Blade's Mafia Game of Randomness

[SCRIBBLE]

Wow two posts in a day! You're almost a real boy!!!! Fucking Cylon.

Three posts before this one. You can almost count.

[What]

I think reason is starting to crack through. Again and again you guys are trying to get people to do what you want by insinuating nearly any action they have is scummy. Lets take the vote train, Pass, you feel that since Cyber has not been hammered since the mafia don't want him to die. There are 5 people who were not on that train, thats a lot of Mafia. Sin says that this also shows the mafia is holding off, or is already on board, well that narrows it down doesn't it? That whole thing proves my point that trains garner little actual information other than allowing people to literally use the results to prove or argue anything they want.

No solid info, means we should treat the lynch as a tool to do that, and like Scribble said, its worth the gamble on a townie since numbers are on our side and it provides actionable information that makes the night and the following day much easier. As I said before, there is a method to my madness, as I showed last game and many times before. This is not a game of individuals, its a team game. If you're town and you die, but town wins, you win. That is the methodology I have been working with and you should too. Pass or Sin gives the most information, clearly I am leaning towards Pass. Stars has been very aggressive this game without providing a reason why, just wanting people to go with it. That is curious, but I do not see his death being as fruitful as the other two mentioned.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Vote Count:

Cyber : 3
Pass : 1

[Sin]

What I got out of that was that Scribble thinks Lightning Rod is still in play. Oh whale.

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Because me Stars and Pass are in cahoots with a plan derived during the night phase...

The WIFOM is rl

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Oh, nevermind he thinks it's Cyber now.

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Lol read his last sentence wrong. Disregard my cyber comment.

[Sin]

You're really saying too much at this point, Pass. If they haven't figured out what you are (like Cyber) then Idk what to say.

[What]

You're really saying too much at this point, Pass. If they haven't figured out what you are (like Cyber) then Idk what to say.

See its stuff like this, just misinformation and misdirection. All Pass has said, is that he is a guy who targeted someone with something. This is role maddness, that can literally apply to dozens of roles. As I said before 75% of us could probably truthfully say we can target someone with something. You keep trying to imply that Pass has been victimized into revealing too much by people who kept prodding. This just flat out is not the case. He offered information when it was not necessary, and he kind of just dropped it out there, knowing someone would ask for some elaboration. Normal game activities can help provide some potential information, but they should not be used as a bludgeon to get your way. Implying that Pass's role is so obvious only an idiot can't see it is just a way to try to dissuade people from asking questions and to trust in your judgement implicitly, which is antithetical to what a mafia game is. We need solid information, not rote arguments that do not track logically and are based on shadows.

[StarsMine]

holy FUCK we are still on the god damn fruit

I confirmed Sin wasn't lieing about fruit, Pass confirms neither of us are lying by disproving lightning. Pass if mafia had nothing to gain from that, would have been the easiest train to get rolling, day would be over already. I dont know what Pass's role is, never claimed it was obvious, what I can say is he is 95% town. he has provided enough information to show me that, without laying his cards down on the table, im sure he has more information(like his role), but that would require hard claiming and I dont see any reason to push for that. If we want to talk about aggressive plays, lets talk about you what, who is pissed for some reason that pass put down so much info, yet at the same time is trying to push him to do something, this baiting is obnoxious. Seriously.

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Im tired of going over the same damn point every single post to vindicate you or cyber.

As for brett: either mafia or has no information to provide, but at least he isnt metaing us to death, would like to see more of him.

And obviously, Pass, Sin and I are the master mafia pulling a convoluted night plan that could only match a cyber meta.

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Woah in me typing that, conferming I have information right, double conferming I have information right, Pass and Sin ninjaed me....

[Sin]

I don't see how it would be helpful to town to answer your questions. I gave you the only useful piece of information I had thus far.

What, I thought you were against there being a lightning rod anyway?

I doubt at this point that Sin is lying, as Stars backed him already.

Keep in mind that mafia is trying to gather information during this phase as well.

Mikey, you should listen to them and not talk for people. If what you are said is indeed what happened, I likely would say as much if I'm pushed close to a lynch over this (sharing the little information I have). Now, if that is what happened, and I tell the truth, everyone will think I just got it from you and thus not believe the truth. Such a great play from someone who is "pro-town".

This is the problem I have Pass, you said this seemingly out of the blue, and now you say that since Stars backed Sin, thats good enough to show he got something, yet at the same time you are now saying you do believe there to be a lightning rod in play. I can understand not wanting to give away too much too soon, but you opened that door when you said this and I am having hard time reconciling your two statements with eachother.

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Wait, I mis-read, so are you firm with there not being a lightning rod in play still now that you believe Sin to have gotten fruit?

Since Stars backed him up, yes. It woulda been easier to arrive at this if Sin would have just said that he wasn't a Rod in the first place, as that would have been pretty useful.

By this point it's obvious what Pass was softing in his earlier posts, but you persisted putting him further at risk.

Ok, I don't want to keep being this guy but I want to check, You presumably targeted someone for something. When you got the result of your night action, did you recieve a name confirmation or simply that your "target" did, or was, or whatever something. Cause if it is the latter then that could mean Sin is the rod, kinda wish he would back those two hams he is smuggling in here and just settle this shit once and for all.

I got a name. Before I made my first post saying that there was no rod or that Sin was lying, I PMed Blade to ensure what was said was correct and he confirmed that who he said was targeted was indeed targeted.

Ok, something still seems unsettling about that though, for know I'll just assume its due to your choice of wording. But, still, waiting for Sin-a-min to come in here and give his two cents. If he claims rod then we are going to have some decisions to make.

Continuing the pressure, which Cyber just kept reiterating like an idiot for 2 of his following posts afterwards.

Pass didn't offer up any information that you didn't ask for aside from the precise claim that he contacted the mod, but being seeing as how the pressure was on him it was warranted.

It's like you're being hardheaded just for the sake of it really. Pass wasn't being cryptic from the beginning.

[Passarelli]

What, I'm sorry I was impatient and didn't want to wait 4 days for Sin to answer my simple and direct question (which was a trap if he said yes) and I wanted to get the conversation off of Rod since there clearly isn't one. You say you don't like my wording, but you clearly didn't pay any attention to what I said--and if you did, continuing to push me is a horrible and scummy play.

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[Sin]

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about questioning things said. It's a townie reaction, but yours and Cyber's persistence took it to the next level. It's like you wanted Pass to tweet what he had for breakfast this morning and what color panties he's wearing.

Almost going TOO far in making yourself look town. You're not leading as much as you are fiddling with the gay monocle over your eye and twisting your 'stache while you nibble on almonds like a faggot.