Prison Break Wars (Mafia)

[CYBER]

FIXED VOTE COUNT. DAY ONE STILL IN EFFECT>>> RESUME TALKING.



sorry about that... i dont usually have split names in my votes... counted old bastard twice in the previous picture... and i wrote irish instead of lily by typo.
so we agree that the system works, but cyber is fucked up

Sorry about that. mod errors happens. good job being vigilant mikey and blackmage and all. wont happen again

[Erdenay]

Seems too many useless people who are just going to follow vote without thinking for themselves. Oh well. GG.

It *IS* IBIS, so not really sure what you expected. Furthermore, most people are new and basically are unwilling to risk whatever they have, so they play super safe instead of saying something. As soon some of the actives will be killed of during the night the game will die down even more probably. I'm already unpleasantly surprised how this is progressing where people almost mindlessly hammered without even HEARING a claim. What's even funnier just how quick that bandwagon unfolded.

At this point, I'm actually probably even more interested in people who quickly bandwagoned without providing any good reasoning and just piled on the votes without seemingly following the game.

[CYBER]

OK. I have been asked about the metagaming in this thread based on the possibility of mods making errors.
i.e "should we question mod errors? or is there possibility of hidden triggers and agendas that arent visible for the players (like double voters, no voters, and other bastard roles).


The only thing i can say about this is that i promised a fairly simple game.
And this game is supposed to be more of an "educational" type.


SOOOO,
if a "mistake" like this ever happens, like i posted before, you DO reserve the right to say "Cyber i think u fucked up".

Then i will come, take a look, and if there's a mistake i will fix, and if there isn't a mistake, i will say that there isn't a mistake.
and if there's something i do not want to disclose, i will simply say " no everything is fine, carry on".

So please, ask away. I'm your friendly neighbourhood mod trying to keep things simple, but with crooked eyes apparently.

[Blackmage]

Even without what cyber mentioned, we learned something about the setup with the voting. We knew 7 non-double voters, 4 players who don't hammer if they don't have a vote, and 3 players who aren't forced to hammer and irish isn't a self hammer. The mod error, as Cyber mentioned, actually told us that we most likely had NO 0-voters or double voters. For anyone asking why day 1 lynch can tell you, well, there you go.

Then, we can look at the voting of people in general. What made a dangerous play by voting the 7th vote. I made a dangerous play letting it get to 7 before unvoting. Mikey didn't force the lynch even though he was on.

[Old Bastard]

OH... FFS.
old bastard i fucking hate ur split name...

I love you too, Cyber.

[What]

I didn't see it as too risky, I knew we would be at 7, and Cyber has said repeatedly, that this is a basic setup for beginners, there was no chance there was a quick hammer or self hammer in play, especially a self hammer on a new player like that.(Also the reason there is no fucking way he can't say anything due to his role, plus he had the chance to say something and he just confirmed twice) If there was, well then we would know Cyber would have been lying this whole time and we do have a role maddness thing going on. Also, a quick hammer is good to know about as soon as possible so that mistakes don't happen later in the game, especially if it gets to a point where the scum have comparable numbers to the town.

Also, if someone popped in to be the hammer vote real quick, especially someone who hasn't said much, that would be a pretty good indicator right there that they were scum. Any unvotes would also tell me if people were commited to killing irish, or just working to get a claim or info.

In the end though, I am willing to gamble with the life of the guy who has brought nothing to the table so far if it means it can help gather information.

I'm off to work, check back in tonight.

[brett friggin favre]

Cyber was pretty quick with that hammer vote, very suspicious of him...

[Wolfenstinger]

Wolf, have anything of use to say either? Any vote or general thoughts on NL?

Just having a chance to read the thread after getting home from school. Last final done; summer class starting next week. Anywho ; no rush with lynching irishrush, but at the same time its a group census russian roulette, where we just pick somebody out who either isn't contributing enough, contributes oddly, don't want him here, has a funny name, etc.

Stupid reasons for a day 1 lynch, but I imagine they become more and more reasonable as the Day 1 Lynchings continue. Also off a group lynching like we're seeing; even though we're using reasonable "Let's get rid of this guy" outcome, can always take a gander at who voted as well as the ones sitting back watching the lynching taking place.

Irishrushian still has 48hrs to speak up. In the mean time, I'm fine with sitting back until tomorrow evening the latest. My prediction at the moment is that we get Day 1 over with by Wednesday night, night actions go in and we see the scene Thursday Afternoon - Evening depending on how fast the actions get in and how fast Cyber writes his story.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

me hesitation continues on voteing irish. when his profile dosnt say his last online time was Yesterday @ 10:54 PM ill reconsider. I dont like how fast everyone jumped the bandwagon on nem.

[phil.™]

I too feel a lynch on day 1 is not necessary. Under what presumption are we lynching Irish? Because of his inactivity, solely off his inactivity? Let's keep in mind if he is a college student, it is final/paper due week for many college students so inactivity may be reasonable. Let's just wait till day 2, as we could by lynching off a key role player.