Reasons not to use a shotgun during a zombie invasion

[walterbrunswick]

Well the topic was "Reasons not to use a shotgun during a zombie invasion"

So.

Discus...

I think this whole thread was a troll.

There is no reason not to use the infamous 12-gauge pump-action shotgun that we've all come to love through our conquests in L4D.

It's a perfectly suitable weapon at close-quarter combat against zombie hordes.

It has the power of a fully-swung baseball bat, and can knock anyone's head off with a single blast.

So I ask you, what is the point of this discussion?

[Christmas]

I think this whole thread was a troll.

There is no reason not to use the infamous 12-gauge pump-action shotgun that we've all come to love through our conquests in L4D.

It's a perfectly suitable weapon at close-quarter combat against zombie hordes.

It has the power of a fully-swung baseball bat, and can knock anyone's head off with a single blast.

So I ask you, what is the point of this discussion?

Because it has been pointed out that shotguns are difficult to reload, take up a lot of space, and aren't the most effective weapon in defeating a zombie?

Hmmm?

[Breezy]

Because it has been pointed out that shotguns are difficult to reload, take up a lot of space, and aren't the most effective weapon in defeating a zombie?

Hmmm?

I go skeet shooting, at least once a month, shotguns are easy to reload if you know how to. Also, when you're reloading any other weapon and a zombie is in you're face, it's practically impossible to line up, wwith a shut gun, you shove the barrel in his mouth use you're body weight to load one more shell, cock, and pull the trigger.

[Christmas]

I go skeet shooting, at least once a month, shotguns are easy to reload if you know how to. Also, when you're reloading any other weapon and a zombie is in you're face, it's practically impossible to line up, wwith a shut gun, you shove the barrel in his mouth use you're body weight to load one more shell, cock, and pull the trigger.

I meant difficulty as in comparison to a magazine. And it is much easier to load a single magazine than 8 rounds. This is forgetting about how you can be mobile and hold a sufficient amount of shotgun ammunition.

And the act of shoving the barrel in the face of a zombie is easy in a controlled environment, but we are talking about panic situation. Especially when there is the possibility of more than one zombie bearing down on you.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I go skeet shooting, at least once a month, shotguns are easy to reload if you know how to. Also, when you're reloading any other weapon and a zombie is in you're face, it's practically impossible to line up, wwith a shut gun, you shove the barrel in his mouth use you're body weight to load one more shell, cock, and pull the trigger.

so what you are saying is that you have first hand experience killing zombies?

The difference between skeet shooting and zombie fleeing is that when you skeet shoot.. nothing is trying to kill you.
it wouldnt be about the power of the weapon, it would be more about its efficiency. That is why having a side arm and a 8lb assault rifle would be ideal. If you can aim like you say you can, under pressure with a chance of losing your life, why the fuck would you want a shotgun? All a shotgun is doing is putting you closer to the target, which in this scenario would be stupid.. why put your self in any more danger then you need to be.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

so what you are saying is that you have first hand experience killing zombies?

The difference between skeet shooting and zombie fleeing is that when you skeet shoot.. nothing is trying to kill you.
it wouldnt be about the power of the weapon, it would be more about its efficiency. That is why having a side arm and a 8lb assault rifle would be ideal. If you can aim like you say you can, under pressure with a chance of losing your life, why the fuck would you want a shotgun? All a shotgun is doing is putting you closer to the target, which in this scenario would be stupid.. why put your self in any more danger then you need to be.

i've always said, the best gun for anti-zombie situations would be an old m1 or a m14 EBR. something semiautomatic to conserver ammo, fireing large, slow bullets. hi velocity rouns may travel farther, but you're not going to be sniping for fucks sake, only clearing your path as you go. the high velocity rounds would impart less impact force/energy to the zombies head, increasing chance for a through-an-through.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i've always said, the best gun for anti-zombie situations would be an old m1 or a m14 EBR. something semiautomatic to conserver ammo, fireing large, slow bullets. hi velocity rouns may travel farther, but you're not going to be sniping for fucks sake, only clearing your path as you go. the high velocity rounds would impart less impact force/energy to the zombies head, increasing chance for a through-an-through.

what your goal there would be, is to have a rifle powerful enough to penetrate the skull but not leave an exit wound. this results in the round ricocheting around the interior.

But tbh... if the zombie apocalypse where to happen tmrw, i would not be prepared, the FIRST thing i would focus on is food, tools, and high shelter with a sufficient amount of natural material. i.e. boondocks/mountians. Im not going to be focused on some silly kill count. With that said i completely understand why that article suggest the shotgun as the least appealing weapon to use during a situation like that. Your goal is to keep your distance and survive, not hunt and put your self at risk.

alot of people have a hard time understanding situational awareness

[acolyte_to_jippity]

what your goal there would be, is to have a rifle powerful enough to penetrate the skull but not leave an exit wound. this results in the round ricocheting around the interior.

tbh, for mid-range engagements, a simple .22 rifle would rock. i had forgotten about non-exiting shots. i was imagining head-removal type shots, but a .22 at 100 yards would penetrate and not exit. they're easy to use, clean, fix, carry. simple mods turn a bolt-action single-shot into a bolt-action mag-fed, and if you can adjust the sights right, they got great accuracy.

[Jeimuzu]

So I ask you, what is the point of this discussion?

Spam?..

And what did I do inthebutt?..

I've never been a fan of shotguns. Unless you count that one in development. I have no idea what the name is, but it basically is a machine gun shotgun. The shells are exchangeable for grenades!

[inthebutt]

Spam?..

And what did I do inthebutt?..

I've never been a fan of shotguns. Unless you count that one in development. I have no idea what the name is, but it basically is a rapid fire shotgun.

forget it, I'll explain it to you in the server when I see you lol.

@christmas even if shotguns are a bitch to reload, limited ammo and take up a lot of space. every movie ever made about zombies taking over the world have had a shotgun in it. shawn of the dead, dawn of the dead, resident evil, 28 days later, american zombie, day of the dead.