WCS Rules

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This. It goes under exploitation.

Then would this also apply to players who meta game with scrolls?
Respawning with a scroll after speccing the players who are still alive. Ex. A t dies early game, specs a few cts and sees that they are in T spawn. T then proceeds to scroll because T knows the exact location of all the enemies now.

[i2o4]

Then would this also apply to players who meta game with scrolls?
Respawning with a scroll after speccing the players who are still alive. Ex. A t dies early game, specs a few cts and sees that they are in T spawn. T then proceeds to scroll because T knows the exact location of all the enemies now.

Now, this I don't think I've ever done, but even if a T decided to scroll as shadow hunter and drop wards on a CT in T spawn after seeing him there from spec, I think it would be allowable. But then again, what do I know? I used to rejoin after dying early in my first round simply because I have a superstition against starting a map with a negative score, and I didn't think there was anything wrong with that either.

[brett friggin favre]

Scrolls cost a bunch and youre still respawning in your own spawn, so unless the enemies are there they could move before you get to them anyway. Also no matter what when you scroll, you know where enemies were when they killed you.

The scroll is an extra life combined with an expensive radar essentially.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i only bring it up again as there have been some changes made to the server that essentially allow a losing team, for ex. 15 - 0 to buy a scroll for virtually nothing 10 times in a round. Perhaps limiting the numbers of scrolls a player can purchase each round.

[maynard]

I prefer it this way... now the losing team can't QQ =)

[brett friggin favre]

I prefer it this way... now the losing team can't QQ =)

Unless it's cyber. As long as there's cyber, there will always be QQ

[jwtemp]

unless it's cyber. As long as there's wcs, there will always be qq

ftfy.

[i2o4]

i only bring it up again as there have been some changes made to the server that essentially allow a losing team, for ex. 15 - 0 to buy a scroll for virtually nothing 10 times in a round. Perhaps limiting the numbers of scrolls a player can purchase each round.

minor detail, but the losing team gets a maximum 75% shopmenu discount when down by 15 rounds, so $15k buys 8 scrolls at $1875 each. i think scrolls are fine as is, especially considering that by the time scrolls get that cheap, the map is usually almost over. and if they're scrolling without other items like laces against a dominating team, they're usually just an easy extra kill anyway.

regardless, it's almost inspirational when a losing team refuses to be defeated and repeatedly rallies back from the dead in the final rounds. even if they still don't manage to win a round, it can be a stirring sight.

[maynard]

Then would this also apply to players who meta game with scrolls?
Respawning with a scroll after speccing the players who are still alive. Ex. A t dies early game, specs a few cts and sees that they are in T spawn. T then proceeds to scroll because T knows the exact location of all the enemies now.

pretty sure I already explained this 2 you, but no, that's not against any rule.

[CYBER]

Then would this also apply to players who meta game with scrolls?Respawning with a scroll after speccing the players who are still alive. Ex. A t dies early game, specs a few cts and sees that they are in T spawn. T then proceeds to scroll because T knows the exact location of all the enemies now.

SCROLLING or respawning after speccing enemies is perfectly fine and NOT exploit or ghosting. It's part of the allowed wcs mechanics, and if someone is in same spot after someone scrolls and hunts him, he deserves to die nway

---------- Post added at 07:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 PM ----------

minor detail, but the losing team gets a maximum 75% shopmenu discount when down by 15 rounds, so $15k buys 8 scrolls at $1875 each. i think scrolls are fine as is, especially considering that by the time scrolls get that cheap, the map is usually almost over. and if they're scrolling without other items like laces against a dominating team, they're usually just an easy extra kill anyway.regardless, it's almost inspirational when a losing team refuses to be defeated and repeatedly rallies back from the dead in the final rounds. even if they still don't manage to win a round, it can be a stirring sight.

i agree. It gets a bit overwhelming sometimes, especially if the GOOD player joined the losing team to rack his kdr with these scrolls.... But it's fun to watch. And zero said he's implementing a fix that prevents players from exploiting the cheap items handicap by making the discount per loosing PLAYER, not team. So the stacking T that joins ct after 10 rounds for cheap items will not get a discount until HE has lost rounds WHILE on that losing team

---------- Post added at 07:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:08 PM ----------

Unless it's cyber. As long as there's cyber, there will always be QQ

hey fuck u! And fuck ur sig with wolf's quote!