blackmage, tbh, as much as i hate agreeing with mikey ever, i will agree on ONE thing.
im actualyl starting to like this N0 start because let's face it... the day1 start every fucking game was reduced to the SAME conversation of "oh do we lynch or no lynch", " no lynching is not good, u must be scum for suggesting it" , "no im not i suggest it each game", "ok nevermind then, so who should we lynch", *5 days later*, "so who do we lynch????", "random vote", "not random vote but im voting X bcos fuck that guy", "tihi i vote Y bcos he voted me", etc.. Then some random idiot (usually a new guy, because lets face it, who will ever lynch a veteran day 1?) will get lynched with no actual info, and then night 1 starts.


Night 0 has the benefit of providing some info, in this case, the caroler actually hit a stalker from night 0.



Mikey, i know u're an idiot and dumb as fuck, but no, i wasn't COMPLETELY bashing ur game.
Notice how i joked at first that i was going to regret playing ur game , but with the events that happeend and our few talks on steam ,i told u " u know what? i'm actually liking this game for now" (around the time where brett called out nemesis).

So no. im not bashing the entire SETUP of your game, because let's face it, most of it was a rip off from some high rank game, which is fine, perfectly fine really. But i was only saying that because of the FORUM format, it didn't work out as much as it would have been had it been played on EM automatic system where RSing and other shit was easier to pull off.

The game is fine, and i KNOW u told me before privately how an agent would have been better if added to town after i specifically told u that a spy writing to a "Traitor" directly felt a bit op because of the cheer uselessness of having a traitor if immediately picked up by mafia.
and u AGREED with me, or i agreed with u, wtvr the point was : the setup was ok, IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER with a few tweaks, but it was OK at best.

Like sin said, perhaps with a few twists here and there, we can REPLAY that setup of urs.
Hell, if you give me PERMISSION, i would host the SAME setup, with perhaps 2-3 tweaks to it to see if it can work out differently.
If it does, then that means that the original core setup is fine, and u did fine, and it was the forums format that recked it.


Someone suggested an interesting "Tweak" on the spy.
and it was : if u are going to allow the EM version of spy (daytime talk, directly to traitor, etc), to actually force a post restriction where "if u decide to use ur abilities during a day phase, u are forbidden from writing in that same day phase".
This would use the same mechanics u had this game, but would also drop some interesting FOS at the quiet guy of being the spy. u know?
i mean it's just a suggestion, and it wasn't mine, i dnt know who said it, but i liked it.



anywho... all in all, losers will always bitch. i can bitch if i wanted to, but instead i WILL say that Sin outplayed me hard, and i have to give him props for that.
Hell when i died, i actually TALKED TO HIM asking him for tips and hints on where i did wrong and how he figured me out and where he outplayed me.

Just because i didn't actually say that publicly until now, doesn't mean that i am not willing to learn. I have said it a lot: i am NOT the best player around here in this game, nor will i ever claim to be, i tend to fuck up a lot, which is fine, because i only played like what? 3-4 games? but hosted all the others?
anywho, all in all, sin played gr8, i applaud him for that.

As for nemesis? just another case of him fucking up, losing his shit, blaming the mod, and then his team miraculously pull a victory and then nemesis claiming it as if he did all the work. THAT bothers me, i dnt care if i lose, i just hate when ppl who win claim they did all the work.


In the donner game , i won, and i nailed pass investigation from the start (u guys thought i was following him? but i was fuckin baiting him, hence why i investigated him u dumb fucks, then i voted trig on gut instinct on a line he said, cant remebmer what, but wtvr. then i called blade on his scummy suicide tell the nxt day... i was right woopty fucking do, i fucked up with mikey, and SIN saved the game. But u wont see me going "oh sin didnt do jack shit, i was the cop, i made the plays....
I fucked up in donner in the end, we won eitherway, but not bcos of me, that's why i was bitching about nem's "i am the god" attitude....

as for ur setup, it needed a few tweaks, but i am neutral about it now, it could have gone eitherway, and when we play this again, we will seee what happens.