Mafia Game: The Donner Party

[Trigger Unhappy]

God some of this is going over my head. So let me summarize and you can tell me if im correct.

The choice of kills is confusing to people, because both people chosen where not listed as veterans. Scrib was on my list of possible mafia, so i was surprised that he died. it makes me feel like the vig did take a shot... but some of you are saying that this is unlikey. If someone could explain that I would appreciate it. So basically if i had to point to who killed who.. I would say that maf killed pass (because i thought he was town), Vig or SK killed scrib because he was scummy.. My take at least.

On the subject of the lists... why would the request for lists be considered scummy?

[CYBER]

Cyber, this isnt like you. Typically you hawk eye these games and i wont take "im busy" as an excuse. We all know you work a 9-5 job in some Canadian factory.

I'm just bored out of my mind... it is somewhat because of real life, but at this point, i'm just bored.
Reason:
My "specialty" is to meta the game and focus on flavor text and the deaths announced to try to elaborate on what happened or what could possibly happened.
In this game, I feel and am useless overall, both literally and because of how no info is revealed (AGAIN, FFS nemesis i'm really hating the scum buffs and town nerfs in this -.-)

Pass... why did u have to die man -.-. You were my source of summaries in this game lol. Now i feel like i lost an important backup player in this -.-
I'd ask you what's cooking again at your place, but looks like someone interrupted your own popcorn time and made YOU the meal hahaha (it's a carnivore flavor joke, shut up im bored).

Scribble. I really really really hope you were a mafia and killed off by the SK. Just because it's hilarious how the ONE FUCKING time you weren't afk, you die. AFK-ness = wins. I should try that lol.

Sin, i have to give you props. Whether you are scum and leading the sheep, or genuinely pro town. You're doing an amazing job. You're the MVP so far this game, I hope u lead us to victory

Mikey, like i said before, i find your posts weird, but comparing you to what i thought of Zambi, i don't really think u'd be an SK.
Same for assassin and hoshiro about the SK. Their plays are weird, little to no input, but i know first hand that sometimes u cant be too active bcos of shit.
As for others, I am simply not getting any decent vibe.

The bigger question is: Did we lose VTs? or did we lose a power role? or did the mafia and SK kill off eachother or the vig etc?
I do believe that the vig would probably not eat on day 1 with little info, so i support whoever posted the list about possible scenarios at night ( was it blade or sin?), and that most likely it was a mafia and sk killing.

IMPORTANT:
I think i missed this part:
If we end up lynching a carnivore that ate another person. Do we ONLY get that carnivore's shit? or do we get access to his "storage" and get info on all those he ate?


anywho , i have no further information to give. Sin's doing a good job of posting very valid points and for now i don't see any flaw in this logic.
What i don't get is why sin and mikey keep argueing back and forth. they both presented good points but most of it felt like re-iteration of shit we already talked about... i'm not getting any more info for today... i don't know.


FUCK, i really wish we had better flavor texts. Nemesis give me a better mexican fiesta storyline ffs in next scene.
That and my own uselessness is becoming boring as fuck. I usually try to give my best no matter what, but im starting to understand why locust gets bored so fast or afks lol.

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wait minjae is in this game? LAWL.
i completely forgot him and hoshiro were still playing at this point...
Damn i've been busy and afk and a tad bored, but goddamn people, that's hilarious that u've been abnormally quiet.

[BladeTwinSwords]

This game honestly just fucks over the Mafia way too much. They have absolutely no powers and only 2 members. The SK on the other hand, is retarded overpowered. All he has to do is act town sided and fuck with everyone. The Town has the Vig which is lightly nerfed, the Dietician which is a slightly nerfed Cop, and the Roleblocker, which is...a Roleblocker.

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No wonder the Mafia never win.

[CYBER]

LOLOL That flavor text.

Also I'm assuming the Vig either decided on NOT taking action, someone picked the correct person to roleblock, or 2 of the 3 cannibal factions ate the same fucking person.

You sick fucks.

i was wondering where that damn post was :
THERE IT IS.

Scenario 0:
If we lynch a carnivore, do we get his previous meals?


scenario 1:
if X and Y attacked Z same night.
Do BOTH X and Y gain Z's info?


Scenario 2:
If X and Y attack eachother. Do they both die? then what happens to their info? is it released or lost for good?

Scenario 3:
If X and Y attack eachother, but at the same time, Z ate one of them (x or y).
Does Z get BOTH X and Y's info? or just the one he attached? seeing as technically, X gets Y's shit, and Y gets X's shit and Z gets ALL the info that one of them collected?

Scenario 4:
Does the roleblock block the mafia KILL? or just any skill like investigation or vig kill? Bcos i know nemesis has this annoying idea and thinks that the "faction" kill is not roleblockable... Which it IS normally on mafiascum. But i dont know if this applies to carnivore games...


I'm curious, because i'd like to know how much info is genuinely shared on those nights, and how the roleblocker could have affected night 1 actions, if it actually hit a valuable person.

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This game honestly just fucks over the Mafia way too much. They have absolutely no powers and only 2 members. The SK on the other hand, is retarded overpowered. All he has to do is act town sided and fuck with everyone. The Town has the Vig which is lightly nerfed, the Dietician which is a slightly nerfed Cop, and the Roleblocker, which is...a Roleblocker.

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No wonder the Mafia never win.

wait what?
Mafia almost ALWAYS wins in ibis...
it's sad.

But i genuinely thought that in fact, the SCUM was more overpowered than town...
they can TALK during DAY. and discuss shit... deaths at night arent revealed...

the sks almost always get some form of protection for 1 night just to avoid the luck of the draw, but dont forget that when they dnt die, or when someone doesnt die at night (bcos roleblock), it raises suspicion as to how the SK was alive that night and they get FOS'd in game... i see that a bit fair.and the mafia can discuss shit and play it during day and lynch ppl they want...


Town only has a couple nerfed roles... the vig cant kill randomly unless dumb, the nutritionist (cop) has no information whatsoever from previous deaths to go about his investigations and roleblocker can backfire on town...

i still think the game is scum sided... what are u smoking?

[CYBER]

I thought i voted:
Vote: Blade.

Because he thinks mafia side harder when it isn't.
He must be mafia to feel mafia pain :P

(hope that made sense. YAYYYY i managed to meta something !! WOOT)

[BladeTwinSwords]

I thought i voted:
Vote: Blade.

Because he thinks mafia side harder when it isn't.
He must be mafia to feel mafia pain :P

(hope that made sense. YAYYYY i managed to meta something !! WOOT)

Dammit, even Cyber's figured me out! Welp, Town's won this game.

[Sin]

Dammit, even Cyber's figured me out! Welp, Town's won this game.

You're a faggot.

Cyber all of your questions were answered in the sign-up thread, but I'll do your lazy ass a solid and copy/paste for you:


-When a Cannibal night-kills someone, they take the body and put it in their larder, resulting in no role/alignment reveal to the town for that kill. The Cannibal who performed the kill learns the role/alignment reveal via their result PM.
-If a Cannibal night-kills another Cannibal, they take all of the bodies their target had, learning all the role/alignment information their target knew. This will include their target's night-kill target from that same night, if applicable.
-If more than one Cannibal night-kills the same target, they will all learn the target's role/alignment information. They will not learn that their target was killed multiple times.
-If two Cannibals night-kill eachother, and are not in turn night-killed by yet another Cannibal, their role/alignment information, and that of all the bodies they possessed, is revealed to the town.
-The Cannibal mechanic has no effect on lynches. The role/alignment of the lynchee is always revealed to the town. If a Cannibal is lynched, the role/alignment information of all their bodies is also revealed.

If the Cop got a guilyy/cannibal on someone they should be pushing for a lynch on that person. Not telling you to out yet but just be creative.

-Hoshi
-Minj
-Phil
-Assassin

You're up faggots, let's go. Contribute. Who am I missing?

[Assassin]

I'm really confused by those kills is well, although I think Blade's post is rather odd, I think he's the vig because of the him not caring part (they get a one shot right? He might have used it and missed and is now a VT). As for the rest, tbh idk...Sin you're pretty much town to me, the rest haven't posted enough for me to make a decision.

[Sin]

Alright, it seems we have a lot of people who are confused about the possibilities of what happened during the Night phase, so I'll break it down by Role.

Mafia Goons:
- Only one mafia member can make the kill, and unless they're stupid they DEFINITELY made an action last night.
- May have targeted the Serial Killer, therefore missing in their kill because of the SK's 1-Shot (NightKill) Immunity
- May have been Roleblocked
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (SK and Vigilante)

Serial Killer:
- More than likely killed someone
- May have been targeted for either a Kill or a Roleblock = Doesn't matter they're Immune for a night.
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (Mafia and Vigilante)

Town Vigilante:
- More than likely made no action
- May have been Roleblocked
- May have targeted the Serial Killer, therefore missing in their kill because of the SK's 1-Shot (NightKill) Immunity
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (SK and Mafia)

Town Roleblocker:
- Targeted a Mafia and stopped a kill from happening.
- Targeted the SK and broke the SK's Roleblock immunity.

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With this information, as town, what we have to go off of is the possibility (hope) that the Vigilante DID make an action and targeted the Serial Killer. Why is this good information? Because it confirms who the SK is. Although, honestly the SK should honestly be helping town at this point, we'd still need to know to rule out potential Mafia suspects.

Yes, there's the possibility that the Vig was RB'd which wouldn't net him any information either, but if the RB targeted anyone remotely towntelling, it's their fuck up.

Serial Killer, do you have anything you'd like to share with us?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I'm really confused by those kills is well, although I think Blade's post is rather odd, I think he's the vig because of the him not caring part (they get a one shot right? He might have used it and missed and is now a VT). As for the rest, tbh idk...Sin you're pretty much town to me, the rest haven't posted enough for me to make a decision.

1. Blade is not vig. As per his words.
2. Vig can shoot every night.

@sin. Af hit sk or sk and maf hit same target. Vig shot last night.
That is my conclusion.