CS:S Update Official Thread

[Fireye]

Can we get handicaps in GG?

[mcilwain]

Just a hint zero, ma_rcon sv_nostats 1
Make sure the value is 1 so that the players's stats are not ruined or get achievements.
For zombiemod, WCS.
sv_nomvp 1 to turn off MVP stars on a server.

[Christmas]

Just a hint zero, ma_rcon sv_nostats 1
Make sure the value is 1 so that the players's stats are not ruined or get achievements.
For zombiemod, WCS.
sv_nomvp 1 to turn off MVP stars on a server.

What's wrong with MVP stars on WCS and ZM?

[mcilwain]

Idk but its just something i felt like adding.

I did this to my server because its going to have surfmod.

[ZERO]

Actually I think we will keep mvp on the zm although yes I planned to have stats turned off on the zm.

Also:
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/WeskersSlave83/funnies/nfufarnsworth.jpg
and in addition it allows me to announce that a fix for Zombie Mod has been developed. The server should be back up in about 4 hours or so.

[mcilwain]

cool, cant wait to see it.
But if you dont like that classic gui ill work into finding a way to make it regular if so.

Wcs mod will be like a long time.

[mcilwain]

Also is the tickrate gonna be resolved? i cant imagine what it would be like in lost world redux with the plane going down...

[Christmas]

Also is the tickrate gonna be resolved? i cant imagine what it would be like in lost world redux with the plane going down...

I think tickrate is going to stay at 66.

Which is complete bullshit. The game is so much different to me now.

[ZERO]

Also is the tickrate gonna be resolved? i cant imagine what it would be like in lost world redux with the plane going down...

? the tick was 66 before... it is going to still be 66...

[mcilwain]

ah, thought the zm server was 100

[ZERO]

The zm test worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombie Mod is performing configuration now and will be online in a few hours!!!!

[mcilwain]

Cool, i had a question about zm
What version of zombiemod are you using? or is there configuration to make it different?
It looks way different from the download in the zombiemod site.

[ZERO]

All classes and models work, files are compressing now.

[hallwagner]

I think tickrate is going to stay at 66.

Which is complete bullshit. The game is so much different to me now.

didnt valve give an option to change that? if not, yea thats horseshit

[ZERO]

No they did not, there is a mod that gives you the option though.

Compression almost done.

Fixed a major glitch that prevented admin logs from being recorded.

Servers will be restarted later for an update to sockets.

[mcilwain]

Hope the the stats system and achivements if offline..
I dont want to have 1000 deaths after a day of zombiemod :p

[ZERO]

Well the cvar is in there but as seen earlier that does not mean much to valve...

The files are uploading now and should finish in about 3 hours or so.

[mcilwain]

So what tools and downloads u used?

[ZERO]

Just the stuff on the sm forums. The rest is custom configurations and private mods that were developed over time.

[hallwagner]

No they did not, there is a mod that gives you the option though.

i hope you get that mod :P

[Schnacky]

i hope you get that mod :P

he probably does, but he stated a few posts ago tick was always 66. No idea if he what servers he was talking about though.

[Insaniac]

Thanks for keeping us updated, Zero. Nice work getting this taken care of - looking forward to ZM back.

[mcilwain]

so that means the zombiemod you have is private :[
and the cheer script?

[Schnacky]

Well I just looked through the official update log from Valve. Other than achievements, the death freeze cam, other TF2 enhancements, and engine upgrade; I dont see any super major changes. All "gameplay" changes are actually for the better from what I see.

All I figure is that the Source 2009 engine is slightly different then 2006/7 which is the cause of the broken mods.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3976/

[ZERO]

we already have it, the current servers already are 100tick and have been since the update.

[ZERO]

Tracers will be broken for a while as the engine changed the offsets. I would be able to fix this but I am not that skilled as to create offsets on my own... the code was taken largely from another script. I think what I need is the offset for Weapon_ShootPosition but I am not sure. I created a thread here to get help and hopefully I can get some assistance: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=130559

Upload at 55%

[mcilwain]

Found it

254 CBasePlayer::Weapon_ShootPosition(void)

Windows will be 253

[ZERO]

Unfortunately even with these different offsets it crashes as soon as it executes... I will just look into this plugin after vacation.

[ZERO]

<40min till zm is up the gg and pub have had sockets updated.

[ZERO]

Upload finished now decompressing!

[ZERO]

Zombie Server up!

[ZERO]

It crashes in loops if there is more than 1 player. I am looking for a fix.

[Kavinsky]

I think I speak for everyone when I say fuck valve!

[ZERO]

It is totally fucked up I got it to work without crashing but now if you get tagged nothing happens...

[ZERO]

It is so fucked up even with everything turned off it just crashes when you connect!@! I am trying to reupload all the data again doing it the long way directly with no compression. My goal now is just to get it to turn on and allow me to connect with no mods without crashing. From there I can then try to re do everything I have been doing for 50 hours now.

It will take about 8 hours to upload so I am going to bed for now.

[Garry]

WoW Epic fail by Valve :assault: :reddot:

[Spasm]

It is so fucked up even with everything turned off it just crashes when you connect!@! I am trying to reupload all the data again doing it the long way directly with no compression. My goal now is just to get it to turn on and allow me to connect with no mods without crashing. From there I can then try to re do everything I have been doing for 50 hours now.

It will take about 8 hours to upload so I am going to bed for now.

sounds similiar to me when I am programming and I think everything was going well and well.... LOL

[ZERO]

Well still a few GB on the transfer, but it looks like a patch was released and hopefully this will fix my problems. This is just getting fucking crazy b/c I leave the country tomorrow morning!

[Christmas]

The servers consistently crash.

So awesome.

[ZERO]

Yes the new game is very unstable. The upload for the last 9 hours failed I am now starting all over again with a fresh install from scratch.

[ZERO]

Clean install finished now making copy for test bed

Also creating local mirror

[mcilwain]

Nice hope it works this time.

I finished testing it, it wouldn't execute in some reloads i cant jump, or fire my gun with it.
I am looking at the files..

[XxMastagunzxX]

Somebody buy Zero some fucking beer!

[ZERO]

I found one issue, some ZM maps crash as soon as anyone connects to them. Given how many maps we have it may take some time to weed them out.

[Nicktendo13]

Somebody buy Zero some fucking beer!

or 6 rockstars.... ZERO UR A SERVER HERO!!

[mcilwain]

Maps probably broke along the update...

Fucking Steam....

[ZERO]

Now my only problem is getting it so that people turn into zombies!

[mcilwain]

i'd love to be human the whole round, lmfao and the zombie cant makr profit but get shot over and over.

Still looking in the file....

[ZERO]

Got it WORKING, now just getting the other plugins on and we will be in business!

[Nicktendo13]

Now my only problem is getting it so that people turn into zombies!

we need that!!! (but admins should have it enabled :p)

[mcilwain]

nice job zero, pm me when u turn it on so im the 1st person to that server!

I could help test it.

[Nicktendo13]

same here.... i would like to help

[ZERO]

Server LIVE!

[-blink-]

Hate the update...

[Nicktendo13]

i am joining

[XxMastagunzxX]

I was getting quite a bit of lag spikes

[mcilwain]

So zero when your inactive can i take care of the servers? if anything happens i will contact you via phone or something else.:smirk:

[mastercheff]

So zero when your inactive can i take care of the servers? if anything happens i will contact you via phone or something else.:smirk:

I might sound like an asshole but I must ask one question...WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE.

[mcilwain]

Hm, just trying to give him a break, since he revived the servers.

[ZERO]

corrected an error on all servers with core.cfg that likely resulted in a good chunk of lag.

[hallwagner]

So zero when your inactive can i take care of the servers? if anything happens i will contact you via phone or something else.:smirk:

wouldnt a clan member be a better option? lol

[acolyte_to_jippity]

wouldnt a clan member be a better option? lol

actuually, not really. i say zero puts the updates on hiatus and head out for some well-deserved european tail!!

(carina's in denmark, fyi)

seriously, you've done an incredible job, you need to enjoy yourself. take a laptop so you can check in and restart shit if needed, and just have fun (like i said...denmark)


and crazy robert, you honestly think he's going togive over control toa brand new guy? get real

[hallwagner]

actuually, not really. i say zero puts the updates on hiatus and head out for some well-deserved european tail!!

(carina's in denmark, fyi)

seriously, you've done an incredible job, you need to enjoy yourself. take a laptop so you can check in and restart shit if needed, and just have fun (like i said...denmark)


and crazy robert, you honestly think he's going togive over control toa brand new guy? get real

yes zero needs to relax, but he also needs somebody he can trust to handle any issues that arise. im sure your handling that though zero :P

[mcilwain]

im not really got do it.
I already knew that but just wanted to give him a break.

[Spasm]

Hm, just trying to give him a break, since he revived the servers.

why would anyone give you full control over the servers and just barely knowing you... that would be stupid

[ZERO]

He is just trying to be nice and offer some help.

[maynard]

Hm, just trying to give him a break, since he revived the servers.

pretty sure I already explained 2 you if he wanted your help he would ask for it, you don't need 2 constantly ask if you can do things for him.

like I said before... Zero does it all himself, that's how he likes it. you're not the only person qualified 2 do these things... and you keep claiming your ever so busy with your own servers yet you're on our forums constantly asking the same questions over and over.... kinda weird.

all though I do think we need 2 buy zero a case of beer when he's done getting this shit all figured out, never seen the guy work this hard before lol.


why would anyone give you full control over the servers and just barely knowing you... that would be stupid

+1:wtg:

[SCRIBBLE]

Everyone is complaining yet valve implemented the update regardless. I am certain they know what they are doing. However, everyone is complaining about trivial little additions to the game. Oh no I get to see the guy that killed me! That's so terrible! Bitch bitch bitch, moan moan moan. I hear a douche bag could alleviate the soreness from all the sand in your vagina.

Bunch of nerds complaining about change. Cry me a river and drown in it.

Props to Zero for keeping a level head.

[Nicktendo13]

or zero could just not worry about it, and go on some well needed vacation time! have fun zero!!

[maynard]

or zero could just not worry about it, and go on some well needed vacation time! have fun zero!!

he is going on his vacation, ill drive over 2 the states and ship his ass in a box 2 where-ever if I have 2.

[Spasm]

He is just trying to be nice and offer some help.

I understand that, but thats like a guy that visits a bank to deposit money, walks into the bank, finds out the owner is going on vacation, and asks for the keys to the vault & says he will run everything A ok. I just thought people had common sense.

[SCRIBBLE]

I understand that, but thats like a guy that visits a bank to deposit money, walks into the bank, finds out the owner is going on vacation, and asks for the keys to the vault & says he will run everything A ok. I just thought people had common sense.

Because making a generous offer is such a terrible thing to do. Also common sense has nothing to do with it. A nice gesture is a nice gesture and it is up to Zero to make the decision, not anyone else.

Way to push potential regulars away over what is a nice gesture.

[maynard]

scribble[nuke];72952']Because making a generous offer is such a terrible thing to do. Also common sense has nothing to do with it. A nice gesture is a nice gesture and it is up to Zero to make the decision, not anyone else.

Way to push potential regulars away over what is a nice gesture.

Lmfao half of his like 60 posts are him asking the exact same 3 questions over and over and over. that's called spam. even more so when he's already been informed that if zero wanted his help he would seek it out.

[Spasm]

scribble[nuke];72952']Because making a generous offer is such a terrible thing to do. Also common sense has nothing to do with it. A nice gesture is a nice gesture and it is up to Zero to make the decision, not anyone else.

Way to push potential regulars away over what is a nice gesture.

Being nice gets people robbed and shit stolen, this is the real world, not some damn fantasy land.

[mastercheff]

I mean what robert asked was like asking if a criminal could be let loose every once in a while.

[Nicktendo13]

he is going on his vacation, ill drive over 2 the states and ship his ass in a box 2 where-ever if I have 2.

you are a very good friend to him. :p

[Carina]

actuually, not really. i say zero puts the updates on hiatus and head out for some well-deserved european tail!!

(carina's in denmark, fyi)

seriously, you've done an incredible job, you need to enjoy yourself. take a laptop so you can check in and restart shit if needed, and just have fun (like i said...denmark)


and crazy robert, you honestly think he's going togive over control toa brand new guy? get real

:D haha

but yeah Zero.. if your comming to Denmark, i can make sure you can get internet when you need it... ;) :wtg:

[SCRIBBLE]

Being nice gets people robbed and shit stolen, this is the real world, not some damn fantasy land.

Yes this is the real world where ZERO could say no for himself.

[Spasm]

:D haha

but yeah Zero.. if your comming to Denmark, i can make sure you can get internet when you need it... ;) :wtg:

i have no idea why, but that sounded hot :O

[Spasm]

scribble[nuke];72961']Yes this is the real world where ZERO could say no for himself.

He's an idiot if he lets a complete stranger run the servers while hes gone for 2 weeks. Besides the fact, he has asked way too many times on the forums wanting to help, its suspicious.

[Carina]

i have no idea why, but that sounded hot :O

lol :lmao:
well you guys know what i mean.. i hope. :smirk:

[SCRIBBLE]

He's an idiot if he lets a complete stranger run the servers while hes gone for 2 weeks. Besides the fact, he has asked way too many times on the forums wanting to help, its suspicious.

I agree with you. All I am trying to say is let ZERO speak for himself. If he does not address the issue then you should ignore it as well. I doubt ZERO would allow it but at least give him the chance to say no. It's disrespectful to speak for ZERO. Plus, ZERO even said it himself that he was only trying to be nice.

[devour]

Lmfao half of his like 60 posts are him asking the exact same 3 questions over and over and over. that's called spam. even more so when he's already been informed that if zero wanted his help he would seek it out.

informed by people other than zero himself, until a couple pages ago. no one is zero's keeper here.

[ZERO]

informed by people other than zero himself, until a couple pages ago. no one is zero's keeper here.

What about me!? :muffy:

[ZERO]

Updated servers to prevent continuous log generation for meaningless data. This should reduce lag greatly.

[mastercheff]

Updated servers to prevent continuous log generation for meaningless data. This should reduce lag greatly.

Zero have you gotten that error about to many vertexes and informing the programmer about it?

[StarsMine]

Zero, You have gone through so much trouble for us, ill go ahead sometime soon and buy admin so you can get some money for this trouble.

[ZERO]

Valve just released another update. So far it looks like it reduces server lag on my local copies. I am going to update the servers now so that it is done before I go.

[ZERO]

zm server is now being updated.

[mcilwain]

Im not being that way, you people think im crazy, but i enjoy administrating and managing servers as much as helping people out.
And i also map, and script mods for CS:S...
Get over it...
Im not begging, or that...

People need to learn.

[hallwagner]

Valve just released another update. So far it looks like it reduces server lag on my local copies. I am going to update the servers now so that it is done before I go.

are they gonna fix the fucking hitboxes? :/

[mcilwain]

Why did they even re-arrange the hitboxes?

Why do we need there crappy new gui?

Thats my question, the old CS:S was way better but steam fucked it up to bugs and they even moved it out of beta....
Still has problems.

[StarsMine]

God damn this reserved slot BS is annoying there was only 4 people on the server and I got kicked for it.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

are they gonna fix the fucking hitboxes? :/

technically, they already did. now they are "correct"

[ZERO]

OMFG the update is GREAT NO LAG it is amazing1!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZERO]

GG server updating.

[hallwagner]

technically, they already did. now they are "correct"

according to a lot of people the new hit-boxes are on par with cs 1.6 hit-boxes. well as an individual who hasn't played 1.6 in fucking forever (a couple years ) , it would be a lot easier for them (in my mind and preference) to just change it back to how cs:s first was, instead of having to readjust to the "new" hit-boxes. its like playing a whole new game now. i have no skill at shooting now, its as if i just bought the game as my first fps. i know i can get used to it, but its still unnecessary as hell

[ZERO]

pub server updating

[Kavinsky]

Just a heads up a new update from valve.

Linux Dedicated Server


Fixed srcds_run so -autoupdate works properly for Counter-Strike: Source




Counter-Strike: Source


Fixed several problems with missing textures in community maps.
Fixed a crash that could occur when stats get updated.
Fixed a crash that could occur when displaying the scoreboard.
Added "cl_show_achievement_popups", a convar that is on by default. Turning it off disables in-game achievement announcements.
Restricted the range of commands that servers can cause clients to execute when closing the MOTD.
Server admins will need to change the "cmd" key from a string to one of the following ints:

0 for no command
1 for joingame
2 for changeteam
3 for impulse 101
4 for mapinfo
5 for closed_htmlpage
6 for chooseteam




Engine


Fixed an exploit that allowed a plug-in to be loaded as a .dll file on the client after being downloaded from the server.
Missed from last update:

Removed an exploit that allowed players to change their in-game name outside of the Steam Community (fucking assholes)

[ZERO]

I am on phone at airport I know zm is down will reboot when I get internet.

[ricochet]

this new update fucking sucks!!!!

[mastercheff]

this new update fucking sucks!!!!

Thank you captain obvious for your input.

[Nicktendo13]

Zero, You have gone through so much trouble for us, ill go ahead sometime soon and buy admin so you can get some money for this trouble.

just donate.....

[ZERO]

How is the server back!? I did not even fix it...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

How is the server back!? I did not even fix it...

i guess you're just that good

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

My favorite Zm is down ='(

[mastercheff]

My favorite Zm is down ='(

About time you got back.

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

I play under name "The Box Remix ou La Boite" ....

[ricochet]

Thank you captain obvious for your input.

what's your fucking problem?

[Kavinsky]

One of my groups, against the css beta just posted this:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSSUPDATE/announcements/detail/55350258890283030


DtXg2ugV140

Might be worth looking into if anything comes of it.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

One of my groups, against the css beta just posted this:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSSUPDATE/announcements/detail/55350258890283030


DtXg2ugV140

Might be worth looking into if anything comes of it.

we don't want a hl2:dm mod though, one that mods css back the correct way is what we'd want.

but i knew it was only a matter of time

[StarsMine]

Im just annoyed at how the engion cut my FPS in half, I used to get a solid 100+ fps with everything but AA maxed... now I have to put everything on medium to get a solid 60 :/

Why the hell do I have to buy a new video card for CSS? I mean I was planing on getting a 5770 when 6000s come out(im hoping for it to hit about 100-120$) but thats not going to be untill next year >.<

[ZERO]

You could also go dual core also hl2 dm is going to be switched to ob sooner or later anyways...

[StarsMine]

You could also go dual core also hl2 dm is going to be switched to ob sooner or later anyways...

Dual core crashed it, also I may be confused but I thought that ment CPU, but CPU doesnt have a major effect on the FPS.

if they ment dual core GPUs.... well I didnt buy an sliable card

Edit: the term in-game was muticore rendering, leads me to believe from that wording it would be GPU

[ZERO]

Multicore is for cpu it lets it use mutiple threads. While gpu does improve gaming performance for almost all engines the exception is source. Source is one of the most cpu intensive engines that exists due to physics requirements. Source is much more cpu intensive than other engines. This is why multicore should improve performance on all systems not bottlenecked by gpu.

Also zm and gg now have tracers back :wtg:

[Kavinsky]

I doubt it, valve knows hl2 dm is as good as dead anyways, why else would it have been left out of the massive engine update for all three of the hl2 games?

Its last update was nov 12 2007 after all and its had a max of only 3,000 players today vs CS:S's 60,000

[Rage]

I still can't get mine to work.

[StarsMine]

Multicore is for cpu it lets it use mutiple threads. While gpu does improve gaming performance for almost all engines the exception is source. Source is one of the most cpu intensive engines that exists due to physics requirements. Source is much more cpu intensive than other engines. This is why multicore should improve performance on all systems not bottlenecked by gpu.

Also zm and gg now have tracers back :wtg:

Yea, doing that and turing net_graph to 1 helped get me to have a solid 60 fps on all maps and solid 100 on most

why the hell is netgraph 4 (what it set me on after the update) so intensive that it killed my fps a good 10-30 >.<

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Yea, doing that and turing net_graph to 1 helped get me to have a solid 60 fps on all maps and solid 100 on most

why the hell is netgraph 4 (what it set me on after the update) so intensive that it killed my fps a good 10-30 >.<

the old net_graph 3 is now net_graph 1

[mag36]

the net_graph 1 doesnt show loss and choke like the old net_graph 3 did though

[acolyte_to_jippity]

the net_graph 1 doesnt show loss and choke like the old net_graph 3 did though

it shows lurch.

and doesn't it?

[Kavinsky]

to lighten everyones mood here we did have 2 good things come back this week, Futurama (WOOHO!!) and Top Gear with what I presume is a new director because it was actually a pretty fun episode (two words, reliant robin)

[Schnacky]

Multicore is for cpu it lets it use mutiple threads. While gpu does improve gaming performance for almost all engines the exception is source. Source is one of the most cpu intensive engines that exists due to physics requirements. Source is much more cpu intensive than other engines. This is why multicore should improve performance on all systems not bottlenecked by gpu.

Also zm and gg now have tracers back :wtg:

Its not the only engine that is CPU intensive. Mass Effect is just as bad. If I had a quad-core I could run the visuals at max. Makes no freaking sense since I'm running a GTX470 but whatever....

Also Final Fantasy 14 seems it will need a Phenom x6 to properly run on high. Its disgusting how badly my 7750be OCed to 3GHz keep the scores on the benchmark down. (2204/8000)

[devour]

for those who are still experiencing lag and have not downloaded or created their own FPS config, add these commands to your autoexec file:

rate "35000"
cl_lagcomp_errorcheck "1"
cl_lagcompensation "1"
cl_interp_threadmodeticks "0"
cl_updaterate "101"
cl_interp "0"
cl_interp_ratio "1"
cl_interp_all "0"
cl_cmdrate "101"
cl_smooth "0"
cl_smoothtime "0.01"
cl_resend "6"
cl_pred_optimize "2"
net_maxfragments "1280"
cl_timeout "30"
cl_downloadfilter "none"
cl_timeout "9999999"

this will keep your lerp at 10.0ms consistently. and yes ive heard the rumors about lerp needing to stay "white". out of everything ive tested ive found capping lerp at 10.0ms with this config to work best.

also you can make cl_interp .03 and have cl_interp_ratio at 1 or 2 to create the same effect

[acolyte_to_jippity]

to lighten everyones mood here we did have 2 good things come back this week, Futurama (WOOHO!!) and Top Gear with what I presume is a new director because it was actually a pretty fun episode (two words, reliant robin)

the reliant robin episode was the only one i've ever watched...but it made me lol. "just a little <IRK> that way and there goes bristol, and a little <IRK> that way and that's west-hampshire!"

lol


Its not the only engine that is CPU intensive. Mass Effect is just as bad. If I had a quad-core I could run the visuals at max. Makes no freaking sense since I'm running a GTX470 but whatever....

Also Final Fantasy 14 seems it will need a Phenom x6 to properly run on high. Its disgusting how badly my 7750be OCed to 3GHz keep the scores on the benchmark down. (2204/8000)

you're compareing css graphics to mass effect graphics. dumbass

[hallwagner]

the old net_graph 3 is now net_graph 1

oh thats why it looked different, i was like WTF

[StarsMine]

Well this is annoying if you want choke/loss to be shown you have to live with that annoying as hell graph that tells you nothing, if you dont want that graph you have to live with no choke/loss....

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

[ZERO]

for those who are still experiencing lag and have not downloaded or created their own FPS config, add these commands to your autoexec file:

rate "35000"
cl_lagcomp_errorcheck "1"
cl_lagcompensation "1"
cl_interp_threadmodeticks "0"
cl_updaterate "101"
cl_interp "0"
cl_interp_ratio "1"
cl_interp_all "0"
cl_cmdrate "101"
cl_smooth "0"
cl_smoothtime "0.01"
cl_resend "6"
cl_pred_optimize "2"
net_maxfragments "1280"
cl_timeout "30"
cl_downloadfilter "none"
cl_timeout "9999999"

this will keep your lerp at 10.0ms consistently. and yes ive heard the rumors about lerp needing to stay "white". out of everything ive tested ive found capping lerp at 10.0ms with this config to work best.

also you can make cl_interp .03 and have cl_interp_ratio at 1 or 2 to create the same effect

I will be using this when I get home my lerp was only 20 with my old settings!

[ZERO]

New gore mod:!? http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=67863

[ZERO]

Will add when approved: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=130867

[StarsMine]

Will add when approved: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=130867

oh thank god :hail:

[ZERO]

Also note that due to a glitch only the 2 people that got admin today and me can unban people. Mani added a new flag for unbanning that no one has. This is why your unbans have been faling. I am working on a way to batch correct this.

[StarsMine]

so what is this lurp thing you guys are all talking about? mines at 100ms

[ZERO]

so what is this lurp thing you guys are all talking about? mines at 100ms

56k Failure :violin:

[StarsMine]

56k Failure :violin:

what?

[ZERO]

Updated the admins data on all servers so that you can all unban again and so that you do not get kicked for reserved slots.

[XxMastagunzxX]

ZM seems to be running smoothly!

[StarsMine]

im glitching the fuck out
death animation a good 3 secs after I die
Invisible Mos Def
and Locked is a spy >.<

[devour]

so what is this lurp thing you guys are all talking about? mines at 100ms

lerp is basically what measures your loss/choke. it shows the number of msecs of interpolation being used by the client. it doesnt give you accurate numbers like loss and choke did, but in essence it's the same shit.

for those of you who are crying about lagging in-game now, versus pre-update, then you need to start altering your autoexec configs.

also, the stupid glitch with dead bodies that a lot of people are complaining about; simply get rid of dead bodies altogether. theyre worthless and cause for distractions anyway.

cl_ragdoll_physics_enable "0

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ZM seems to be running smoothly!

yep. and zombie settings are finally fixed!!!

they're actual threats nao!!!

ya'll can expect to see me on zm more now, just like before the zombies became worthless

[ZERO]

The zombies were changed like a month ago when they all got 500hp added. Also the sound plugins was added to stop that stupid annoying sound every few seconds.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

The zombies were changed like a month ago when they all got 500hp added. Also the sound plugins was added to stop that stupid annoying sound every few seconds.

not just hp. my poison no longer flys across the entire map when shot. and, it all just seems...right.

and what sound do you mean?

[mag36]

not just hp. my poison no longer flys across the entire map when shot. and, it all just seems...right.

and what sound do you mean?

hopefully he means that damn ticking noise the goes "squish squish" for a timer its fucking annoying

[StarsMine]

hopefully he means that damn ticking noise the goes "squish squish" for a timer its fucking annoying

and whenever someone joins and that reserved slot makes it even worse.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

hopefully he means that damn ticking noise the goes "squish squish" for a timer its fucking annoying


and whenever someone joins and that reserved slot makes it even worse.

seriously, what noise are you guys talking about?

[Schnacky]

you're compareing css graphics to mass effect graphics. dumbass

No, I'm comparing the Source engine to w/e Mass Effect uses and the Crystal engine. All multi-core intensive engines.

And if I was comparing Mass Effect's graphics to CSS, I'd actually say CSS looks better than Mass Effect on PC the majority of the time.

[ZERO]

Well the squish noise is gone so you can not hear it... lol

Now back to the beach

[ZERO]

will try to get gore on the servers tomorrow.

[XxMastagunzxX]

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This is still funny after all this time LOL

[SCRIBBLE]

This is still funny after all this time LOL

The whistles go whooooo

[Spasm]

http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=117389&ps_sess_id=97e4bd31d045c50d7097695b89c05fed

Thats my gun game psycho stats page, I just wanted to point out that my average accuracy before update was like 35 percent, I have now gotten 3 sessions over 50 percent accuracy out of 6 games. Maybe the new hitboxes are pretty good

[StarsMine]

http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=117389&ps_sess_id=97e4bd31d045c50d7097695b89c05fed

Thats my gun game psycho stats page, I just wanted to point out that my average accuracy before update was like 35 percent, I have now gotten 3 sessions over 50 percent accuracy out of 6 games. Maybe the new hitboxes are pretty good

I like how your score can go down that far and still remain rank 1

just looked at mine aver edge is 30% but am getting an easy 50 from the update

[Spasm]

I like how your score can go down that far and still remain rank 1

just looked at mine aver edge is 30% but am getting an easy 50 from the update

It's not just me. It's a good thing, yea starsmine I am playing gun game again :)

[devour]

it's because now your bullets actually go where theyre supposed to hahaha

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it's because now your bullets actually go where theyre supposed to hahaha

no, it's actually because it's toned down in difficulty for the one-button mac bastards.

[StarsMine]

no, it's actually because it's toned down in difficulty for the one-button mac bastards.

Tone down? no your still playing against the same people, its just now more of a twitch shooter then it was before. (why I kick ass now :P)

[XxMastagunzxX]

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This is still funny after all this time LOL

I JUST REALIZED I POSTED THIS SHIT IN THE WRONG THREAD....:headache:

[ZERO]

FAILURE, but anti reconnect now changed to 5 seconds.

[StarsMine]

FAILURE, but anti reconnect now changed to 5 seconds.

Thanks, that should limit the annoyance

[ZERO]

I sware even when I come back from the lcub I got the baby sit these servcer s\aftert this va;lve update. I have ghad tooi many drinks to watch this shit dam it valve. wtf it is set float prop int that was from wcs how the fuckm= is this in zm. valve wtf just release a workoing game. this shit freezes and never restarts. I got to shit hewre all hours anfd watch it. I can not even hit the kjeys righgt and I can fix your game dam...

[mag36]

I sware even when I come back from the lcub I got the baby sit these servcer s\aftert this va;lve update. I have ghad tooi many drinks to watch this shit dam it valve. wtf it is set float prop int that was from wcs how the fuckm= is this in zm. valve wtf just release a workoing game. this shit freezes and never restarts. I got to shit hewre all hours anfd watch it. I can not even hit the kjeys righgt and I can fix your game dam...

Sounds like someone was having a good time.

[Carina]

I sware even when I come back from the lcub I got the baby sit these servcer s\aftert this va;lve update. I have ghad tooi many drinks to watch this shit dam it valve. wtf it is set float prop int that was from wcs how the fuckm= is this in zm. valve wtf just release a workoing game. this shit freezes and never restarts. I got to shit hewre all hours anfd watch it. I can not even hit the kjeys righgt and I can fix your game dam...



Sounds like someone was having a good time.

+1000 :wtg:

[ZERO]

yea until valcve rulined itr now back to party

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot partyyyyy

[devour]

Tone down? no your still playing against the same people, its just now more of a twitch shooter then it was before. (why I kick ass now :P)

precisely. the game is now closer to its predecessor. no more strafing precision firing either. the game was a dumbed down, nub friendly version of 1.6. now its a little bit closer to where it should have been from the start.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I sware even when I come back from the lcub I got the baby sit these servcer s\aftert this va;lve update. I have ghad tooi many drinks to watch this shit dam it valve. wtf it is set float prop int that was from wcs how the fuckm= is this in zm. valve wtf just release a workoing game. this shit freezes and never restarts. I got to shit hewre all hours anfd watch it. I can not even hit the kjeys righgt and I can fix your game dam...

we love you zero


Sounds like someone was having a good time.

and it's about fcking time!

[ZERO]

yea until valcve rulined itr now back to party

I do not even remember this post :lmao:

[maynard]

I do not even remember this post :lmao:

well at least you're finally having some fun on your vay-cay.

[StarsMine]

I do not even remember this post :lmao:

I just enjoyed trying to read those posts. have to read it half drunk:lmao:

[Kavinsky]

I think thats the first time we've ever seen Zero drunk AND trying to respond to the forums at the same time, thanks for the translation owns.

and what is the big deal with natural selection 2 anyways?
he's been going on about it for months.

[ZERO]

it is a great game not made by valve by a developer who does not try to fuck server admins over. I swear the shit last night was so laggy. I had to cut the power to restart the server. This rare freeze glitch is so stupid, it really only happens when I go out or can not reboot the srcds.

[StarsMine]

You know, some of us have told you multiple times to just stop working on this and keep your mind focused on vacation

[Kavinsky]

Hey it was impossible to get into the server without getting kicked along with 6 people as well for 20 minutes still it started bothering someone else, if he hadnt done anything the server would have been consistantly empty by the time he came back.

[mastercheff]

now i am su=tuc hwre and the servcers are broken jli .,m

Translation, Now I am stuck here and the servers are broken *illegible*.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

chill zero. seriously. go get drunk and don't look at the forums today.

also, thank you owns

[XX0wnsXY]

Translation, Now I am stuck here and the servers are broken *illegible*.

I read: I am such a whore and the servers are broken *illegible*

hahhaaha!

[ZERO]

I have tried to create a thread here: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=131341 to figure out what is causing the servers to freeze.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I have tried to create a thread here: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=131341 to figure out what is causing the servers to freeze.

there's a reply

[mcilwain]

is it the maps? "some days it will"
Probably some maps are bad for the update.

Because if all of them crash randomly it could be the maps.

[mastercheff]

I read: I am such a whore and the servers are broken *illegible*

hahhaaha!

:lmao:

[ZERO]

Well I got internet back but I can not get on the servers to add admins b/c I am now using a 3g modem to connect. As a result my ping is usually >2000ms and so connecting is impossible.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Well I got internet back but I can not get on the servers to add admins b/c I am now using a 3g modem to connect. As a result my ping is usually >2000ms and so connecting is impossible.

you need to be in-server? i though you could connect remotely.

[ZERO]

No I half to be in server to set the flags. ZM back up :wtg:

Also attempted a fix for the freezing lets see if this does anything...

[ZERO]

Rest assured we will continue to fix old and new CSS bugs. We want to retain the CSS gameplay experience that you know and love. We would also like to thank everyone reporting bugs and posting constructive feedback. This is an invaluable part of the process.

Oh how nice, maybe if you kept it in beta these problems would not mess up the actual game play until you release a fully working game :muffy:

[StarsMine]

GG the server will not change maps from the map vote, the only way is admin intervention or rtv

[ZERO]

And before the update it worked fine?

Is the map vote showing up? Or is it just not switching.

[ZERO]

valve changed the map end offsets because why not.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

valve changed the map end offsets because why not.

what does that mean?

[ZERO]

I have patched it but someone needs to reboot the server when the map ends so it takes effect

[ZERO]

crap satellite is out now i can not see the end of the game... noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[ZERO]

Mani has released an update to hopefully fix the reserved slot issue. Will update tomorrow night.

[ZERO]

also I posted a thread here about the srcds freeze problem: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1353896

[ZERO]

it would not be friday night or my last night in towen witout the servers going down. thanks valve!!!

[ZERO]

Back home now, servers will be updated tonight and admins activated ect.

[ZERO]

Servers will be updated soon.

[ZERO]

Hopefully the mani update will also fix the freezing server glitch...

[ZERO]

freed up about 60gb by archiving old server data. Now I am initializing the updated test beads from the server copy I did last night. Later today I also hope to update the website with the ability to log performance data on the servers. This will enable me to track how changes directly effect server performance as I work to decrease lag, crashes, and errors. Once I get the 3 servers rolling I can then dedicate all of my efforts to wcs.

[nightstrife]

Yey WCS rules!!!!!!!

[ZERO]

Updated mani gamedata to see if this stops freezes. May also fix reserved slot issue. Will take effect in the morning.

[OnEyEdMaN]

2270

pic related.


i fucking lalwed hard on this..didnt pay attention on this section coz i know that im just gnna get piss..thnks gawd i went..lol

[ZERO]

so... went to install the server quality monitor and the web server decided to ban me over it. Leaving me to believe that the entire site was down. So I will be finding another way to obtain the data lol.

[StarsMine]

so... went to install the server quality monitor and the web server decided to ban me over it. Leaving me to believe that the entire site was down. So I will be finding another way to obtain the data lol.

what? Why would they do that unless they have something to hide

[acolyte_to_jippity]

so... went to install the server quality monitor and the web server decided to ban me over it. Leaving me to believe that the entire site was down. So I will be finding another way to obtain the data lol.

is that why gametracker's not showing up?

[ZERO]

No this was to track things like the game servers uptime, fps, cpu and other data accurately to help measure the effects of changes and patches on the server in order to ensure the highest quality and performance possible.

[ZERO]

Gore!!!!!

[Fireye]

Any chance we can get handicaps back in gungame? It's a bit annoying to join 3/4ths of the way through a round, and start off with Para.

[StarsMine]

Any chance we can get handicaps back in gungame? It's a bit annoying to join 3/4ths of the way through a round, and start off with Para.

You know whats odd, I only have had it not work once. I always got the handicap, even more so then usual, I was in spectate at the beginning of a map, got on chose a team and got put on level 4

[ZERO]

I am still trying to get them to fix the reserved slots issue.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

You know whats odd, I only have had it not work once. I always got the handicap, even more so then usual, I was in spectate at the beginning of a map, got on chose a team and got put on level 4

yerah, it seems to be giving higher than server avg. i joined last night and had an mp5 when the leader was on mac10.

[Fireye]

yerah, it seems to be giving higher than server avg. i joined last night and had an mp5 when the leader was on mac10.

Lucky you for you, I've not had the handicap affect me once since the update.

[ZERO]

getting some strange missing model errors. Some how it is looking in the wrong place. No matter I will just copy the files. Once this is done hopefully I can get it to load up without es and then I can start working on actually getting that and wcs to load.

[Spasm]

Can we get rank fixed when you get time good sir?

[ZERO]

On what? It will never work ingame for gg again.

[Spasm]

On what? It will never work ingame for gg again.

for real :( that sucks. Why not??

[ZERO]

The stats that record correct gg data in that it takes levels and wins into account only works on the old version of psychostats. The makers of the ingame plugins only let it work on the new version and do not support the old one.

[StarsMine]

The stats that record correct gg data in that it takes levels and wins into account only works on the old version of psychostats. The makers of the ingame plugins only let it work on the new version and do not support the old one.

couldnt you recode it for the new version of phychostats?
on another note, phycostats has put me in the <|RAT|> clan because of that one time we were having fun with Ska. I cant fix that myself.

[ZERO]

It should base it off what ever tag you are seen using the most. If it detects another tag and you use that one more it will switch to that.

[StarsMine]

It should base it off what ever tag you are seen using the most. If it detects another tag and you use that one more it will switch to that.

oh... so I can just make up my own clan and play with a tag for 3 maps and it will change to that? ill try that sometime

[ZERO]

I think it is based off how many times you connect to the server with the name and how long your in there.

Anyways, I got the servers setup to be quality monitored and it is already making it easier to improve performance! So far I have noticed that the fps on the pub server is always lower than both the gg and the zm server. This is totally insane as the performance on the pub should be the best. So I have concluded that it is probably the plugin that deals with map changes that is causing this. As a result I will be working out a solution.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I think it is based off how many times you connect to the server with the name and how long your in there.

Anyways, I got the servers setup to be quality monitored and it is already making it easier to improve performance! So far I have noticed that the fps on the pub server is always lower than both the gg and the zm server. This is totally insane as the performance on the pub should be the best. So I have concluded that it is probably the plugin that deals with map changes that is causing this. As a result I will be working out a solution.

why not use the same one for all of them? for that matter, why not use one that allows us to see map votes on gg?

[ZERO]

Just like in rl, 1's and 0's do not always play nice.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Just like in rl, 1's and 0's do not always play nice.

are they different ones? the one used for wcs worked incredibly smoothly. i think you should put that one onto all the servers.

[mastercheff]

They just updated css so now we can view some older demos now. Just saying.

[ZERO]

Why did i delete them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why!

[Spasm]

I know that other gun game servers use something different then psycho stats for gun game, maybe you could try a different stat engine for gun game.

[ZERO]

would not take the stats into account the way ours does. Ours is specially modified for the best ranking possible.

Well I am done for today/maybe tomorrow. I really wanted to game all day but never got more then a few hours. The rest was my computer chilling on a load screen while I unload my brains in the shit can. So I am sick for now and hopefully better soon as I am going to the opera on friday....

[ricochet]

CS:S has been updated to it. As of 6:45 EDT, I couldn't connect to the pub!

stupid steam. how many freakin times are they going to update it?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[mag36]

Zero for warned i Updated my server.... and now i can connect! but if im in spectate its fine but soon as i join a team it crashes. Dont know why i disable mani and everything to try and figure a cause..... dont know what else to do but scrap the whole server i made and start from scratch maybe. Zero if you got any ideas let me know please

[ZERO]

Servers updating now. WTF did they change?

[ZERO]

My local copy's updated but the remotes will not update... fucking valve server in that state must be cluster fucked...

[ZERO]

I am trying to update my local zm version for testing...

[ZERO]

Ok it is something in mani that crashes it. Something that is on the pub and zm servers but not on gg.

[ZERO]

Fixed by updating game data. I think it was something with map changes as that is the only difference in mani between the 3 servers. Also they previously all used the same game data...

[ZERO]

steamworks_sessionid_server 0 0 The server session ID for the new steamworks gamestats.
steamworks_show_uploads 0 1 If set to non-zero, will show when submitting tables.
steamworks_stats_disable 1 0 If set to non-zero then no steamworks game stats will be used.
steamworks_immediate_upload 1 0 If set to zero the stats will only be uploaded at the end of the session. If set to non-zero, stats will immediately be uploaded. so wtf is this?

[Tailsy]

Well i figure update kept me from logging off for the past 2 weeks i try reinstalling counterstrike till the point of reinstalling steam after that it worked it was just funny with all the maps i download have start clean fresh again :/

[ZERO]

servers updated with a new package of mani that supposedly fixes the reserved slot issue.

[Fireye]

New update coming, hopefully soon, which will return weapon fire speeds back to their pre-patch values.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1368659

[acolyte_to_jippity]

New update coming, hopefully soon, which will return weapon fire speeds back to their pre-patch values.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1368659

what was so different? i didn't notice much

[Fireye]

what was so different? i didn't notice much

mp5 fires at a much slower rate. Supposedly the AK does as well, but I never really used the AK that much, so I don't notice it. It feels like an old-school 33tick server.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

mp5 fires at a much slower rate. Supposedly the AK does as well, but I never really used the AK that much, so I don't notice it. It feels like an old-school 33tick server.

both seem same as always. if anything i feel the ump was upped

[devour]

both seem same as always. if anything i feel the ump was upped

they "feel normal" when playing on faux 100tick servers, which the IBIS servers are.

on 66tick (where they're supposed to be) the firing rate on guns were slowed down a lot. very noticeable.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

they "feel normal" when playing on faux 100tick servers, which the IBIS servers are.

on 66tick (where they're supposed to be) the firing rate on guns were slowed down a lot. very noticeable.

...how is ibis servers "faux 100"

they are 100 tic servers

[ZERO]

I think that is the name of the person that made the 100tick mod? I can not remember.

Anyways it looks like they released another update. For now only the pub has been updated, the rest will follow as more is known about what has changed in this micro update. (I wish they would give a change log for these small updates)

[devour]

I think that is the name of the person that made the 100tick mod? I can not remember.

Anyways it looks like they released another update. For now only the pub has been updated, the rest will follow as more is known about what has changed in this micro update. (I wish they would give a change log for these small updates)

close! :D just an alias

[acolyte_to_jippity]

close! :D just an alias

soooo...it's the name of the person who made the 100-tic mod.

[ZERO]

Yet another valve update! Servers will be updated one at a time.

[ZERO]

servers updated

[Christmas]

servers updated

No they aren't.

[hallwagner]

No they aren't.

according to the gametracker, there are quite a few people in all the servers

[acolyte_to_jippity]

according to the gametracker, there are quite a few people in all the servers

you're retarded. those are bots