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[Perry]

ya so does my moms buick, and my brother in laws chevy lol.

Im sorry but when people say toyotas and hondas have the most reliability, from a mechanics standpoint, they are just another brand of car. nothin special econo boxes lol.

I had a Saturn Ion 2004. ran 300 thousand miles in the Southern Cali heat. not once did i blow anything in the engine. 1 radiator replaced, 2 water pumps and 3 batteries. plus the reg maintanence. I.E. tires, oil/trans fluid change, cv axles.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ya so does my moms buick, and my brother in laws chevy lol.

Im sorry but when people say toyotas and hondas have the most reliability, from a mechanics standpoint, they are just another brand of car. nothin special econo boxes lol.

I had a Saturn Ion 2004. ran 300 thousand miles in the Southern Cali heat. not once did i blow anything in the engine. 1 radiator replaced, 2 water pumps and 3 batteries. plus the reg maintanence. I.E. tires, oil/trans fluid change, cv axles.

oh, i'm not saying they're "god cars" or anything like that. just that the older camery's were not bad cars. in fact, they were pretty damn excellent. especially for people who don't work on them or customise or anything.

[Perry]

they are good econo cars yes. but i will american over anything else first...but imo