Constitutional Rights

[Jeimuzu]

The more guns the more deaths because of it. We had pretty good discussion yesterday on nl tv and we basically all agree. America still lives with the tough they need to defend themselves against terror attacks and think everyone needs to own a weapon. Especially most mid south states. The time great Britannia ruling is over, 200 years over but still people are clinging on that law made back then. It is the mindset of the people of america that need to change, like someone else said very nicely, like what happens with marten luther king, accidents where needed to change the mindset of the american people, and these accident recently might do it again. although i highly doubt it. Here in europe we almost have no weapons compared to the usa. and here the conflict with it is like 200% lesser that is a fact.

So i think america should look into the mirror and deep into it, why can we do it here without and why can the Americans not do it. It is the state of the mind.

Where you get your facts?.. Mass shootings have decreased, the media just blows the ones that do happen out of the window. Go watch Canadian news for a day, you'll see why they have less violence and crime. The only crimes coming with guns involved are the ones from criminals though, and the mass shootings are normally stopped by citizens who are armed. On average, only 2-4 people die when a citizen steps in, but it's more around the area of 20 people waiting for police to get there. Criminals don't exactly follow the laws. But there's one thing I'll agree with Obama about: The way wars are fought is changing. Biological and chemical weapons are more threatening than an invasion of people with guns.

But what they're doing is trying to punish lawful Americans by taking away freedom we've had and functioned with for years.

[StarsMine]

There was a segment on the daily show last night that showed how handcuffed the ATF is because of gun nuts and the NRA. Someone who cares should post it.

That was a well done segment.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...ssica-chastain

[Jeimuzu]

That was amazing Star.

[StarsMine]

I like how one of the executive orders obama signed was to give the ATF an actual director.
And people fliped out that he was signing executive orders taking their freedom away...

[Meltdown]

It is a constitutional right for Americans to own firearms, not to protect themselves from terrorists.. but to allow the citizens to defend themselves from a tyrannical government. The reasoning behind these proposed bans is due to politicians blaming the item used to kill rather then holding the individual accountable. A criminal is a criminal, criminals break laws. Creating new laws will not prevent them from breaking them. If a deranged mentally ill person wants to kill people, he will do so. That will not change by outlawing firearms. You not only have your punch line facts wrong, you do not understand how a ban like this would effect this country. Police men and women to soldiers who swore an oath to protect our constitutional rights will not stand idly by while the government takes them away.

I leave you with this to think about...

If you hand wrote a nasty letter to your boss that resulted in you getting fired from your job, was it your fault or the pens?

This is where your wrong. but i guess you will never understand why.

U guys are being filled with information that ain't right, you just believe what u want to believe. I don't need to proof anything, hell i care if you guys shoot your own people. All i can tell we got it much and much better here in Europe.

[StarsMine]

.... again there are many places in europe more violent then the US. Violent crime... is not common in the US, just that the violent crime in the US commonly has guns.

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Violent crime... is not common in the US.

Are you sure you want to stand by that statement?

[Penis シ]

The 2011 arrest rate for violent crimes was 172.3 per 100,000 inhabitants; for property crime, the rate was 531.3 per 100,000 inhabitants.
By violent crime offense, the arrest rate for murder and non-negligent manslaughter was 3.5; forcible rape, 6.3; robbery, 34.5; and aggravated assault was 128.0 arrests per 100,000 inhabitants.

But it IS important that this does NOT include Assault 1, which is violent crimes not committed with a weapon that result in serious bodily injury. These crimes are much more numerous.

[StarsMine]

Are you sure you want to stand by that statement?

compaired to other first world countries, yes. we were something like 14th for violent crime. first in gun violent crime, but violent crime as a hole is comperitivly not that common here as they are elsewhere.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This is where your wrong. but i guess you will never understand why.

U guys are being filled with information that ain't right, you just believe what u want to believe. I don't need to proof anything, hell i care if you guys shoot your own people. All i can tell we got it much and much better here in Europe.

you are not even an american, nor do you line in america. So before you start spouting nonsense with your extremely hard to read shit poor english. Read our constitution. I understand that you feel all fire arms should be taken away but just because your to much of a sissy nanny to hold a fire arm, should not ruin it for the rest of my country. Stay involved with your own socialist affairs and leave the grown up world powers alone.

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you are not even an american, nor do you line in america. So before you start spouting nonsense with your extremely hard to read shit poor english. Read our constitution. I understand that you feel all fire arms should be taken away but just because your to much of a sissy nanny to hold a fire arm, should not ruin it for the rest of my country. Stay involved with your own socialist affairs and leave the grown up world powers alone.

P.S. you do realize Europe as a whole has a higher gun crime rate then america, right?


---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 PM ----------

you are not even an american, nor do you liv
e in america. So before you start spouting nonsense with your extremely hard to read shit poor english. Read our constitution. I understand that you feel all fire arms should be taken away but just because your to much of a sissy nanny to hold a fire arm, should not ruin it for the rest of my country. Stay involved with your own socialist affairs and leave the grown up world powers alone.

P.S. you do realize Europe as a whole has a higher gun crime rate then america, right?

p.p.s. I apologize for the triplet post, the internet out here in Afghanistan where i am fighting to protect those rights you wish my country had never had for 200+ years, is shit poor slow.