SuperNukeMan - 12/18/10 @ 22:35

[SuperNukeMan]

dude relax... that was completely unnecessary and uncalled for. He is my best friend and like i said, i enjoy this community and its a place that we would like to play in, due to there being some skill at place here, as well as decent environment. But those types of comments are what makes it so hard to actually tolerate other gamers these days. There was absolutely zero reason for you to go out of your way and troll there.

[jssaylor2007]

Its what he does

[hallwagner]

havent watched the demo(s) yet, but noticed a couple unusual things about the player. 1st, kdr is oddly low for a player with a ban request, 1.37 is only slightly above average for ibis pub. 2nd (and more concerning) the players headshot percentage is extremely high (%65), even for a player who has been playing as long and as well as you claim you have been playing. notice in the top 50 there is only a couple players who come close to that kind of ratio, and you are a substantial amount even above those players.

edit: last session is utterly ridiculous no matter how bad the players you were playing against were. 28-3 is understandable opposing shitty players, but the %82 headshot ratio is nearly impossible under normal circumstances

[dice]

Let's keep this thread civil and mature, people. Yes, I'm new and hardly have much authority around here but seriously, stop acting like highschoolers.

SuperNukeMan says he intentionally tries to only get headshot kills. Watching the demos with this knowledge - it isn't too hard to see exactly what's going on. This would not only account for his ridiculous HS %, but also for those moments where he appears to "not be able to hit shit". The shots he gets do not appear mechanical in nature at all.

The more I watch these now the more I'm convinced this ban should be lifted, and if it is I accept full responsibility for wrongful ban and any consequences that follow suit.

[Showtime]

To be honest... dice i don't believe SuperNukeMan wall even know i dont know him personally but i played with him a bunch of times when im in the server. His scores are usually good and i have spectated him before.. He never seemed walling or hacking to me. Like i said hes a skilled player. I get alot of headshots in the server as well... sometimes the players even think i hack... I can get up to 7 headshots a round which it would be impossible according to hallerwagner. Also my headshot percentage is up to almost 70% so i don't think it's that impossible to get it if i can get it. And None of the admins and people i know think i hack or wall at all.. It's all about 50% Concentration, 30% Reflexes, 10% Aim, and 10% Luck. Thats what i think. But if a ban is still justified to you and other admins then it shall be a ban.

[hallwagner]

To be honest... dice i don't believe SuperNukeMan wall even know i dont know him personally but i played with him a bunch of times when im in the server. His scores are usually good and i have spectated him before.. He never seemed walling or hacking to me. Like i said hes a skilled player. I get alot of headshots in the server as well... sometimes the players even think i hack... I can get up to 7 headshots a round which it would be impossible according to hallerwagner. Also my headshot percentage is up to almost 70% so i don't think it's that impossible to get it if i can get it. And None of the admins and people i know think i hack or wall at all.. It's all about 50% Concentration, 30% Reflexes, 10% Aim, and 10% Luck. Thats what i think. But if a ban is still justified to you and other admins then it shall be a ban.

i didnt say it was impossible, i said that its extremely difficult, i could definately believe 7 headshots in a row or a session with an extravagant headshot ratio. but to maintain a 65% headshot ratio over a long period of playing time is extremely difficult, although as dice said, if he ALWAYS tries to aim for the head, i can understand the high hs ratio and the low(ish) kdr

[CYBER]

Let's keep this thread civil and mature, people. Yes, I'm new and hardly have much authority around here but seriously, stop acting like highschoolers.

SuperNukeMan says he intentionally tries to only get headshot kills. Watching the demos with this knowledge - it isn't too hard to see exactly what's going on. This would not only account for his ridiculous HS %, but also for those moments where he appears to "not be able to hit shit". The shots he gets do not appear mechanical in nature at all.

The more I watch these now the more I'm convinced this ban should be lifted, and if it is I accept full responsibility for wrongful ban and any consequences that follow suit.

i read his story too, i find that explanatory, and it would make sense if he MEANS to get those HS ...
IF he isnt toggling, then just like u dice, i already said i would apologize for the confusion. we are just trying to do our job, and we cant be psychic and read his mind to know WHY he doesnt get anything other than HS, thatsr what the appeal is for.
the ban was made because many other ppl second the motion to ban and have him appeal, it could be permanent if proven hacking, or the ban will be lifted. after reading his story, i would understand his tactics and question my own ban as well... i am not here to just ban u and call it a day. no, i banned u to get the story out of u , and based on that, and demos, a higher decision than mine will take place.
gd look proving urself innocent, im not kdn, really gd luck , bcos u seem like a respectful player since u didnt come here bashing on everyone, and some ppl treated u wrong. but it is no long my own decision sincei wasnt the only one to call hacks on u.
i leave this for higher clan members, even zero to debate it .
sorry again for any trouble, and
PLEASE GUYS, DONT TRY TO START A FLAME WAR HERE, THE CLAN MEMBERS ALREADY HAVE A SHITLOAD OF STUFF TO MONITOR, LETS NOT WASTE THEIR TIME WITH POINTLESS FLAME COMMENTS...

editl: sry for double post, wanted to seperate my reply to tentoes and the reply to supernukem and dice in case a moderator decided to delete some stuff.

[brett friggin favre]

havent watched the demo(s) yet, but noticed a couple unusual things about the player. 1st, kdr is oddly low for a player with a ban request, 1.37 is only slightly above average for ibis pub. 2nd (and more concerning) the players headshot percentage is extremely high (%65), even for a player who has been playing as long and as well as you claim you have been playing. notice in the top 50 there is only a couple players who come close to that kind of ratio, and you are a substantial amount even above those players.

edit: last session is utterly ridiculous no matter how bad the players you were playing against were. 28-3 is understandable opposing shitty players, but the %82 headshot ratio is nearly impossible under normal circumstances

The KDR would be what a hacker would have, being inconsistent (toggling). The high HS% indicates something fishy. Basically looking at the stats, it's pretty textbook.

PS: Wow Wagner, your typing seems to be in much more proper English. Could it be that Fluffy and I are rubbing off on you?

[hallwagner]

The KDR would be what a hacker would have, being inconsistent (toggling). The high HS% indicates something fishy. Basically looking at the stats, it's pretty textbook.

PS: Wow Wagner, your typing seems to be in much more proper English. Could it be that Fluffy and I are rubbing off on you?

well, in a way yes. i decided on my own to start doing that, partially because it looks more intelligent, partially because i feel like a dick doing it, and partially because i saw you guys doing it

also, this is kinda how i talk in real life. i always try to correct people and converse intelligently, some people hate it, but i enjoy it. it depends on the time restraints, in instant message type situations, i usally use a lot of shorthand and abbreviations. for some reason it feels more......well, right to write in this way on a gaming forum. i can't really explain it

[CYBER]

well, in a way yes. i decided on my own to start doing that, partially because it looks more intelligent, partially because i feel like a dick doing it, and partially because i saw you guys doing it

also, this is kinda how i talk in real life. i always try to correct people and converse intelligently, some people hate it, but i enjoy it. it depends on the time restraints, in instant message type situations, i usally use a lot of shorthand and abbreviations. for some reason it feels more......well, right to write in this way on a gaming forum. i can't really explain it

just admit that u and fluffy are butt buddies and get on with it:P

but about bret, so what's YOUR opinion about all this?... would his "intentional" HS needs be a factor in those kdr and HS ratios?