Sniping is NOT CAMPING

[Nemesis]

It depends on the maps, really.

Lego Mafia for instance, everyone stays in their spawn for the first few seconds on certain guns to get a kill across the map. I wouldn't make such a big deal about things like that...and i would hope people aren't.

Guys, if it's not impeding the progress of the game..then why does it matter? There is a difference between trying to get a scout kill and staying behind a box while crouched to stay hidden. Two completely different things.

but don't you think camping there on lego is impeding the progress, because now people don't want to use that part of the map because all the other team does is sit up there and shoot across when you spawn. kinda annoying if you're getting hit there every round.

[XX0wnsXY]

but don't you think camping there on lego is impeding the progress, because now people don't want to use that part of the map because all the other team does is sit up there and shoot across when you spawn. kinda annoying if you're getting hit there every round.

Not at all. I stay in spawn for 2 seconds and try to get someone going around the top. Once I move, I usually head to their spawn and anyone left is usually picked off or easily picked off because they are still focusing on catching anyone leaving my spawn. Usually the round is over quickly. When it's not, it's not usually due to someone camping, it's usually because the fucktards can't find eachother, lol.

[Schnacky]

but don't you think camping there on lego is impeding the progress, because now people don't want to use that part of the map because all the other team does is sit up there and shoot across when you spawn. kinda annoying if you're getting hit there every round.

I'm with Owns on this. I see no issue with this, because all those guys that enjoy standing around the side ramps shooting across to the other team's are easy targets. Normally I rush from one ramp to the other and knife the first person camping the ramp or else I run up and shoot the heck out of the first guy I see pop his head in front of me.

Still it seems Zero's ruling and a majority of admins here are vastly different. Which isn't good actually. Zero is head admin and his ruling is what every admin should follow. It doesn't matter what an admin's feelings or belief for the rules are. They need to follow what Zero set. If an admin doesn't like it they should take it up with Zero to change the rule.

Camping is simply staying in one area and never leaving. Sniping typically can fall under that rule, but sniping can take a bit of skill (mostly in other games) to kill someone. It is more what weapons are expected to be camped more with (scout, AWP, maybe auto-snipers at times), because really I personally can "snipe" with the auto, pump-shooties, and a vast majority of other weapons if I take my time to aim at targets that are a decent distance away. Will I snipe with them in GG, no, Pub yes because de_dust is a wonderful map to pull it off. Still I also always snipe while moving unless getting a kill gets a bit frustrating.

maybe these flash videos will put things into prospective a bit, and get a few laughs at the same time.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/148082
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/59679