Vegas Upper window

[HypeRNT]

Yes, but you're not shooting players THROUGH the floor, you still have to peek over the edge of the balcony right? As Blackmail mentioned, there are over half a dozen classes that have the capability to get from the door way to there. If you're falling for them camping there round, after round, after round, that's you're fault... There are other paths to take, as well as the option to fly up there (or near there with a vaga) and check it for your team. Plus how often do we play vegas anyway...?

It really shouldn't matter how many times the map is played or who is camping round after round, the point is you are exploiting a piece of the map that was not meant to be used that way which is illegal/glitching and therefor should not be allowed, pretty simple.

Just because you cant shoot through there should not mean its ok. If a person with wallhacks came in and said, well i wasn't shooting thru the wall, even tho i can see every1 i ran up to them with a huge advantage knowing were they are at without them knowing were im at...

You can peak,then shoot, and it will be the same shit because you have an advantage that the other player does not, which is illegal exploit, this is pretty simple of a glitch.

[Akoiah]

I never understood why the area above the cs_italy tunnel is not against the rules. Obviously the person camping up there can see through the ceiling, but the players below cannot see up through the roof. I realize the rule is, if you can see them it is fair game. But the person up top ALWAYS takes cover and reloads behind the invisible roof, allowing them to safely reload and keep an eye on the players below, which i'm pretty sure is against the rules since you cannot go anywhere where people cannot see you. Anyone want to clear this up for me? I've seen admins do it.

edit: just read the link blackmage posted. is that really the rule? i've had multiple different admins tell me you cannot hide where other people cannot see you

[CYBER]

I never understood why the area above the cs_italy tunnel is not against the rules. Obviously the person camping up there can see through the ceiling, but the players below cannot see up through the roof. I realize the rule is, if you can see them it is fair game. But the person up top ALWAYS takes cover and reloads behind the invisible roof, allowing them to safely reload and keep an eye on the players below, which i'm pretty sure is against the rules since you cannot go anywhere where people cannot see you. Anyone want to clear this up for me? I've seen admins do it.

i do it every now and then.
not against the rules.

[Akoiah]

"Going under the map, or to any place that allows you to see the enemy, but grants them 0 vision of you is not permitted unless you're passing through the area to get some where else."

~maynard

found this

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:22 PM ----------

People are definitely not "passing through". Definitely camping up there until they see someone

[HypeRNT]

"Going under the map, or to any place that allows you to see the enemy, but grants them 0 vision of you is not permitted unless you're passing through the area to get some where else."

~maynard

found this

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:22 PM ----------

People are definitely not "passing through". Definitely camping up there until they see someone

Yeah thats the problem, maybe i wouldn't have a problem with it if these kind of spots were limited to races that are made for skyboxing like hell hunter, making this race even more wanted to be played for this very reason.

[blackmail242]

I would just like to have you re-read Blackmages post, specifically this link http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...071#post107071 . This is what maynard has decreed further into the rules. I understand that its not on the front page however people you should take about an hour and scroll through the thread and find these posts in there especially since most of the topics we are going over have been asked in that thread and have not been made front page material >.>

[meatspin]

I know when i play chess, I like to use a secret move that nobody knows where I place my queen outside of the board behind the opponent's back row. If they end up moving their queen, their king is toast. But, of course, it is fair since all they have to do is not move their queen, right?

It's just like when an enemy team is using some of the many powerful races on the server (which is always). I know then that there are about 30 or so races that would be disadvantageous to use. It really is a great rule set with all of this strategic variety. Also, it is the reason I play here so often.