Supernatural Mafia

[acolyte_to_jippity]

For some odd reason, the only people I do not fear being mafia is Mikey, sin and nem. Am I on a completely different page than anyone else?

Thats fine. u have ur modding. i have mine.
For me it was a clever move for those who were actually PAYING ATTENTION in the thread instead of just skimming and ranting.

Issue resolved as far as i know as this was my very first attempt to test the waters with a new game mechanic that seemed fair ground, got the warning though and i will respect your decision and let it go till the end of the game where i can happily discuss this.

i'm going to assume those text strings you put in your post were encrypted in some way. most likely using a keyword from elsewhere in the thread.

lets see...within that post alone you have...

Jesus; Signature;Gost; Ghost; Highly ; Base;Snake; Changed
JSGGHBSC (or JSGHBSC)

meh. i could probably figure out what was going on if i cared enough. if all communication was within the thread, who gives a fuck? so cyber knows some crypto. woohoo.

[Blackmage]

Well, my dad's kidnapping me tomorrow afternoon as well. Today was fun, but this has taken me almost 4 hours to write, and I know I'm saying the same thing multiple times. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know.

For some odd reason, the only people I do not fear being mafia is Mikey, sin and nem. Am I on a completely different page than anyone else?

Phil doesn't trust himself. Noted and stored.

Scribble, would you care to expound upon your post? Do you find anyone more or less scummy?

Too much of my distrust is due to, as Cyber put it, people not doing anything "radical". I include Scribble, Blade, Aco, Kion and Locust here. I also don't trust Cyber, but I'm 99% sure I'm getting the wrong signals, which I'm fairly sure is tainting my review. None of this is anything but lack of knowledge distrust rather than scum distrust, however.

However, I still don't trust Nem isn't scum. Some of Nem's comments have rubbed me the wrong way after the claim, but a healer claim is always something to be careful around. However, if he is mafia jailer, it means that Cas is probably a full doc and not just a faith healer. In any case, we want Nem to NOT hit our Cop today.

Still on the fence about Sin, but in any case, he's a known entity. One night, the cop can investigate him, and may have already.

I trust Phil, just not his judgement. Actually, I'm not sure why after I think about it.

Pass and OB, I'm tentatively trusting them. Still trying to learn their play styles.

Mikey... Isn't as offputting as normal... This shouldn't be suspicious... Of course Nem played the nice SK...

With Scribble's posting, I think it's safe to say, our roles came up with nothing useful last night. As such, we need to avoid policy lynching anyone. We've wasted one day on a policy, and got nothing night 1, plus we've already killed off a replacement information gatherer. The more dead, the less targets the scum have in order to get the cop. Unless we think we can assure a night search that hits scum, and the cop's survival, we don't want to risk a second policy.

As a note for our cop, if he's new. Try to make sure we can figure out who you have investigated before you died, but try to be subtle about it so you don't reveal yourself too early. Just because you only found a townie doesn't mean we shouldn't know in the case you die at night. However, if you HAVEN'T done this yet, I've probably made you job harder, which I apologize for. Also, in general, if you're being lynched, just post a summary of your action list, regardless of your role. Information is key, even if it costs. It also sometimes can save your life

Given people's lists of who they trust and don't trust, I'm afraid that the aforementioned "divide and conquer after all, with just enough confusion" was successful. We need to come to some consensus, and act. Currently, the thing we seem to have the strongest opinions on is Nem, so let's try to figure out a plan. He's as out in the open as can be. For those who trust him currently, was it his claim, or something else that has made you trust him? For those who don't, do you think it would be safe to let him act tonight, and if so, what do we do?

My opinion on the topic. Forcing the cop to clear him would be dangerous. If Nem gets Framed or killed, we lose a cop action. If the cop gets Roleblocked or killed, we're in the same situation as today, just probably down one or more players. There's also the problem that his role is possible for both sides, which means he could claim his true role and just lie about the alignment. It is also useless for protecting the cop, and can't be used to cross protect either. We can just use it as a roleblocker, but that requires either trusting Nem's judgement on scum hunting, or believing we know scum, but are unwilling to lynch them.

The role can be powerful, with some limitations. For it to be used usefully, we have to trust Nem's judgement. However, lynching him requires believing there's a high chance he is scum, or believing we can figure out the scum from votes and night actions. With some of us avoiding even soft claiming and most avoiding full claiming we probably won't get information except by pressing hard. We have a number of people who are close to silent, and not all of them can be scum, so Nem is currently my vote, but he's not getting my official vote yet.

As for what just happened, I'm going to suggest making a new thread for it when we're done with this game, because it probably would be good to have it archived separately from a game.

[SCRIBBLE]

Everyone is just posting speculative nonsense. Either no one received any useful info last night, those that did have a reason to withhold it, or they are newer and afraid of giving too much info about themselves.. There are a few that seem to be trying to run people in different directions and they may have helpful info but they need to figure out a better way to convey it to the rest of us.

[Blackmage]

...Well that's embarrassing...Carry on...

[Passarelli]

Cyber, I'm pretty sure what you did tops what I did. I hadn't actually looked at the rules when I broke them which is a sin of ignorance.

Did you ask anyone about their roles in your secret code which you needed to go to a different website to read? Because if so, that would be a sin of intent for the same shit you called me out on.

I ASK EVERYONE TO NOT TALK TO ANYONE outside of this thread about your/their roles.

I would greatly appreciate having what was said put into public record, as I can no longer even look for said coded messages since your "signature drink" is missing.


I'm pretty sure Locust has nothing else to say, noone has offered any alternatives (besides Nem whom I trust enough now to let him go until he is investigated) and as such the tentative respite is almost over. Cyber gave you an extention. I'm still going to hold my vote till morning, as I see passing secret messages during the day as awfully scummy. If what was said doesn't shed any new light on anything and doesn't appear overtly scummy I will be voting for Locust.

If the secret message crap isn't posted--I don't care if you are a Hunter and shoot me, I'll be voting for you Cyber. Or if what you said IS overtly scummy, I definitely still be voting for you.

AoJ, the problem is it wasn't all within the thread. It would be one thing if all of the information someone needed was within the thread (common cyphers could easily have been used). The problem is he hard a 3rd party site that you had to use to read it. But again, that can be argued later. The problem is, those that got to read it now have more information then is available to anyone else and those that haven't can no longer find it.

[Sin]

The fuck just happened? Cyber you trying to get messages out to your mafioso brethren?!

Imma go play some Wildstar. Someone shed some light on this message and share it with all of us pls.

[Old Bastard]

Just saying under my suspicion he had it in his signature but got caught up on it, with that being said though what I am interpreting is, the scum is getting narrowed down to. We know Sin, possibly Nem, I know Cyber I think(have no reason not to trust him so far), and a couple of people know me. So with that being said, how about all you others? Got a claim or something you would like to share? Or we just got lynch a random out of you all?

Suspect List:
Locust
Aco
Phil
Scribble
Blade

The rest so far have left with no reason atm to suspect them as scum. What do ya'll think, at least the first few people I named at top including me. I'm leaning towards Locust as he still hasnt said much.

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I also am pretty sure I know who Cyber is, but I think he rather not keep it in the open. But granted I'm not entirely sure.

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And btw for anyone that has a suspicion on Nem, he is doing the same thing he did last game, sitting back to see what we can do before he jumps in. He was town-aligned then. I think if Nem wasn't town aligned he would be posting a lot less often or posting all the time.

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Nem, I know you dislike me and I dislike you but care to add some input? Maybe get the ball rolling in a scum's direction?

[Nemesis]

For now we should be careful of lynching the quiet people because, while a good strat for mafia, it's also good idea for the doc.

The cyber thing is all fucked but I missed the signature thing so I'm a little in the dark but we've seen cyber drunk and he doesn't usually go all valley girl (omg I'm so drunk!) so we can say that everything he did there was done deliberately. That isn't something that should be taken lightly. Not saying he's scum, but also shouldn't be let off easily.

Also, why would I hate you?

[Old Bastard]

Just for the sheer fact that we haven't gotten along ever. Now I'm gonna go as far as saying the first statement you said is of little worry to anyone as I know who the doc is, could be me or a few other people and I will leave it at that, but I know who it is. It's damn sure not any of the people I named off as suspects.

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But I do agree on our doc laying low and that is what they are doing. I will tell you if you try to lynch them if they choose not to speak up, till the last second.

[Nemesis]

Just for the sheer fact that we haven't gotten along ever. Now I'm gonna go as far as saying the first statement you said is of little worry to anyone as I know who the doc is, could be me or a few other people and I will leave it at that, but I know who it is. It's damn sure not any of the people I named off as suspects.

I would say you don't. There's a few ways would could have come up with that so lets go through them.

Easiest way is its you, which I doubt you're dumb enough to call it out.
Second way is through investigation and you get told the role instead of just alignment. It's very rare but not impossible.
Third is something you read into, which could be wrong for a multitude of reasons.


So don't tell me who it is, but can you tell me how you know?