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[Jeimuzu]

Got ya.

I do want to point out that reproduction is no longer a necessity for our species. We have become over populated and it would be an awful world to live in if everyone made proper use of their reproductive systems (not only that, but rape would be even more rampant).

I completely understand how our race is overpopulated for this planet, but that still doesn't make logical sense. Unless these people are Christians, or believe that something else is to come for them after this life, then it doesn't make much sense as to why they wouldn't want to continue to pass down their genes. Or maybe that can relate to some of their self esteems being incredibly low (or one of the other million reasons out there).

[Fluffy Frufflebottoms]

You're suggesting that people with low self-esteem become homosexual to avoid procreating?

[SCRIBBLE]

I completely understand how our race is overpopulated for this planet, but that still doesn't make logical sense. Unless these people are Christians, or believe that something else is to come for them after this life, then it doesn't make much sense as to why they wouldn't want to continue to pass down their genes. Or maybe that can relate to some of their self esteems being incredibly low (or one of the other million reasons out there).

The only logic you can apply to homosexuality is that which you create within your own mind to rationalize something you don't understand.

The more plausible explanation for homosexual's "low self-esteem" could be chalked up to conditioning as a child and an ignorant, prejudice society.

[OMGBEARS]

There are heterosexuals who don't want children. This in no way relates to self-esteem, but instead to genes, and DNA. Specifically it relates to the gene which influences the desire to reproduce (at least in mice- http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...nd-female-mice). Homosexuals have been found in close to 1500 species, from penguins to gut worms, and these relationships don't only include sex- but also involve the courtship, bonding, etc that is found in male/female pairs.

They aren't idiots- they are human beings who simply wish to live their lives as you wish to live yours. We as humans have moved past the idea of "we must procreate or we die" as we as a race are becoming less concerned with procreating, and more concerned with self-enlightenment. Even if it was a choice- who decides what is right or what is wrong? Doesn't the Constitution guarantee "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to all Americans?

And no, they are not a race; your definition of "race" is incorrect. In addition, homosexuals might not be able to reproduce in homosexual partners, but they aren't required to do so. There will always be a chance for heterosexual couples to have homosexual children. This should be obvious, as if heterosexual couples only produced heterosexual children, we would not be having this discussion.

Think of it this way, James- take someone who cannot see the color blue. They simply cannot see it, no matter how hard you try to make them. It might not make sense to you why they can't see the color blue, but no matter what they will simply not be able to. Ever.

[StarsMine]

Doesn't the Constitution guarantee "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to all Americans?

No, that's the declaration of independence, and that is not a lawful(would that be the write word?) document

Anyways... I dont know what I wanted to say other then that :/

[OMGBEARS]

Ah, yes. Similar to the content of the 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution which declare that the rights of "life, liberty and property" cannot be threatened by any government without due process of law. Ironically, congress passed the "Defense of Marriage Act" in 1996 which defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman. Following the Constitution is hard, isn't it? Several congressmen have wished to pass into the Constitution an Amendment barring homosexuals from being married, but such an amendment that limits and restricts the rights of a specific group of individuals has never succeeded.

This is not mentioning the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" (in which the United States signed) states that "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ah, yes. Similar to the content of the 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution which declare that the rights of "life, liberty and property" cannot be threatened by any government without due process of law. Ironically, congress passed the "Defense of Marriage Act" in 1996 which defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman. Following the Constitution is hard, isn't it? Several congressmen have wished to pass into the Constitution an Amendment barring homosexuals from being married, but such an amendment that limits and restricts the rights of a specific group of individuals has never succeeded.

This is not mentioning the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" (in which the United States signed) states that "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."

sorry, but this isnt what this thread is about =/

99% of you are basing your ideas from an outside prespective.. try thinking about what you might think if you are or where PREVIOUSLY in the army before hand. Try to understand the struggles that may come for people like myself who do there jobs perfectly having this massive influx of new soldiers who happen to be homosexual.

[mag36]

Try to understand the struggles that may come for people like myself who do there jobs perfectly having this massive influx of new soldiers who happen to be homosexual.

So what is being changed? A few more guys join are gay....... plenty join already. If your feeling uncomfortable in the shower and possibly gay guy looks at your junk? Hell you might as well take it as a compliment.

My point gay or straight in the military it doesn't really matter they are human they all know or can learn how to shoot a gun and even possibly save your life in battle. The only gays I have a problem with it is the ones that make a big deal about it, like they deserve to have a metal for taking it up the ass.....
but thats few and far between

If people want equal rights fine... just act equal
problem with any cultural differences is when they try to segregate them selves.

[StarsMine]

even possibly save your life in battle.

Like that show Shit My Dad Says, Dad - "hey! a lesbian saved my life."

[OMGBEARS]

sorry, but this isnt what this thread is about =/

99% of you are basing your ideas from an outside prespective.. try thinking about what you might think if you are or where PREVIOUSLY in the army before hand. Try to understand the struggles that may come for people like myself who do there jobs perfectly having this massive influx of new soldiers who happen to be homosexual.

I am not homophobic. I wouldn't mind. In fact a majority of america wouldn't mind- this poll says that since 2005, consistently 58% of Americans favor gays serving openly in the military. (http://people-press.org/report/679/)

I actually work with gays almost on a daily basis. Can they do their job just as well as I can? Yes.

And who says that there will be a sudden "massive influx of new soldiers who happen to be homosexual." rather than a large number of the men and women with which you serve coming out finally as openly homosexual. Homosexuals join the military each day- repealing DADT won't really increase those numbers. Those openly serving, however, that will change.

So it really comes down to this: don't be so scared that allowing openly gay soldiers to serve in the military. Things won't change unless you do it. If you turn around after seeing more gays in the military and refuse to accept them as soldiers as you would a straight person- you are taking a toll on moral.