2013, A Space Mafia

[Chikun]

...i wonder how we know. because this is quite suspicious. mah info be...interesting.

I say we lynch Brett. He's usually mafia anyway and it will prove Cyber's claims.

[taz1stP]

i say we kill mass still

[CYBER]

I say we lynch Brett. He's usually mafia anyway and it will prove Cyber's claims.

lol...
why do you think I picked Brett to confirm me?
He's been mafia sooo many times before that the odds of him being mafia now are very slim, hence why i figured he'd be a gd person to vouch for me as opposed to someone new to the mafia business.
So I don't think lynching him is the best way to go.
Then again if he dies as a townie, at least i'd be confirmed publicly...

All I know is that I can't tell what he is...
He can vouch for me, but I can't vouch for him.
I can confirm with you or aco or anyone you guys want when night 2 shows up.

Also, the cop can investigate me tonight if they don't trust me or brett.
Well, brett would be the 2-for-1 choice obviously, bcos if he's town, i'm town. but when you see that I'm town, it says nothing about brett.

Not to mention that if our firefighter is not paying attention, he might omit to protect me from burning tonight, and the cop's investigation would be useless...
@So again, firefighter, pay attenion, and make sure u cover my ass tonight because that would guarantee no burning on night 2, either by failing to burn me, or by dousing someone else... giving us another night to find him.

@Which brings me to the cop, the arsonist is a priority now because he's most likely gonna douse 2-3 people and ignite, taking down a chunk of us in 1 blow.
How many people he might douse first? The more people he can douse without being under the radar, the more he will. Since it will waste him another night to get his process running again to kill someone else.

Also, If we have a @ staple Roleblocker, keep track of who you're blocking. Because we can use you to find the arsonist (and possible mafia too)

If someone gets doused at night, announce immediately the next day, because we want to know if the arsonist did his action at night .
Since, if we have a roleblocker, and a night passes where someone is NEITHER doused nor burned, then that means our roleblocker actually blocked the arsonist, and he'll need to call it out fast as a priority so we can lynch him asap.

I'm saying all this because I might not survive the night given that it will depend on the firefighter protecting my ass as my only savior -.- .... so i'm putting a plan in motion if im not here to help out...

@@Mikey, all I can ask you is to please pay attention to what you write before you do it, because some people here are new and easily mislead if you analyse wrong.
I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt, and I hope I survive the night to confirm with you, aco, or chikun or anyone showing any doubts about this gd plan.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lol...
why do you think I picked Brett to confirm me?
He's been mafia sooo many times before that the odds of him being mafia now are very slim, hence why i figured he'd be a gd person to vouch for me as opposed to someone new to the mafia business.
So I don't think lynching him is the best way to go.
Then again if he dies as a townie, at least i'd be confirmed publicly...

All I know is that I can't tell what he is...
He can vouch for me, but I can't vouch for him.
I can confirm with you or aco or anyone you guys want when night 2 shows up.

Also, the cop can investigate me tonight if they don't trust me or brett.
Well, brett would be the 2-for-1 choice obviously, bcos if he's town, i'm town. but when you see that I'm town, it says nothing about brett.

Not to mention that if our firefighter is not paying attention, he might omit to protect me from burning tonight, and the cop's investigation would be useless...
@So again, firefighter, pay attenion, and make sure u cover my ass tonight because that would guarantee no burning on night 2, either by failing to burn me, or by dousing someone else... giving us another night to find him.

@Which brings me to the cop, the arsonist is a priority now because he's most likely gonna douse 2-3 people and ignite, taking down a chunk of us in 1 blow.
How many people he might douse first? The more people he can douse without being under the radar, the more he will. Since it will waste him another night to get his process running again to kill someone else.

Also, If we have a @ staple Roleblocker, keep track of who you're blocking. Because we can use you to find the arsonist (and possible mafia too)

If someone gets doused at night, announce immediately the next day, because we want to know if the arsonist did his action at night .
Since, if we have a roleblocker, and a night passes where someone is NEITHER doused nor burned, then that means our roleblocker actually blocked the arsonist, and he'll need to call it out fast as a priority so we can lynch him asap.

I'm saying all this because I might not survive the night given that it will depend on the firefighter protecting my ass as my only savior -.- .... so i'm putting a plan in motion if im not here to help out...

@@Mikey, all I can ask you is to please pay attention to what you write before you do it, because some people here are new and easily mislead if you analyse wrong.
I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt, and I hope I survive the night to confirm with you, aco, or chikun or anyone showing any doubts about this gd plan.

you are stupid, truly. bretts chance of being mafia is the same % as any buddy else, regardless of his roles in past games. It also looks very suspicious for you to be maknig a "im town" claim with brett, at the same time trying to redirect a possible firefighter to use his ability on you.

If i was the fire fighter, i would not waste my night action on you for the following reason. You claimed role is useless. If the fire fighter lets you burn, we can confirm 100% that there is an arsonist. Or we can confirm you are a liar.

a side note, follow the cop style is a pretty successful style of play when there is a chance there might be mafia plus anti town. I never suggested any one reveal now either. As we are not sure whether or not you are lying. If you are lying, we can play follow the cop, if you are not lying, its obvious we should not risk it.

[brett friggin favre]

i agree that cyber's firefighter protection demand is suspect. but we have to consider a few things:

arson isn't too common,and claiming to have been doused is surely dumb unless it actually happened:
a. if there's no arson, no firefighter, wtf is he doing? gotta be mafia...
b. claiming he was doused makes no sense usually...he'd know that, so claiming that would be pretty dumb.
c. there are only 3 ways we see that he would know there's an arson:
(1) he's a role cop, and inspected one or the other. but then he wouldn't have been able to confirm himself to me.
(2) he is the firefighter or the arson. which he isn't, because again, he wouldn't have been able to confirm himself to me.
(3) we are mafia, the arson is mafia (which as we've seen is a dumb idea) and i'm in cahoots with him.
(4) his claim is true, he's been doused and is a friendly neighbor.

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i see i listed 4 ways after saying i'd only list 3. i apologize.

[Chikun]

i agree that cyber's firefighter protection demand is suspect.

There's nothing suspect about it if you confirmed him as town... Why would he lie about something like that if he's town?

He wouldn't.

Night 2 is going to provide the most information provided our investigator isn't killed and is being smart about who this person investigates.

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There's nothing suspect about it if you confirmed him as town... Why would he lie about something like that if he's town?

He wouldn't.

Night 2 is going to provide the most information provided our investigator isn't killed and is being smart about who this person investigates.

He's been mafia sooo many times before that the odds of him being mafia now are very slim, hence why i figured he'd be a gd person to vouch for me as opposed to someone new to the mafia business.

I too once thought this and it lead to him convincing the town to lynch me.

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Why did that quote myself?

[brett friggin favre]

There's nothing suspect about it if you confirmed him as town... Why would he lie about something like that if he's town?

He wouldn't.

exactly, he wouldn't. it's suspect if you're not me because i'm the only one he confirmed to. but i can't expect to say he's town and have everyone just be like "Well ok then i guess those two are just peachy keen!"

how dense are you?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

There's nothing suspect about it if you confirmed him as town... Why would he lie about something like that if he's town?

He wouldn't.

Night 2 is going to provide the most information provided our investigator isn't killed and is being smart about who this person investigates.

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I too once thought this and it lead to him convincing the town to lynch me.

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Why did that quote myself?

assuming cyber is not kia, he can simply send another message out to myself or you for example. The more who confirm cybers messages at night, the more believable his story is. This opens up the cop to make an investigation on someone other then brett or cyber. Ofc course this is all rolling on the chance that what cyber is saying, is in fact true.

If the arsonist is mafia again, he could actually be the arsonist. In attempts to keep douses going, he deflects the fire fighter onto himself, saving him an extra night to make a kill.

[Chikun]

exactly, he wouldn't. it's suspect if you're not me because i'm the only one he confirmed to. but i can't expect to say he's town and have everyone just be like "Well ok then i guess those two are just peachy keen!"

how dense are you?

I'm curious as to why you keep creating an air of mysteriousness around Cyber if you know the truth.

I'm well aware that Cyber could be full of shit but that would mean you as well. This leads to why I'm saying the second night will be interesting because if he's "revealing" himself to only mafia buddies he has no choice but to name them in the thread to stall suspicion long enough while the cop only needs to investigate one to flush out everyone. Like I said, the second night is going to be interesting.

[brett friggin favre]

I'm curious as to why you keep creating an air of mysteriousness around Cyber if you know the truth.

I'm well aware that Cyber could be full of shit but that would mean you as well. This leads to why I'm saying the second night will be interesting because if he's "revealing" himself to only mafia buddies he has no choice but to name them in the thread to stall suspicion long enough while the cop only needs to investigate one to flush out everyone. Like I said, the second night is going to be interesting.

i'm not creating any mystery, are you fucking retarded? i'm saying if you buy our story, then we're clear. i'm also providing logically based evidence as to why you should believe it as opposed to alternatives. i'm going through every possibility outside of the given story. i'm fucking removing any mystery there might be and you're acting rather suspect if you ask me. of course you know if you lynch me today and i turn up town, as i will, you'll feel pretty fucking dumb.