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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
    No, people are upset that it can be done with minimal, if any, oversight by the courts.
    so there stopping people from criminal activity.. and people are upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    so there stopping people from criminal activity.. and people are upset.
    No. They're middle-men ensuring that private interest organisations can circumvent the courts. That's why people are upset. These organisations have lobbied the legislature to avoid having to deal with a judiciary system that often found their methods to be unlawful. Some of these sites are outlets for people committing felony copyright infringement, but others are not. Torrenting, for example, is not a crime. It's a tort handled as a civil matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    so there stopping people from criminal activity.. and people are upset.
    i personally am upset. it's not the stopping criminal activity, but its the fact that they can o this for any reason whatsoever. plus, some of the sites were perfectly legal, like torrent-finder.
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acolyte_to_jippity View Post
    i personally am upset. it's not the stopping criminal activity, but its the fact that they can o this for any reason whatsoever. plus, some of the sites were perfectly legal, like torrent-finder.
    Don't torrent sites provide links to copyrighted content?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Don't torrent sites provide links to copyrighted content?
    Nothing that a torrent site provides as part of serving torrents is copyrighted. Torrent-Finder itself merely links to these sites. It's sorta like shutting down Google for indexing sites that serve content that in some capacity could be used to commit civil offenses.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Don't torrent sites provide links to copyrighted content?
    technically, torrents are just specially formatted text files that a tracker client interprets as instructions for where to go and connect to the actual torrent network. there is no copyright material in torrents.
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acolyte_to_jippity View Post
    technically, torrents are just specially formatted text files that a tracker client interprets as instructions for where to go and connect to the actual torrent network. there is no copyright material in torrents.
    its a huge grey are you're getting into. limewire was shut down for the fact that people were able to download songs that the artist or record label owners did not want them to be that easily (cheaply availiable). in my view torrenting falls under the same category as limewire and napster. there is almost no way the government or torrent provider/search engine can regulate every single thing that people can torrent, its just not plausible at all. regardless of these points, i understand both sides because i too, enjoy torrenting music and downloading from p2p search engines, but i also understand the governments point of view and the need to censor/ban certain content. you shouldn't need court to see if you can stop illicit activity, a cops not gonna walk down the street and say, oh theres a guy robbing a store, i'm gonna go see if i can get a court order to stop him. yes, eventually it should/will go to court, but you have to take care of business first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    wait, they're stopping illegal activity, and people are upset?
    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    so there stopping people from criminal activity.. and people are upset.
    If that's really all you see in this issue, you're retarded. I'm too tired to go into detail right now, but that's really all the time you deserve anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tickle Me Emo View Post
    If that's really all you see in this issue, you're retarded. I'm too tired to go into detail right now, but that's really all the time you deserve anyways.
    I give you +1 my good sir.

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeimuzu View Post
    I give you +1 my good sir.
    they don't need a court order to stop them, if they have exigent circumstances they can shut it down, then later prove that they were doing something illegal, then go though the proper channels. the trouble comes when they do that and later can't prove that something illegal was happening.
    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    Nem, if you want to make racist jokes and shit all the time, fine.
    http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2010/07/02/nemesis/nemesis-jpg/

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