Do not perma without DEMO

[ZERO]

Things like this can be easy to prove with the word of trusted admins and players along with the physical evidence of their stats.

[Dual]

For the most part, anyone using aimbot and speed hacks is not gonna be a regular on The IBIS server, its gonna be a guy who never plays on our server. Only hack a regular might try is a wallhack.

[vicious]

Things like this can be easy to prove with the word of trusted admins and players along with the physical evidence of their stats.

so its okay to perm ban without a demo in these situations then?

[ZERO]

correct