Playwithme and the tyrant

[StarsMine]

I have to do that at times, though its usually its alt tabing, disconnecting internet, reconnecting, and then hoping I did it fast enough where my game did not disconnect.

[brett friggin favre]

I have to do that at times, though its usually its alt tabing, disconnecting internet, reconnecting, and then hoping I did it fast enough where my game did not disconnect.

if it happens often enough to even be mistaken for rank manipulating, it's happening way too much. also, note his past:

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans...490062&Submit=

one ban from anex for general exploit, one for disconnecting to avoid a ban. seems to me he likes to use that disconnect feature to cover his ass, why not use it to up his rank?

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

this, to me, is a typical bullshit ass lying response. re-establishing your connection doesn't do shit. all it does is (from my understanding) help you evade zombies as human, or let you change to play zombie. as steamer stated in the unban thread, whether it's meant by you or not it is rank manipulation.

i'll withhold my judgement on the ban itself, i wouldn't have the authority to push either way anyways. just wanted to make sure that didn't slip by unnoticed.

since i don't know much about connections too a server, when playing with pootie on the same ip we sometimes have too re-connect / dc too the server to re-establish our connections. It sometimes allows the other too join without closing the connection from within the server.

[T3h tyrant]

55000 - i disconnected before zombies even coming for me appeared onto my screen, shortly after i rejoin you can see me clearly frustrated with the humans on the map.

Tick 54000(use first person) Holy attempts to grab the lightsaber; being unsuccessful, he moves toward the room’s exit. There, two predators are in clear view and well within his field of vision; he promptly stops short and disconnects by user, successfully avoiding a tag. You had only stopped moving (to press your escape key) after you saw the zombie. One of the preds had his parachute deployed and the other’s shadow was in plain sight. An experienced player such as yourself can easily spot a predator class zombie, huge parachute deployed or not. Holy reconnects to the server shortly. I warn him that he will be sitting out the next round as punishment for disconnecting from zombies. Holy ignores me. When Holy attempts to spawn with the zombies, I promptly slay him. Holy asks for an explanation, but rather than listen, he makes his own assertions, pointedly denies any explanation that I provide, and proceeds with disrespecting me and other players in spectate; claiming that we are pussies and suck too much to play escape maps, the sorts, etc. At this point, Pl@y gags him.

(Rest of the demo) Pootie joins, and we see Holy’s words (and insults) being channeled through him. If you can insult us through Pootie, then you can easily explain to Pootie whatever you said that earned you the gag. Is it that hard to tell him that you were persisting to insult and egg us on? Thus, we left Pootie’s inquiries unanswered, as he seemed to be slightly aware of the situation, but like Holy, somehow found that his existence required better reasoning than “disrespect.”

Now for the cake. Rank manipulation and avoiding the tag process on mako_reactor
Tick12800: Holy reconnects after his connection failed from the previous round. However, rather than join a team, he intentionally stays in spectate. 16 seconds pass, and the first zombies spawn. Holy follows suit 5 seconds later (tick 13900)
His connection fails later that round, and he reconnects at tick 20,000. From there, he stays in spec yet again, waiting the 22 seconds for the zombies to spawn. This time, his spawn is timed milliseconds after the first zombie spawned (intentionally waiting to use zspawn). His connection fails again at 25,400.
Tick 27000: Holy reconnects to the server just as the round ends and stays in spectate. He waits in spectate for 29 seconds; once again, he spawns as soon as the first zombies are selected (tick 30,000). However, this time, he disconnects by user at 37,700, and reconnects as the next round starts (38,000). He waits 26 seconds in spectate, and then spawns with the alpha zombies. Pl@y promptly kicks him at 41000. From tick 42800 on, Holy argues with me and Pl@y. Holy shows that he knows his zspawning on escape maps is boosting his rank insanely as he remarks “scared that I’ll get my rank too high>?” and argues that he is playing as a zombie for “fun.” I warn him to stop spawning as a zombie, to which he replied by repeatedly denied that he was manipulating and claimed that me and Pl@y were wrong because he couldn’t possibly be manipulating just because he says he’s playing zombie for “fun.” Holy continues to go on with his denials and at one point speculates that he will be spawning as a zombie every round and that he could make another account to do just that. I issue a third warning to not spawn late. Pl@y gags him at tick 55,900 for his dogged insistence that “he was not doing anything wrong” and persisting to argue with us. Holy revives the deathstar issue on the mic, asking me what kind of demos I had of him disconnecting from zombies. I only figured out a part of what he said as there was another player talking over Holy, and at the time, the mics in server were cutting out on me. Pl@y mutes Holy, to which he replied with a disconnect. He was then banned for 1440 minutes for circumventing the gag and the mute. This ban was later upgraded for disrupting the tag process and manipulating rank.

You had more than enough time to spawn as a human and buy your weapons. Your spawning at the same time as the first zombies was timed and was no coincidence. The repeated use of zspawn to join illegally was intentional.

A player may not, by any means, bypass the tagging process to continually play as a zombie

Any form of rank manipulation will not be tolerated

As a player who’s been a part of the community for years, as a ZM regular with nearly 1000 hours, and as a former admin you should know the ZM rules. You often quote the rules to other people in server, yet you fail to respect admins as well as other players, you refuse to accept the verdict of the authorities in server, you place yourself above an admin’s punishment, and you have blatantly abused the zspawn feature. This is nothing different from what Hallwagner did late last year.

[Steamer]

Please bring this to attention to clan (Anex may like to deal with this one). Place ban thread and poll in the appropriate sections. I have yet to see one go for rank manipulation, would love to see the results.

Rank Manipulation. /

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Tick 54000(use first person) Holy attempts to grab the lightsaber; being unsuccessful, he moves toward the room’s exit. There, two predators are in clear view and well within his field of vision; he promptly stops short and disconnects by user, successfully avoiding a tag. You had only stopped moving (to press your escape key) after you saw the zombie. One of the preds had his parachute deployed and the other’s shadow was in plain sight. An experienced player such as yourself can easily spot a predator class zombie, huge parachute deployed or not. Holy reconnects to the server shortly. I warn him that he will be sitting out the next round as punishment for disconnecting from zombies. Holy ignores me. When Holy attempts to spawn with the zombies, I promptly slay him. Holy asks for an explanation, but rather than listen, he makes his own assertions, pointedly denies any explanation that I provide, and proceeds with disrespecting me and other players in spectate; claiming that we are pussies and suck too much to play escape maps, the sorts, etc. At this point, Pl@y gags him.

(Rest of the demo) Pootie joins, and we see Holy’s words (and insults) being channeled through him. If you can insult us through Pootie, then you can easily explain to Pootie whatever you said that earned you the gag. Is it that hard to tell him that you were persisting to insult and egg us on? Thus, we left Pootie’s inquiries unanswered, as he seemed to be slightly aware of the situation, but like Holy, somehow found that his existence required better reasoning than “disrespect.”

Now for the cake. Rank manipulation and avoiding the tag process on mako_reactor
Tick12800: Holy reconnects after his connection failed from the previous round. However, rather than join a team, he intentionally stays in spectate. 16 seconds pass, and the first zombies spawn. Holy follows suit 5 seconds later (tick 13900)
His connection fails later that round, and he reconnects at tick 20,000. From there, he stays in spec yet again, waiting the 22 seconds for the zombies to spawn. This time, his spawn is timed milliseconds after the first zombie spawned (intentionally waiting to use zspawn). His connection fails again at 25,400.
Tick 27000: Holy reconnects to the server just as the round ends and stays in spectate. He waits in spectate for 29 seconds; once again, he spawns as soon as the first zombies are selected (tick 30,000). However, this time, he disconnects by user at 37,700, and reconnects as the next round starts (38,000). He waits 26 seconds in spectate, and then spawns with the alpha zombies. Pl@y promptly kicks him at 41000. From tick 42800 on, Holy argues with me and Pl@y. Holy shows that he knows his zspawning on escape maps is boosting his rank insanely as he remarks “scared that I’ll get my rank too high>?” and argues that he is playing as a zombie for “fun.” I warn him to stop spawning as a zombie, to which he replied by repeatedly denied that he was manipulating and claimed that me and Pl@y were wrong because he couldn’t possibly be manipulating just because he says he’s playing zombie for “fun.” Holy continues to go on with his denials and at one point speculates that he will be spawning as a zombie every round and that he could make another account to do just that. I issue a third warning to not spawn late. Pl@y gags him at tick 55,900 for his dogged insistence that “he was not doing anything wrong” and persisting to argue with us. Holy revives the deathstar issue on the mic, asking me what kind of demos I had of him disconnecting from zombies. I only figured out a part of what he said as there was another player talking over Holy, and at the time, the mics in server were cutting out on me. Pl@y mutes Holy, to which he replied with a disconnect. He was then banned for 1440 minutes for circumventing the gag and the mute. This ban was later upgraded for disrupting the tag process and manipulating rank.

You had more than enough time to spawn as a human and buy your weapons. Your spawning at the same time as the first zombies was timed and was no coincidence. The repeated use of zspawn to join illegally was intentional.




As a player who’s been a part of the community for years, as a ZM regular with nearly 1000 hours, and as a former admin you should know the ZM rules. You often quote the rules to other people in server, yet you fail to respect admins as well as other players, you refuse to accept the verdict of the authorities in server, you place yourself above an admin’s punishment, and you have blatantly abused the zspawn feature. This is nothing different from what Hallwagner did late last year.

You take the time to make a post and it looks like this i haven't been in middle school... this should be good, lets begin.

DEATHSTAR
- You established that you have slayed me for "disconnecting" to avoid being tagged. In doing so, you cannot add the avoiding being tagged apart of a later (in which you did, which is abusing admin + going against the admin rules)

- You claim that i called you pussys and that you were too bad that you couldn;t play escape maps. From your stats and map playing history that is more then likely true, ITS NOT WHAT I SAID. You can see in the ingame chat i said that you sit in spectate because "your bad and can only play pussy cade maps". You got the wording mixed up and have now been caught lieing about what i said and have yet too provide that i have disrespected you or any admin. Must feel pretty stupid you couldnt even comprehend a small statement such as that, instead you twist it into your corner. ( abusing admin + going against tos )

- I got gagged for no reason on deathstar with no warning ( abusing admin ) and when pootie came in; he was at his desk across the room and all i ask him too do was ask why i got gagged, which you couldn't even respond. You just now acknowledged in your post he was their and yet you didn't answer him? You say I channel my insults through him? please it doesn;t take much to insult you or playwithme, it's clearly pretty easy... Again accusations with no proof. What proof do you have i deserved a Gag? you have non, nor ever gave me a warning that you were going to do so. (abusing admin powers + lieing again )

so far i have seen that you make shit up to favor your corner, provide some PROOF i disrespected you. You cant say that i disrespected you and cant provide solid proof. (since their isn't any in either demo) Playwithme abused her admin by gagging with no warning, and you disrespected me and pootie by insulting our sexuality "pooties butthurt that his boyfriend is muted". Seems that you are the one disrespecting, seems pretty funny that i can provide evidence and you cant so far.

MAKO

- You have to prove i was rank manipulating after the warnings you have given me. Even in you post you emphasis that you gave me 3 warnings (bolded) and i eventually joined spectate too take a smoke break for a bit. Since I was trying to make a point in the server and you couldn't let me without gagging me, ill quote the post that i was trying to refer to you on the server.

Let me explain: Maybe someone doesn;t wanna be a human, and only likes to be a zombie. So he only plays and joins to be a zombie every round.

Does that make him a rank whore? No.

If i created a stream account just to be a zombie, would that make someone a rank whore?

No, just someone who likes to play as a zombie.

As i said, you need PROOF i was rank manipulating. WERE IS IT?

Just because i type certain things in game doesn't mean i am going to do them. You speculation comes from your mentality since you are a classic rank whore.

- As for the gagging + mute: WHAT exactly did i doo to deserve these? I got gagged and muted for no reason. You still havent provided the reasons why you guys did either of these when i clearly knew i did nothing wrong so i disconnected to come in and ask why i was being abused.

For the kicking and banned, they should have never happen in the first place. You both have abused admin and have been caught on demo. I did nothing wrong; obvious biasness from the admins as to why i got banned. They also did not follow the tos rules and lied too make their claims true.

Don't respond unless you have evidence, you both have abused your adminship and within 24 hours have no claims besides me joining a server and joining zombies when they spawn. After being warned i stopped. (I could argue how vague the rules are since if someone new came into the servers, read our rules, theirs no were within them that specifies to what can be consider rank manipulation and what is/is not allowed when becoming a zombie.)

So their goes anything you could have possibly have banned me for (besides avoiding a false gag+mute which shouldn't have been issued without warnings anyways ). Again your both liars and have been caught in the act, show me your EVIDENCE. All people have to do on my behalf is watch the demo's and their is clearly nothing i did wrong to deserve any of these things. (besides a slay when i "disconnected from a zombie") You even acknowledge i know the rules and yet at the same time your informing me on them? You also said i failed to mention something, when i provided clear evidence for people to view themselves. You contradict yourself too much and your argument is beyond weak, something i expected from playwithme.

[christopher]

re-establishing your connection doesn't do shit.

naw. SM and the source server client resolve players on STEAMID and MAC address. If they were using the same router, then it'd trip a network flag or some other validation mechanism since routers use an independent MAC address to represent a client to a host. so that supports his dual client claim.


re-establishing your connection actually does do shit. it corrects time differences in the network rate and error checking. ever connect to the zm server and hear gargled Voice Chat? that's due to net rates being different from broadcast to listen

[Bane of Soldiers]

naw. SM and the source server client resolve players on STEAMID and MAC address. If they were using the same router, then it'd trip a network flag or some other validation mechanism since routers use an independent MAC address to represent a client to a host. so that supports his dual client claim.
re-establishing your connection actually does do shit. it correct time differences in the network rate and error checking. ever connect to the zm server and hear gargled Voice Chat? that's due to net rates being different from broadcast to listen

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

Which wouldn't of happen if my connection didn't close, when i was finally warned i stopped.

As i said, ill message upper admins / clan members to deal with this non-sense. I sense some biasness in this community and people possibly joining into a "groupthink" to protect one another and spread lies.

[christopher]

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

not at all. it validates his claim that his originally disco'ed due to another playing/joining under the same MAC address and NOT to 'rank manipulate'. You'd know that IF YOU READ ALL POSTS FROM BOTH SIDES.


tbh HOLY can be annoying, but i have reasonable doubt that he purposely tried to 'rank manipulate'. after watching the demos and playing with him, as well as understanding where he is coming from, i still carry that reasonable doubt.


also, everyone knows that pl@y is a whiny bitch of an admin when people don't follow his borderline power-abusive orders. i had problems with him before i became an admin, so i can see why HOLY wouldn't respect his authority and disco'ed after being gagged.



edit: sorry, pl@y is just a whiny bitch in general