004 Night Elf [0] v1.0.9

[Blackmage]

Cyber: no, only until the ulti goes away. Also, given the CD of the flight skills is nigh instant, there's no real cost.

Jip: If you're hit while in flight, it "removes" them right away, but will come back when you land, if roots aren't done. But I don't see why they should trump the "not able to move" when the point of roots is to stop the speedy things from running.

Hmm, should check vaga, spidey and human too.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Cyber: no, only until the ulti goes away. Also, given the CD of the flight skills is nigh instant, there's no real cost.

Jip: If you're hit while in flight, it "removes" them right away, but will come back when you land, if roots aren't done. But I don't see why they should trump the "not able to move" when the point of roots is to stop the speedy things from running.

Hmm, should check vaga, spidey and human too.

one of the counters to nightelf and athena's ult. is the fact that flying races (not teleporting races) can escape instantly

[Blackmage]

One other thing, about roots, you now have to get your target in a forward arc instead of just hitting anyone in the radius. Haven't seen root hit more than one person either.

I still don't follow this, when one of the main uses for this ability is countering speed. Why would a counter for the ability be what it is supposed to counter? But if this is what zero will, so be it. I REALLY don't get, flavour wise, why teleporting would NOT get away, and flight would.

A funny note: if vaga/spidey uses their ult while tangled, they keep the momentum when the tangle goes away

[acolyte_to_jippity]

One other thing, about roots, you now have to get your target in a forward arc instead of just hitting anyone in the radius. Haven't seen root hit more than one person either.

I still don't follow this, when one of the main uses for this ability is countering speed. Why would a counter for the ability be what it is supposed to counter? But if this is what zero will, so be it. I REALLY don't get, flavour wise, why teleporting would NOT get away, and flight would.

A funny note: if vaga/spidey uses their ult while tangled, they keep the momentum when the tangle goes away

speed != flight.

speed is flame pre, undead, suc. hunter, spiderman...

flight is flight. bash is your best friend against flight, since bash (at least it use to) make them drop from the sky

[Blackmage]

As you seem willing to ignore and/or create your own facts, I shall concede the point.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

As you seem willing to ignore and/or create your own facts, I shall concede the point.

what exactly o you mean? vines was never a counter for flight races. they have ALWAYS been able to escape easily.

also, != means "not equal"

[Blackmage]

At least Stone was a counter for flight. As I had remembering them being the same except for range and duration, I assumed that Vines were the same.

Yes, I know what != means. The problem was, != is misleading at the best. While they are not the same sets, for Ibis at least, the flight set is COMPLETELY contained in the speed set. Speed may not be flight, but flight IS speed.

[ZERO]

1.0.6

• Confirmed CODE is 100% same as 1.0.5

[ZERO]

Race reprograming started.

Wow this thing is a clusterfuck...

if(!W3HasImmunity(victim,Immunity_Skills) && Math_GetRandomFloat( 0.00, 1.00 ) <= 30)
                {        
                    War3_DamageModPercent(TrueshotDamagePercent[skill_level_trueshot]+1.0);

Yes your reading that correctly due to an error it looks like this race currently has 100% trueshot damage. However as we get no feedback as to what was done who knows if that ability really did ever work at all. So the fix is going to be a buff or a nerf but I guess we will find out.

You all see now why I am just making all of them from scratch, when on my code base they are much much easier to read and bug fix.

[ZERO]

New version has been placed on the test server. Ultimate and effects are not yet programed.