restrection system where as I could possible program it to keep track of all of this and activly enforce the policies by default. It may be possible to do this with a seporate plugin (this would be ideal) but in theory it is possible to actually program the mod to actually enforce the restrection policy automatically.