Supernatural Mafia

[Nemesis]

Idk why, but I guess they think that the deputy may have been a Traitor to town. And nope that's all we know, because you faggots lynched Stan. Fucking idiots.

Yup, should have lynched you like they were told. Oh well, as long as they learned for next time.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Town deputy is not the cop, he is who inherits the cops role if the cop dies. There is still a cop, the flavor text provides us with that clue. Seeing as how stan died before the n8ght time, there has to be a cop.

[phil.™]

Nem and sin both seem scummy. You guys are going at each other, and only each other. Could be a reversal play, where you two are actually working with each other?
Regardless, night 1 kill for 3rd party 2 games in a row, some luck aye?

[Nemesis]

What is wrong with your fucking i?

[Sin]

Hey Nem, go for another wagon if you think it's best, waste another day.

[phil.™]

i don't know, i'm asian.

[Sin]

And yes Mikey we know what the Deputy role is, I was saying the reason why they believe Stan to have been mafia "aligned". Traitors gonna trait.

[Sin]

Here's a little Flavor text research:


Night descends on the town, and people start getting busy.

“Now’s our chance to start to even things out don’t you think?”

“Of course…..divide and conquer after all, with just enough confusion, perhaps we will be getting some help with that.”

“So, now prove your loyalty, go to that stuffy professor, he doesn’t seem to be sitting with the rest.”

In the show Pestilence says that the sole purpose of disease is to "divide and conquer". Since Lucifer was the one controlling the Horsemen he needed them to "prove their loyalty". So the first person talking is probably Lucifer, and the second Pestilence. Pestilence DOES have telekinesis, so maybe he's the one that killed Brett and not a Demon; see: http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Pestilence

Imma do some more digging.

[Nemesis]

I'm not watching Twilight, Fuck you.

[Sin]

I've never seen the show either. Your refusal to delve into the wikia is SCUMMY AS FUCK. HANG THIS FAGGOT!

[Nemesis]

I've never seen the show either. Your refusal to delve into the wikia is SCUMMY AS FUCK. HANG THIS FAGGOT!

Reading Twilight makes you as much of a homosexual as watching it. You and Mikey the Sparkle Princess can hold each others assholes as much as you want.

[Sin]

If you were town aligned you would do everything you could to get as much information out to the rest of us as possible. Your indifference is noted.

[Nemesis]

If you were town aligned you would do everything you could to get as much information out to the rest of us as possible. Your indifference is noted.

It's still a good idea to lynch you. It doesn't seem like anyone is smart enough to see so we'll let them faff about. You can lead a nigger to watermelon, but you can't make him steal it.

[Sin]

So make your vote then, you scalawag you. You're not bringing anything else to the table, might as well.

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Wait that makes me wonder. Is their a role that can only vote on someone who's been voted on?

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Reason I ask is because Nemesis didn't place his vote on me day 1, just kept trying to get everyone else to, and as soon as someone voted on Stan, he immediately voted on him.

[kionay]

sam sin your willingness to call nem out as scummy is pretty damn impressive

why so eager?

also if it were lucifer i'd imagine him talking differently, in my head it sounds more like a crowly kinda line

also let's make sure we don't read TOO much into what What puts down, and start finding clues that aren't there :-/

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*damn* not *sam*

there is actually a good reason not to make this typo, being a character named sam could be about....i am not saying sin is sam -_-

[Sin]

Why point out MY eagerness and not Nems as well? Know something we don't Kionay?

[phil.™]

Sin is actually making some pretty damning evidence right now.

[Sin]

Also on the point of "not taking what What says seriously", then what's the point of having the flavor text? If it isn't there to give us clues if we read between the lines then all Mafia games should have none. It should just read "Night 1: Brett Died. The End."

What's the fun in that? I kind of like the idea of having those quotes as something to go off of. Now when What makes a post about a certain person like Stan, yeah shouldn't read too far into that, but flavor text? That's part of the immersion. A good mod, would give us clues and leads, otherwise all the info we have to go off of is what happens during the day and what people say, which is a bit disconcerting at best.

[Nemesis]

otherwise all the info we have to go off of is what happens during the day and what people say, which is a bit disconcerting at best.

You mean the whole point of the game? Ya let's get rid of that.

[Sin]

I didn't say let's get rid of it, idiot.

[Nemesis]

I didn't say let's get rid of it, idiot.

My god you're either retarded or scum, it's not even close.

[Old Bastard]

Sin you should be an attorney if you aren't already because damn you drive some good points and are really convincing. Im still not gonna vote yet, but I'm leaning towards Nem.

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Not to mention Nem is really playing different as opposed to last game, almost in a more cautious way, rather than putting in more efforts on other people. Strikes me kind of odd, to say the least.

[Sin]

My god you're either retarded or scum, it's not even close.

That's all you ever say dude. You don't bring ANYTHING to the table. NOTHING.

[Nemesis]

Sin you should be an attorney if you aren't already because damn you drive some good points and are really convincing. Im still not gonna vote yet, but I'm leaning towards Nem.

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Not to mention Nem is really playing different as opposed to last game, almost in a more cautious way, rather than putting in more efforts on other people. Strikes me kind of odd, to say the least.

Would you like me to call you a fucking retarded nigger who is incapable of decisive thinking? I could easily do that. I mean, I know you would run and cry, but I could do it, if you'd like.

[kionay]

Why point out MY eagerness and not Nems as well? Know something we don't Kionay?

i'm talking about as of day 2 nem didn't seem too eager while you pounced right the fuck on him
day 1 you two were at eachothers throats, nem calmed the fuck down a bit, day 2 starts, you call nem scummy, he calls you scummy (like day 1 all over again) then you proceed to go for the jugular

i mean unless there is some deep problems between you to then by all means bicker like an old married couple and call eachother racial slurrs till you're blue in the face
but ffs figure out who else is scum and let's lynch the motherfuckers (not that we need to be told)


Also on the point of "not taking what What says seriously", then what's the point of having the flavor text? If it isn't there to give us clues if we read between the lines then all Mafia games should have none. It should just read "Night 1: Brett Died. The End."

What's the fun in that? I kind of like the idea of having those quotes as something to go off of. Now when What makes a post about a certain person like Stan, yeah shouldn't read too far into that, but flavor text? That's part of the immersion. A good mod, would give us clues and leads, otherwise all the info we have to go off of is what happens during the day and what people say, which is a bit disconcerting at best.


don't put words in my mouth now, i didn't say not to take What seriously, just meant to take it with a grain of salt

you're interpreting 3 words "divide and conquer" as flavor text meant to give us clues as to who said it, where there IS the possibility that the flavor text is a more bland flavor

just saying... don't see something that isn't there because you want it to be there, that's all, when we jump to conclusions deputies get killed :(

[Sin]

Would you like me to call you a fucking retarded nigger who is incapable of decisive thinking? I could easily do that. I mean, I know you would run and cry, but I could do it, if you'd like.

More filler bullshit from Nemesis.

[Old Bastard]

Say what you will Nem but fingers are starting to be pointed at you.

[Nemesis]

Only from the inept. Those who know nothing, plus they're in small enough numbers that you could easily be the mafia.

[Sin]

just saying... don't see something that isn't there because you want it to be there, that's all, when we jump to conclusions deputies get killed :(

And who jumped to those conclusions? And who was against it?

[Nemesis]

And who jumped to those conclusions? And who was against it?

Exactly, everyone should have listened to me and lynched you like I said. Then we'd still have our deputy and have lost nothing.

[Sin]

i'm talking about as of day 2 nem didn't seem too eager while you pounced right the fuck on him
day 1 you two were at eachothers throats, nem calmed the fuck down a bit, day 2 starts, you call nem scummy, he calls you scummy (like day 1 all over again) then you proceed to go for the jugular(

Go back a couple pages. Where Nem states that you should have lynched me. :)

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Exactly, everyone should have listened to me and lynched you like I said. Then we'd still have our deputy and have lost nothing.

YOU VOTED FOR STAN YOU IDIOT!

[Nemesis]

because you ran your nigger mouth! You fucked up everything and are too stupid to notice it, or too scummy to care.

The VTs exist as protection for the real players. Your job is to die so that those who can take actions win. Instead you create a shit storm that has been nothing but anti-town from the start. Solely because of you a Town power role has been lynched. The blame it at your feet and you. are. wrong.

[Old Bastard]

Well the fact that Nem is acting scummier than usual and Kionay is trying to vouch for him turning the spotlight back on Sin seems scummy as well.

[Nemesis]

We haven't heard a thing from half the players here because you wont shut your nigger mouth and are doing the mafia's job for them, if you're not with them in the first place. Everyone is happy to sit back and watch you fuck everything up.

[kionay]

If you were town aligned you would do everything you could to get as much information out to the rest of us as possible. Your indifference is noted.

well he's fucking nemesis, even last game as town he was an asshole, his indifference isn't to the game it's to you, you think someone that hates you will act all nice because it's a game?


Sin is actually making some pretty damning evidence right now.

what damning evidence? the only evidence sin has is that nemesis fucking hates him, we know this all too well by now


Sin you should be an attorney if you aren't already because damn you drive some good points and are really convincing. Im still not gonna vote yet, but I'm leaning towards Nem.

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Not to mention Nem is really playing different as opposed to last game, almost in a more cautious way, rather than putting in more efforts on other people. Strikes me kind of odd, to say the least.

good points my ass, has everyone gone insane? sin is just repeating different variations of the same thing "sin hates nem, nem hates sin" it's like a bad soap opera


Go back a couple pages. Where Nem states that you should have lynched me. :)

that's part of what i meant by "you called him scummy he called you scummy"


Well the fact that Nem is acting scummier than usual and Kionay is trying to vouch for him turning the spotlight back on Sin seems scummy as well.

nem is acting like the racial slur spilling asshole he always is, i don't want another townie lynched just because he's an asshole (though i'd have said differently last game >.> )
what "facts" are there he is acting scummier? is being an asshole scummy? because he was scummy as hell last game (though you could argue we should throw that out because last game isn't this game blah blah)

all i see is a lot of name calling and finger pointing from everyone, without any real hard evidence which we so desperately need

the only 'evidence' for action i've seen so far is from nem and sin accusing eachother based on how they hate eachother, that's not evidence, that's a childish fued

[Nemesis]

Hey Everyone! I found out a few roles! Sin is a Mafia Pirate, which makes Old Bastard his Parrot! The Parrot's job is to just mimic whatever Sin says without thinking for himself! I think we've cracked the code.

[kionay]

Hey Everyone! I found out a few roles! Sin is a Mafia Pirate, which makes Old Bastard his Parrot! The Parrot's job is to just mimic whatever Sin says without thinking for himself! I think we've cracked the code.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fozzie-facepalm.gif

can we get actual information for the first time in several pages?

[Old Bastard]

By Nem being scummier than usual, I mean he has done nothing but target what he knows are town aligned people. But the fact that he refuses to target anyone else other than Sin is kind of damning in his own, because Nem is one to target anyone really. And on a side note, we havent heard near as much out of Blackmage this game as we have the last one and he strikes me as one of those people that if town aligned will frequently post his opinions. But I can count his posts this game on one hand. Care to respond to that Blackmage?

[Sin]

because you ran your nigger mouth! You fucked up everything and are too stupid to notice it, or too scummy to care.

The VTs exist as protection for the real players. Your job is to die so that those who can take actions win. Instead you create a shit storm that has been nothing but anti-town from the start. Solely because of you a Town power role has been lynched. The blame it at your feet and you. are. wrong.

So because I made sense when saying that you wanting to lynch me was scummy, you chose not to vote for me? I agree I should have kept my role quiet and baited the mafia to NightKill me by saying I was a cop or something, but that's boring. This is more interesting.

It's funny you pointing the blame towards me, when YOU were one of the votes to lynch Stan. My job is to use voting, intent, analysis of posts, etc... to help town win the game. You continuously pointing your finger at me, when you've stated MULTIPLE times that I am what I claim to be. At least 1/2 or 1/3 of us are VT's. Your "fear" of hitting a potential power role with a day 1 lynch was misguided. That's an argument people who beg for "NoLynching" use, and you're definitely not one of those people.

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Kionay, Nem and I don't hate each other. You turning this into some kind of personal thing between us is a little ridiculous. Everything I've been saying has been relevant to THIS game. And how are my points NOT good? Why are you defending Nemesis so adamantly now, but DAY 1 you were up in the air about him? What have you learned?

I'm not saying Kionay is scummy, I'm just curious now because his tune has changed. Thinking possible Investigation on NEM, Night 1, gave you some info?

If so, hmmm...

[kionay]

By Nem being scummier than usual, I mean he has done nothing but target what he knows are town aligned people. But the fact that he refuses to target anyone else other than Sin is kind of damning in his own, because Nem is one to target anyone really. And on a side note, we havent heard near as much out of Blackmage this game as we have the last one and he strikes me as one of those people that if town aligned will frequently post his opinions. But I can count his posts this game on one hand. Care to respond to that Blackmage?

i do seem to recall blackmage having a lot to say, each post, with many posts

i'd like to imagine everyone pays complete attention to the game at all times, but i guess the validity of that we'll have to get from blackmage


he strikes me as the kind to talk a lot, no matter what side he is on, using his posts to steer town against eachother if he's mafia, but i'm still new so i will leave that as more of a guess :-/

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Kionay, Nem and I don't hate each other. You turning this into some kind of personal thing between us is a little ridiculous. Everything I've been saying has been relevant to THIS game. And how are my points NOT good? Why are you defending Nemesis so adamantly now, but DAY 1 you were up in the air about him? What have you learned?

I'm not saying Kionay is scummy, I'm just curious now because his tune has changed. Thinking possible Investigation on NEM, Night 1, gave you some info?

If so, hmmm...


you don't hate eachother? what in the actual FUCK are you talking about? i don't even.. this doesn't compute, the way you two talk, either you're lieing or you two have the strangest relationship i have EVER seen, seriously goddamn

like i said several times before your points are always based on nemesis, and with you and nemesis at eachothers throats your points are religiously "nem did this at this at this point when i did this" you two are always back and forth, but you spotlight nem's reply to your actions or words as reasons to be scummy

my tune changed when your "reasons" for someone being scummy were based off of childish bickering (at least that's what it seemed like to me)

nem could be mafia just as well saying you're VT because he gives about as good information as you do, but you seem much more adept at pointing things out that aren't well and good usefull
you seem to be better at bandwaggoning and i thought it seemed like something either mafia would do, or a townie with an attitude, i'm still very much up in the air about both of you, but you seem more willing to lynch, while he seems more willing to call you a nigger (along with everyone else -_- )

you love to see whatever you want, it would seem, i just don't want people to start backing you based on your... hallucinations? we need FACT, cold. hard. FACT. to go off of, to make the right lynch, to not lose another fucking power role -_-

[Nemesis]

By Nem being scummier than usual, I mean he has done nothing but target what he knows are town aligned people. But the fact that he refuses to target anyone else other than Sin is kind of damning in his own, because Nem is one to target anyone really. And on a side note, we havent heard near as much out of Blackmage this game as we have the last one and he strikes me as one of those people that if town aligned will frequently post his opinions. But I can count his posts this game on one hand. Care to respond to that Blackmage?

That's because Sin is wrong. He is either playing bad or is scum. He's doing everything possible to harm the town and continues to do so. Also, I haven't targeted a single Townie, Sin simply stated he's a VT. Is that all it takes to convince you? He made his move either in error or to make it look like he wasn't scum but either way everyone made a mistake by not listening to me and Lynching him day1.



So because I made sense when saying that you wanting to lynch me was scummy, you chose not to vote for me? I agree I should have kept my role quiet and baited the mafia to NightKill me by saying I was a cop or something, but that's boring. This is more interesting.

It's funny you pointing the blame towards me, when YOU were one of the votes to lynch Stan. My job is to use voting, intent, analysis of posts, etc... to help town win the game. You continuously pointing your finger at me, when you've stated MULTIPLE times that I am what I claim to be. At least 1/2 or 1/3 of us are VT's. Your "fear" of hitting a potential power role with a day 1 lynch was misguided. That's an argument people who beg for "NoLynching" use, and you're definitely not one of those people.

Yes, you are "suppose" to use those to help the town, yet you're doing everything possible not to. I've stated it multiple times and I will continue to do so, you are either retarded or scum and either way you're a detriment to us all.

[Passarelli]

I still think that we might want to look in another direction.

Sin not bussing Stan points to him not being scum. This could have been part of his plan if he were mafia however.

Nemesis appearing as the most scummy day 1 and then the cop not finding answers seems to point to him being a townie also. This is only a good argument if you think the Cop investigated him, which I see as fairly likely. Who do you Vets think the cop would have investigated last night?

What do you think about Mikey so far? Instead of breaking my logic as to why we shouldn't lynch Stan he decided to insult me and he just didn't reply when I called him on it. That was a little suspicious to me.

I'll be gone again for most of the day, but hopefully I'll be back before midnight tonight.

[Nemesis]

Kionay, Nem and I don't hate each other. You turning this into some kind of personal thing between us is a little ridiculous.


If you got cancer I would forget you existed after three weeks.

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What do you think about Mikey so far? Instead of breaking my logic as to why we shouldn't lynch Stan he decided to insult me and he just didn't reply when I called him on it. That was a little suspicious to me.


No that's just Mikey. He doesn't use logic to solve problems.

[Passarelli]

Also, the data was pretty much ruined because of the "policy lynch".

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No that's just Mikey. He doesn't use logic to solve problems.

Good to know, thanks! That's all I have for now, I'd like to hear from the people that haven't posted yet and I have to leave anyway so I'll finish my thoughts when I get home tonight when a little more information might surface.

[kionay]

That's because Sin is wrong. He is either playing bad or is scum. He's doing everything possible to harm the town and continues to do so. Also, I haven't targeted a single Townie, Sin simply stated he's a VT. Is that all it takes to convince you? He made his move either in error or to make it look like he wasn't scum but either way everyone made a mistake by not listening to me and Lynching him day1.

what is "everything possible"? early claiming isn't damning either, and even if he is playing poorly, if we find a difinitive mafia then sin's vote could be neccessary

can you provide facts without speculation?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I still think that we might want to look in another direction.

Sin not bussing Stan points to him not being scum. This could have been part of his plan if he were mafia however.

Nemesis appearing as the most scummy day 1 and then the cop not finding answers seems to point to him being a townie also. This is only a good argument if you think the Cop investigated him, which I see as fairly likely. Who do you Vets think the cop would have investigated last night?

What do you think about Mikey so far? Instead of breaking my logic as to why we shouldn't lynch Stan he decided to insult me and he just didn't reply when I called him on it. That was a little suspicious to me.

I'll be gone again for most of the day, but hopefully I'll be back before midnight tonight.
Perhaps you should go back a few pages and read. Thats generally something people do when they play these games... read. I didnt want to lynch stan and waited for an ample amount of time before going with that option. I wanted him to reply to all the talk going on, something he did not do.

as for sin and nem, I dont think either of them are mafia.. at lwast not yet. I would also venture to guess that kion is the cop due to his sudden change in behaviour towrds nem.

perhaps we push some afkers to talk, its the same 5 people talking atm, wheee the hell is everyone else.

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Perhaps you should go back a few pages and read. Thats generally something people do when they play these games... read. I didnt want to lynch stan and waited for an ample amount of time before going with that option. I wanted him to reply to all the talk going on, something he did not do.

as for sin and nem, I dont think either of them are mafia.. at lwast not yet. I would also venture to guess that kion is the cop due to his sudden change in behaviour towrds nem.

perhaps we push some afkers to talk, its the same 5 people talking atm, wheee the hell is everyone else.
Also, stop acting like stan was confirmed town, he qas not, he never claimed, the odds of him being mafia were just as high as going after and lynching any other person.

[Sin]

If he were mafia or a major town power role What would have gotten a substitute for him. Let's not kid ourselves. He would have been a plain VT like me until the Cop was killed. We came to that conclusion based off of What's actions, regardless of how he tries to paint it. If he had been quiet about it and let it play out then Stan's innocence would have been in question.

We know Brett was quick to jump the gun on the vote train, not so much Blade though. And Blade's been pretty AFK this game, other than to reiterate shit people have already said AND place that vote on Stan.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Nemesis appearing as the most scummy day 1 and then the cop not finding answers seems to point to him being a townie also. This is only a good argument if you think the Cop investigated him, which I see as fairly likely. Who do you Vets think the cop would have investigated last night?


I would have actually expected the cop to investigate sin instead. until today he was WAY more suspicious than nem.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Alrighty, lunch break time. Cyber made us think Stan was a useless.

For Day 2, I'm holding my vote until everyone has said their part.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

If he were mafia or a major town power role What would have gotten a substitute for him. Let's not kid ourselves. He would have been a plain VT like me until the Cop was killed. We came to that conclusion based off of What's actions, regardless of how he tries to paint it. If he had been quiet about it and let it play out then Stan's innocence would have been in question.

We know Brett was quick to jump the gun on the vote train, not so much Blade though. And Blade's been pretty AFK this game, other than to reiterate shit people have already said AND place that vote on Stan.
A deputy is a critical role. It ensures you can continue on when the cop dies and allows the cop to claim sooner if he finds crippling evidence.

[Sin]

What are you talking about? Cyber was with me on not "policy lynching" Stan.

[phil.™]

I just got a text from scribbs, he is currently unable to get an internet connection and will be inactive for a while, something came up and he will be active a bit later.

[Sin]

A deputy is a critical role. It ensures you can continue on when the cop dies and allows the cop to claim sooner if he finds crippling evidence.

Wouldn't say critical. Deputies are rarely used, but makes me wonder why What chose one. As a balancing mechanic maybe? Think we might have an insane Cop?

And I realized a typo in my post since I was on my phone: "We know WHY Brett was quick to jump the gun on the vote train, not so much Blade though. And Blade's been pretty AFK this game, other than to reiterate shit people have already said AND place that vote on Stan."

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I just got a text from scribbs, he is currently unable to get an internet connection and will be inactive for a while, something came up and he will be active a bit later.

Hmm... he's still showing up as online on the forums.

[What]

Kionay, You edit one more post and you are gone, regardless of how minor it is.

[kionay]

Kionay, You edit one more post and you are gone, regardless of how minor it is.

i updated? i thought that was what i was supposed to do so i didn't change anything i actually said?

how do peple update without editing? do they not post? or delete and repost? is there a forum function i've glazed over this whole time?

[Sin]

i do seem to recall blackmage having a lot to say, each post, with many posts

i'd like to imagine everyone pays complete attention to the game at all times, but i guess the validity of that we'll have to get from blackmage


he strikes me as the kind to talk a lot, no matter what side he is on, using his posts to steer town against eachother if he's mafia, but i'm still new so i will leave that as more of a guess :-/

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you don't hate eachother? what in the actual FUCK are you talking about? i don't even.. this doesn't compute, the way you two talk, either you're lieing or you two have the strangest relationship i have EVER seen, seriously goddamn

like i said several times before your points are always based on nemesis, and with you and nemesis at eachothers throats your points are religiously "nem did this at this at this point when i did this" you two are always back and forth, but you spotlight nem's reply to your actions or words as reasons to be scummy

my tune changed when your "reasons" for someone being scummy were based off of childish bickering (at least that's what it seemed like to me)

nem could be mafia just as well saying you're VT because he gives about as good information as you do, but you seem much more adept at pointing things out that aren't well and good usefull
you seem to be better at bandwaggoning and i thought it seemed like something either mafia would do, or a townie with an attitude, i'm still very much up in the air about both of you, but you seem more willing to lynch, while he seems more willing to call you a nigger (along with everyone else -_- )

you love to see whatever you want, it would seem, i just don't want people to start backing you based on your... hallucinations? we need FACT, cold. hard. FACT. to go off of, to make the right lynch, to not lose another fucking power role -_-

Thanks for pointing that out What, I didn't notice he edited his post and added that wall of text:

Kionay, the only "facts" we have right now are that there were 15 of us, now down to 13. One of us was a 3rd Party WW and the other was a VT/Deputy. And that I'm a VT.

Of course I'm going to bring Nem's actions into question when he's attacking me. You don't defend yourself when you're being accused of something? I "spotlight" Nem's responses toward my claim, because those responses are scummy. The only "good" info that was brought up on his part was the fact that there are other power roles at play and that it would be risky to lynch someone else randomly. Which is ALSO an argument that people who go for "no lynch" use.

You must be new around here dude. The way Nem and I talk in general to anyone has always been the same. Don't be such a faggot.

[What]

Post 290 was edited by you. An update is from a double post.

[Sin]

Kionay, to "Update" your post, just make a new one, it will automatically add it to your original post instead of "double-posting"

[kionay]

Kionay, to "Update" your post, just make a new one, it will automatically add it to your original post instead of "double-posting"

i did NOT know this

that's very interesting, never heard of that function before, thank you

i was SO confused, haha, anyhooo


as for sin and nem, I dont think either of them are mafia.. at lwast not yet. I would also venture to guess that kion is the cop due to his sudden change in behaviour towrds nem.

with how bad i played last game, how much i've fucked up, i'm a little honored someone would call me a cop... unless that's a bad thing

is that a bad thing? since mafia will target a cop? is calling someone a cop here both an insult and a compliment at the same time? i don't know how to feel :-|

[Sin]

Stop taking this game to heart, stepson.

And yes that's what I was hinting at in an earlier post, that you may have investigated Nem and found out he was Town, but I think you're just a confused little carebear now.

[Blackmage]

First, my reason for not wanting to discuss Nem is actually more complicated than what you suggested, Pass. While, yes, I figured that Nem was a good choice for Cop, I more wanted to see if he would try to talk himself into a lynch. Working on the theory that there might be a werewolf around, I didn't want to push him to claim, and any form of policy is pointless, as he's proven that he won't stop acting like scum in game when the town lynch him back when that happened in WCS. However, unless he knows something we don't know, his claim that lynching one townie rather than another is still bizarre, moreso when coupled with the fact that he's still only going after someone he already went after D1, playing OMGUS with suspicion instead of voting. I don't like his play, he's often downright dangerous to the town and this game has been no different, as such, I'll follow a lead on going after him, but due to preconceived notions, I'm unwilling to start.

Also, a bit of information I'll share because I found out about it when looking over things last night. Garth being deputy suggests that Bobby is the cop. As I understand it, Garth takes over for Bobby. Reason I bring this up, is this way we can be wary of non-Bobby cop claims.

Onto the problems with Sin. Some of these have been said before, but: early, unsolicited claiming of VT can look like trying to get a fake claim out of the way. It's a gamble, but if you're just a Goon, you bus yourself so can save your power roles for night and just lose a goon. Also, if a fellow scum jumps the vote early, it can work to clear them. B: More hidden VTs means more targets that the scum have to choose between to hit a power role. C: By witholding the information, it can be used to counter claim another fake claim. D: For his particular case, he asked for a mass claim, while claiming VT. Mass claiming is dangerous, a non-cleared player asking for massclaim in a closed setup is beyond dangerous. Werewolves, cult instead of mafia (remember, demons posses people), counter claiming cop or doc can end up doubly screwed, you're depending on out racing night kills when you have given away all your secret. His first play was dangerous, but beyond that, he's been mostly trustworthy in my eyes.

My lack of activity day 1 was due to boredom mostly. Watching it devolve into a copy of prison break's day 1, with Nem still being scummy but everyone still wanting to wave their sticks at a policy lynch. This time it was even against the suggestion of others. Sadly, wasn't on for the final votes, but so goes life and sleep. As for day 2, I was here at the start, and didn't wake up till 2 hours before this post. Also, if you don't think I'll bus my allies, boy, you've got another thing coming :) But seriously, I try to steer the town towards the most scummy player, no matter which side they are on. The problem is, it often is town players, just due to sheer numbers and various people's questionable plays.

Kion: a note for future games, while day 1 is only speculation, you don't want to lynch ANYONE before they can full claim if you can avoid it, especially day 1. It's also a bad idea to feel pressured into a vote, moreso if you're hammering it, because it will get you suspicion.

Sin, a problem with it being the horsemen: Lucifer was not needing their loyalty, he was dealing with them. Famine, he gave demons to in order to feed him. Pestilence, he had workers for. That one guy had the job of making sure the horsemen had whatever they wanted. It would seem more that Lucifer would have to prove to THEM, but the only one that would have cared was bound (death). In other words, I think the horsemen are a dead end for that kill at least. Also, on roles, Actor can only hammer, Priest cannot hammer. One who cannot initiate I don't believe is an official role, but they are out there.

Kion, it's only a bad thing if you are a Cop and Mikey figured it out :) Seriously though, what's he's suggesting is that you had a seeming sudden change of heart, which usually means new information, AKA: Cop.

Also, Mikey, unless you feel 100% sure on there being no WW, be wary of claiming a role for someone else. Probably best not to try to out a cop who probably found an innocent in any case, just play along instead.

Side note: Tomorrow is my dad's birthday, so my presence then will be spotty, but I'll be here.

[kionay]

Kion: a note for future games, while day 1 is only speculation, you don't want to lynch ANYONE before they can full claim if you can avoid it, especially day 1. It's also a bad idea to feel pressured into a vote, moreso if you're hammering it, because it will get you suspicion.

Kion, it's only a bad thing if you are a Cop and Mikey figured it out :) Seriously though, what's he's suggesting is that you had a seeming sudden change of heart, which usually means new information, AKA: Cop.

well there's the wall of text we know all too well from blackmage XD

my seeming sudden change a heart wasn't FOR nem, it was AGAINST sin, since my reaction to what he was claiming was something like

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/what1.gif

and my thought process something like "goddamnit sin's gonna spew shit against nem because he hates 'em, nem's gonna get lynched because he's an ass, and with our luck he'll have been another townie"

i saw the potential for someone to get lynched very quickly over claims i thought were unfounded

but in the future maybe i should stand back and watch it happen? maybe i should've instead just said "i think sin's claims are wrong"? and be done with it? would that still seem like a change of heart?

still adapting to the game i guess

in any case there are a lot of pagan gods (if memory serves) that had mind pew pew powers, maybe it's one of them? oh or a witch? there was a witch/worlock(?) couple that could throw sam/dean like that, maybe they could snap necks?

just more possibilities :)

[BladeTwinSwords]

I honestly don't know what to expect of this game. The Werewolf was REALLY odd as I've never played a game with a Werewolf before. Granted, I play mostly Vanilla style Mafia Games now.

I am assuming there is a Cop since we had a Deputy. While Deputy isn't exactly a vitally important power role, it has a power nonetheless. We really need to be more careful with our votes. We got very lucky with the Mafia killing the Werewolf. I don't think we'll be as lucky on Night 2. Let's look and see who is consistent/inconsistent and take that into account. Either A) The death of the Deputy or Werewolf changed their mind, B) They have a power role and determined something over the Night, C) They are stupid/unaware of what's going on.

[Blackmage]

People will take things as they want, however, this ISN'T a bad thing. Moreso if you can get the mafia to believe the softclaim of Cop, if you're a less useful role. For Sin to get Nem lynched, he'd have to get 6 other people to follow him. If Sin can damn him THAT well, Nem probably deserves to be threatened, because even if he gets close, a good claim should stop the lynch. Stand by and watch if you want, it would be hard to say that's not acceptable after I did it day 1.

Also, unless we think it will give us a hint to the powers, speculating on WHAT it could be isn't very useful at this point. I was trying to say that there are good people who could have vig'd him, not getting us on a snark hunt. However, we have proven the point that it doesn't HAVE to be a demon, but still is likely scum. Maybe we'll find out more tonight.

[Sin]

Something I forgot to mention earlier. Breaking a werewolfs neck doesn't kill him. Think Brett will come back in a day, because of this? That would be kind of COOOOL!

[kionay]

People will take things as they want, however, this ISN'T a bad thing. Moreso if you can get the mafia to believe the softclaim of Cop, if you're a less useful role. For Sin to get Nem lynched, he'd have to get 6 other people to follow him. If Sin can damn him THAT well, Nem probably deserves to be threatened, because even if he gets close, a good claim should stop the lynch. Stand by and watch if you want, it would be hard to say that's not acceptable after I did it day 1.

Also, unless we think it will give us a hint to the powers, speculating on WHAT it could be isn't very useful at this point. I was trying to say that there are good people who could have vig'd him, not getting us on a snark hunt. However, we have proven the point that it doesn't HAVE to be a demon, but still is likely scum. Maybe we'll find out more tonight.

you make a very good point

you live you learn i guess?

there are quite a few people that haven't said anything, i suppose i'll go home after work and let other people give their 2 cents before i poke back in?

gonna binge watch some more supernatural, heh

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Something I forgot to mention earlier. Breaking a werewolfs neck doesn't kill him. Think Brett will come back in a day, because of this? That would be kind of COOOOL!

VERY good point!

helluva twist if What is gonna do it that way!

kinda excited now XD

[CYBER]

Yup, should have lynched you like they were told.

Exactly, everyone should have listened to me and lynched you like I said. Then we'd still have our deputy and have lost nothing.

Voted for the Lynch: OB, Scrib, Nem, Phil, Brett, Blade, Mikey, Kionay

Voted for the Lynch: OB, Scrib, Nem, Phil, Brett, Blade, Mikey, Kionay

Voted for the Lynch: OB, Scrib, Nem!!!, Phil, Brett, Blade, Mikey, Kionay


For the love of that is fucking holy... FOCUS PEOPLE. Nem has YET to fucking answer to why he focused on getting Stan killed instead of his original accusations on Sin, when they both "felt" like VT claims. When all other variables taken away, Nem went nuts on sin, and kept going on stan no matter what .... SO DID BRETT.


I'm sorry, but if nemesis is fucking town, and playing THIS way? he NEEDS to get lynched. You know, how about we fucking use that "policy lynch" that you all seem to love doing so much and use it on the SCUMMIEST player in this current game?

OH RIGHT, we never do that on nemesis, he's the one guy that can get away with never being policy lynched for playing detrimentally scummy to town just because he's nem right? Considering nemesis is almost always going full berserk on policy lynching "idiots" who are useless to town, he's being worse than them... and no one bats a fucking eye?


Vote nemesis.


No, that vote is NOT a policy lynch vote, i am against all that is policy lynch, but this vote has been warranted for a while for scummy behavior and plain contradicting himself the entire game, while pointing fingers at random TOWNIES, saying that killing them is a good option, instead of being helpful to town... and he's STILL DODGING every fucking accusation we throw at him.


Nemesis, or soemone else, give me a damn reason backed by facts to unvote him. Nemesis if u have an important role to town, and you really ARE truly "Town sided" then know that I will fucking buss you to oblivion until you find a way to convey a msg to me in ur post that will let me stop pursuing this. Take the hint already.



on a side note,,, with a deputy dead, whoever posted about cop sanity is a valid point... personally an "insane" modifier might be seen bastardy, but it's rly not as it's just a logical flip of investigations... So if there really is a cop, and someone investigated Nemesis... just remember that you might have your answers backwards, and a good way to test that is to either test investigation on yourself, or on a 100% confirmed townie that's been backed by an ally death. just a tip of how to knowing if u are sane or not, if new.

[Sin]

on a side note,,, with a deputy dead, whoever posted about cop sanity is a valid point... personally an "insane" modifier might be seen bastardy, but it's rly not as it's just a logical flip of investigations... So if there really is a cop, and someone investigated Nemesis... just remember that you might have your answers backwards, and a good way to test that is to either test investigation on yourself, or on a 100% confirmed townie that's been backed by an ally death. just a tip of how to knowing if u are sane or not, if new.

This. I see no other reason for town to have a COP AND a DEPUTY. It's too imbalanced in towns favor that way, so as I stated earlier, most likely our COP is insane, maybe he's the Bobby Singer with the Khan Worm in his ear that killed Rufus (ME).

Whoever you are, keep that in mind.

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Oh and I forgot my vote:

Vote NEMESIS

Same reasons as Day 1.

[Locust]

Nem even if you are on the town's side you really don't act like it most of the time. Sin has claimed VT and there's absolutely no evidence suggesting otherwise unless the cop investigated him and they're willing to claim that. Your willingness to put a lynch on someone who's claimed town with a lack of evidence otherwise is rather concerning.

vote nemisis

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I agree. god help us if he's a bomb.

vote nemesis

[Old Bastard]

HOLY Hell, shit hit the fan while I was doing Higher things. Yeah Nem, gonna need something if you are pro-town.

Vote Nemesis

[Sin]

Well... THAT escalated quickly.

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I agree. god help us if he's a bomb.

vote nemesis

This is so fishy to me. Your last couple posts have been in questioning me, barely mentioning Nem at all. Why you jumping on this train?

[Old Bastard]

I'm gonna go as far as saying, Cyber has some pretty persuasive walls of text.

[Nemesis]

Sam Campbell. Town jailer. You stupid niggers.

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I'm one of the protections from last night

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I role blocked aco and protected him. That could be why no mafia kill

[Old Bastard]

So you claimed, but I feel the only way you can truly be confirmed is by Aco, or someone else who can investigate.

[Nemesis]

So you claimed, but I feel the only way you can truly be confirmed is by Aco, or someone else who can investigate.

Or he's scum. Idiot. Fucking parrots, Jesus.

[Old Bastard]

pending Aco has a power role and isn't scum. If he is scum and you are scum then it is too easy to compile a story for the next day to make you seem less suspicious. Which would also confirm Sin's suspicion as well.

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And how was that parroting, no one else has said anything since you posted. Fucking tool.

[Nemesis]

pending Aco has a power role and isn't scum. If he is scum and you are scum then it is too easy to compile a story for the next day to make you seem less suspicious. Which would also confirm Sin's suspicion as well.

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And how was that parroting, no one else has said anything since you posted. Fucking tool.

You can't think for yourself. Ever. You latch on to every other idea and squak it as your own.

[Old Bastard]

I say we fucking lynch your dumbass anyways just because you are a disrespectful piece of shit. But that is just my opinion. I can only imagine IBIS forums without your Hide-Behind-A-Screen and talk shit pussy ass being gone. It would definitely be a change for the better, in my opinion.

[Nemesis]

I say we fucking lynch your dumbass anyways just because you are a disrespectful piece of shit. But that is just my opinion. I can only imagine IBIS forums without your Hide-Behind-A-Screen and talk shit pussy ass being gone. It would definitely be a change for the better, in my opinion.

Keep talking shit, yet if I point out your shortcomings you cry to Maynard. Lol what a joke.

[Old Bastard]

You are the one who has been talking shit, I'm just tired of reading the diarrhea flow you call typing words.

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Side Note, I didn't say anything to Maynard. Your fellow forumers did however complain.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Stop the bickering. On to matters related to this thread. Nem claimed... thoughts?

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Nem, can you give more detail regarding aco?

[Nemesis]

I role blocked and protected him. That's all I have. Since he's not talking at all yet jumping on lynch trains.

[Sin]

I'm going to pull back my vote here to delay this lynching, until further information comes out.

UNVOTE NEMESIS

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I role blocked aco and protected him. That could be why no mafia kill

Also, this makes no sense. What are you talking about no mafia kill?

[Nemesis]

I'm going to pull back my vote here to delay this lynching, until further information comes out.

UNVOTE NEMESIS

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Also, this makes no sense. What are you talking about no mafia kill?

I was on my phone, it doesn't make sense. What I meant was there was only one kill and we're not 100% on how Brett died. But with the flavour it most likely had nothing to do with Aco. Hell if he doesn't have an action he might not have even gotten a msg.

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I think it's also weird how quickly he jumped on the train without saying anything ever

[Sin]

I think it's also weird how quickly he jumped on the train without saying anything ever

Yeah I brought that up in my lynch post. Say Aco was mafia though, does it matter if you blocked him? Can't anyone in the Mafia do a Nightkill?

[Nemesis]

Lol at Cyber by the way. If you would actually read I explained why I changed my vote to Stan. Work harder in ESL.

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Yeah I brought that up in my lynch post. Say Aco was mafia though, does it matter if you blocked him? Can't anyone in the Mafia do a Nightkill?

Not usually. Lets say there is three; a gf a framer and a goon. The goon is the killer and he can be locked.

[Blackmage]

Well, that's a neat claim. When he was a "jailer" in the show, he was working for Crowley, and more than willing to sacrifice Sam and Dean. Hell, you could say he proved himself to Crowley in Caged Heart, but that's just a side note, he wasn't super powered so couldn't be the killer in this case. Is this take on his role something What felt fell under plot rather than flavour, poor fake claim from someone who doesn't know the lore, or an "interesting aspect" What mentioned.

Nem answered the questions I had while I was typing the above. I guess now we see if Aco has anything to say, and see where people want to go from here.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

This is so fishy to me. Your last couple posts have been in questioning me, barely mentioning Nem at all. Why you jumping on this train?

its simple. I mentioned earlier that the only 2 people I has suspicions of were you and nem. wagon started against nem, so I went along with it.


So you claimed, but I feel the only way you can truly be confirmed is by Aco, or someone else who can investigate.

how the fuck could I confirm he roleblocked me?

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also, reason i didn't reply sooner was because I passed out after getting back from what I hope to be the last hell-day of my college career. (stayed up til 7 am to write a pair of papers, then up at 9:30 to get to review session for STAT final, then presented on one of the papers, then took said STAT final).

fml being a senior sucks.

[Sin]

You can claim Aco.

[Nemesis]

its simple. I mentioned earlier that the only 2 people I has suspicions of were you and nem. wagon started against nem, so I went along with it.



how the fuck could I confirm he roleblocked me?

the only way you could would be to out yourself if you had a power role, but I wouldn't pay much attention to the 23 club anyways.

[CYBER]

Glad I spiced things up with that vote a bit, I've been meaning to see who is simply following ban wagons on ppl they would normally trust outside if the game, or ppl actually reasoning.

Role wise? Jail keeper can as easily be a mafia role. He'll u might just be a mafia role locker and simply added the protection that night.

Although the Samantha flavour would be either a good fake claim attempt, or truely right.

Now we got a hard claim from Nemesis instead of dodging, for once in his damn life.

I'm probably gonna unvote you nem simply because I needed to prove a point about u, and those who immediately bussed you...
I simply can't do that on my phone tho.

unvote Nemesis for now
(did the unvote work on this cell? ?)

So here is a fact, considering there are TWO protections only mentioned in the scene, and logically acceptable for balancing purposes,:
IF YOU ARE A PROTECTOR but NOT THE DIVINE HEALER , you can counter claim Nemesis NOW as he just claimed the second protector, and he'll be a mafia otherwise.


Now I am also meaning to ask about aco , was there a way u can confirm or deny nemesis claim? At least then we would have a binary exclusive decision to make regarding u two, because ur vote on nem felt a bit out of place.


Finally, fun fact that just occurred to me.
The story in the scene suggests two people talkinG about how two OTHER People are divided and easy to be countered by manipulating ppl from distance.

And seeing as we can make an assumption that those 2 parties are Nemesis and Sin, seeing as the 2 talking ppl were probably doing a mafia hit on Brett,...

We COULD theoretically rule out Nemesis and sin as ACTUALLY pro town, and not the same 2 mafia.

This is all pure speculation at this point, and as much as I hate finding out that Nemesis is pro town with his retarded ass scummy plays...

It is possible he could be telling the truth. And if he was telling the truth, then acolyte was NOT the killer last night as he would have been role blocked
. (he can still be mafia, just not the one who killed Brett)..




Now we could kill of Nemesis and have his claim confirmed as pro town and thus Wed have the fact that aco was blocked last night... But it rly would not help out case.
Based on flavour text only, My attention should drop from Nemesis and sin for now and turn to those who have been quiet, or less talkative than usual. And the current busses that happened so fast should be looked at.

Now I need to hear from the less active ones. Is scribble back from his unfortunate long "travels" yet, could use some insight in this game.


Fuck that took forever to type on cell...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i revert back to what i said several pages ago
"as for sin and nem, I dont think either of them are mafia.. at lwast not yet."

Aco, why are you overly defensive?

[Nemesis]

Note to Cyber, Sam as in Samuel, not Samantha.

[CYBER]

Nemesis? Out of curiosity. Why aco? Why protect acolyte at night of all people? I didn't see how he could be a prime target for mafia at day 1, did I miss something that made u protect aco of all people?

[Nemesis]

I wasn't protecting him, I was blocking him. His lack of input compared to other games made me think he could be mafia, and it's not like there's anyone to go off of.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Now I am also meaning to ask about aco , was there a way u can confirm or deny nemesis claim? At least then we would have a binary exclusive decision to make regarding u two, because ur vote on nem felt a bit out of place.



I cannot confirm or deny his claim, sadly. and how did it feel out of place? I have been suspicious of nem since the beginning, second only to Sin. I saw sin vote for a lynch on nem, and figured that it would be a good way to clear sin's name or not. if nem ended up being a mafia, then my suspicions were unfounded. if he was town, then i'd still suspect sin (maybe a bit more) and we'd be free of nemesis being a fucking jackass with every keystroke. it was at least a partial win either way.




Aco, why are you overly defensive?

am I being defensive? I didn't notice. i figured I should just address why I haven't been posting much recently. today has been a fucking nightmare irl.

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addenda: we don't know who exactly got protected last night. wonder if nem actually saved my life. i would almost feel bad for suspecting him if that was the case.

almost.

[CYBER]

Note to Cyber, Sam as in Samuel, not Samantha.
Oh ok that makes ur claim a bit less foolproof than I thought flavorwise. Bcos i was wondering how convenient of a pick that was. because I forgot the last name u wrote while reading this at work and just assumed it was that sheriff chick with the undead son, and assumed u were a Samantha.

damn it's been a long fucking show.

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I wasn't protecting him, I was blocking him
Now that's something Nemesis would definitely do lol -_-... Ergh I feel like we are missing smthn...

Also, this is just me but I have this uncanny feeling that this 1 person is mafia... And i just know that if I get killed, boy oh boy Y'all better get rdy to HUnt him down lol... He is a new player tho... Rly hard to pinpoint his gameplay or figure out his tells yet...

[Old Bastard]

Well out of the new players I know 2 that I would think you are insinuating. Are you going to float the name of the suspect before we decided to lynch or just possibly die and leave it a mystery?

[CYBER]

Well out of the new players I know 2 that I would think you are insinuating. Are you going to float the name of the suspect before we decided to lynch or just possibly die and leave it a mystery?

I wouldn't wry about that person for the time being, if they even flinch wrong they'll be dead by my books. For now the focus is to try to isolate who is good and who is bad. My suspicions of that player are purely gut feeling...
I'm notorious for being pretty strong with my gut feelings, but that's what u get for being paranoid from everyone most of the time...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

where is phil and locust? They came in, quick voted and havnt said anything to my knowledge apart from that D2. D1 they had like 2 posts each.

[Old Bastard]

Well with that being said, it appears that we have reached a stall.

Unvote Nemesis

The unvote is only temporary pending future evidence. I have Higher things to do atm, but will continue to read over new posts. Nemesis in my opinion (Cause I'm a parrot of course), is still not in the clear due to the history of Samuel Campbell in the show. Very untrustworthy to say the least.

[Nemesis]

Well with that being said, it appears that we have reached a stall.

Unvote Nemesis

The unvote is only temporary pending future evidence. I have Higher things to do atm, but will continue to read over new posts. Nemesis in my opinion (Cause I'm a parrot of course), is still not in the clear due to the history of Samuel Campbell in the show. Very untrustworthy to say the least.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44uYz6PuTj0

[kionay]

where is phil and locust? They came in, quick voted and havnt said anything to my knowledge apart from that D2. D1 they had like 2 posts each.

seems everyone is putting in their 2 cents

'cept brett seems to parrot [nemesis is a dickhead about it but he's not wrong] others

with posts like "ya... what he said" "he said it alright" "everyone is doing this so i will too"

maybe he's a town power role and doesn't want to risk mafia on his ass, maybe he is mafia and... yeah



more talky talky, more scummy lynchey :P

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... and more dominos pizza :D

[Nemesis]

You mean old bastard, not Brett right?

[Old Bastard]

Well by all means, Kionay, if you feel that I am a parrot as well and that I could be mafia or a town power role, point the finger. I could say the same to Nem. If you don't like it do something about it. The fact of the matter is I merely hold my opinions to myself as I have watched Supernatural from start to nearly finish 3 times over, and know a lot about the series. I am merely sitting back seeing who is going to hang who and who is going to fuck up with claiming and what not. Samuel Campbell was never a 'good' guy from the start. He is a lying, deceiving, mischievous son of a bitch and deserved what he got when died because of the Khan Worm.

[brett friggin favre]

***yeah, what he said*** ***he said it, alright!*** ***everyone is doing this, so i will too***

***squawk!***

[Old Bastard]

And ghost of Brett for comic relief.

[CYBER]

And ghost of Brett for comic relief.

Somehow imagined a ghost Brett with a clown face taking a piss outside your bedroom window frame.

[Old Bastard]

Somehow imagined a ghost Brett with a clown face taking a piss outside your bedroom window frame.

LOL, creative imagination

[CYBER]

Clearly I have issues, and a bit unstable mentally recently and I got distracted by this fucking never ending itch in my right arm while typing, but glad Brett is still enjoying this lol, i'd go to hell and back to still be part of a good story.


Wasn't sam Campbell the winchesters grandfather and was in fucking TEAMWORK with Crowley for the better part of 2 seasons? Ergh... Something still smells like a bad pie in all of this game.

[Old Bastard]

Yes, he was brought back to life by Crowley and worked for him.

[phil.™]

where is phil and locust? They came in, quick voted and havnt said anything to my knowledge apart from that D2. D1 they had like 2 posts each.

Sorry, paper work is just backed up right now. For some reason, all of my paper work from 2012 (jan-oct) got deleted and I needed to go day-by-day for each job I did. (steamer can vouch for me, as he stopped by my shop and saw me doing paper work the whole time). As for scribbs, he is still unable to get internet connection and will be afk for a bit.

What do you want me to say? I see lot of people jumping on the wagon following the next person. Everyone's claim and reasoning sounds good, then jumping on another wagon. I'm not going to be about that. I read through the posts, but havent really grasped much information as I liked, i'll re-read again tonight and post any insight that I might have, or not.

[kionay]

You mean old bastard, not Brett right?

fuck, yeah

goddamnit ._.

sorry (ghost)brett

[Old Bastard]

Well damn lets not all be quiet at once... Can we please start hearing from people who have little to no input? Locust, Blade, Phil, and Scribble even though Scribble is pretty much justified as I know his situation. But the rest of you there is no excuse, unless of course you have something to hide?

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I mean all of those people have posted like 2-3 times a piece since D2 started.

[phil.™]

Well damn lets not all be quiet at once... Can we please start hearing from people who have little to no input? Locust, Blade, Phil, and Scribble even though Scribble is pretty much justified as I know his situation. But the rest of you there is no excuse, unless of course you have something to hide?

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I mean all of those people have posted like 2-3 times a piece since D2 started.

I will comment on this when I get home.

[Blackmage]

Let's take stock of what we have. Claims from Sin and Nem. Everyone except Scribble has posted in D2, so either Scribble is our cop, or our cop found nothing of importance, or doesn't trust his result. No counter claims on Flavour, or on Nem's physical protection. Beyond that, nothing solid, correct?

While having more input would be nice, Scribble's input is the one I'm waiting for. If he comes in with a Cop claim, or a physical protection claim, we can start doing something right quick.

Nem, before any surprises happen, you are Scum's Jailkeeper, and not Epic's Jailer, right? In other words JUST RB/Doc?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Nem is playing scummy like always.

Sin claimed VT and is defending himself.

Blackmage is explaining stuff.

Cyber has giant walls of text.

Mikey is being a little more reserved than usual.

phil is being a little bitch. So as usual.

Scribble is playing like usual.

Locust isn't doing much of anything.

Pass is being reserved.

kion is playing normally.

Old you are playing aggressive.

So the only people I'm suspicious of right now is Old, Locust, Mikey, Pass, and maybe Nem.

[phil.™]

I am still on the road, nearly 10-15 minutes from my house.
I am neither or or against scribbs, as I actually know scribbs condition. He is or was unable to get internet connection, and under certain work circumstances maybe delayed to respond.
Before being hasty, let's not jump the gun of his absence in D2.

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Neither for* nor against.*

[phil.™]

Okay to recap on what I was saying...
The people I am concerned about is OB and aco.
Nem made a claim, it is some what backed up, not confirmed. Sin is really playing aggressive, but maybe pushing for more leads as an actual VT, as he will be willing to take one for the team.
Aco has not confirmed his identity or role after being called out (if i missed it, i apologize, i've been reading everything through traffic). OB follows the crowd with no other explanation of his own other than others. Now, when I was a mafia, I would follow other's lynch to get things moving, as he has shown. OB, what are you? Why are you just following the wagon and nothing saying anything else?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Aco has not confirmed his identity or role after being called out (if i missed it, i apologize, i've been reading everything through traffic)

I realize now that i kinda hinted at it, when people asked if i could confirm nem's blocking of me n1.

[phil.™]

I realize now that i kinda hinted at it, when people asked if i could confirm nem's blocking of me n1.

Oh did you? My apologies, i will thoroughly read this thread over tomorrow morning. But i do still stand by my assessment on OB.

[Old Bastard]

That's 3 people, possibly 4 people that have me as a suspicion. That's fine, I don't know how many fucking hints I have to drop for you people to realize and put 2 and 2 together. The fact of the matter I'm not going to hard claim, at least not unless I absolutely have too.

[phil.™]

DRUNK.
Good night. Scribbs if you read this, get better.
Catch ya'll at 6am EST.

[Passarelli]

Pass is being reserved.

Sorry, I am reading it all now, I'll post more when I am done. I just made it home, 3rd day of moving these people shit and still not done. Fun times.

[Passarelli]

Ok, first off I am sorry I haven't been on today. Been out of town all afternoon and just made it home a little while ago. I have been pretty reserved in what I have said because I thought Kionay was soft claiming cop and clearing Nem, Nem hadn't had his panties in a bunch and his shocked reaction when Stan was a minor power role showed concern for the town, and Sin was the only other person that voted and didn't bus the wagon on Stan.

I am still suspicious of Mikey, as he deflected my probes as to his busing of Stan. I gave a good argument as to why he shouldn't have been lynched day 1. I am pretty suspicious of everyone who voted after I laid out my thinking, actually; however it was Mikey I challenged to show the flaw in my hypothesis. Now we are suffering because of that lynch. What did his best to derail the wagon by insinuating that Stan was simply a VT (at least we know he isn't being a bastard). Not only did we lynch the deputy but we are in Day 2 with very little information. It seems we will be making the proper random day 1 lynch on day 2. I find it funny that exactly what I said happened. Sigh.

Those that jumped on the wagon this go round are either disappointed that Kionay withdrew his soft claim and are going after Nem because they would have yesterday OR are Scum, so I feel doubly suspicious of people who just voted for Nem and also lynched Stan yesterday. Way to go Cyber for bluffing Nem out. I'd suggest whoever has protection might want to watch over him if you believe him. That said, if he is killed at night, we know he isn't scum.

As to balance with the deputy role--I'm guessing we either have an Insane Cop (deputy would take over when the Cop got the wrong person lynched and was retaliated against and lynched the following day) or there is an extra mafia or 3rd party. Worst case scenario I see would be 4 mafia and two 3rd parties--again, this would be if the Cop were sane. Hopefully he figures that out sooner then later. Come on Bobby, get it together! (was Bobby 'insane' in the show?)

[What]

This is an aside and the last Time I will mention this.

Stan was not removed from the game because he was not in any way unable to play the game. He never once contacted me, I had to go contact him, and since I do work and he is not online 24/7 meant it was not instantaneous.
Another reason I paused the game? This is why:

Brett: if you won't be around, tell What, he could possibly find a replacement.
however, that answer does seem to indicate that stan's VT

Stan: edited my reply. i'll tell what about it. sorry for the inconvenience.

Blackmage: Until a mod feels like someone went to far. Mods often avoid modkilling if possible because it ruins balance. But, as I assume you're suggesting, a threat doesn't mean much if it's never carried out. We'll see what What says. Maybe we can get a replacement that will pay more attention than Stan. Or Wolf :P

Mikey: furthermore.. this "im busy" excuse is bullshit from anyone.

I work full time doing 10-12 hours a day. i get about 3 hours of freee time on a good day and i manage to access the forums and post. Unless you like like a fucking cave man.. you have a phone, tablet, PC. I know for a fact you arent working on school for 24 hours straight... for christ sakes, im sure you had to poop at one point.. bring your phone to the crapper.
Personal reform

Brett: as of right now, my vote's on stan (not on nem...again ONLY because stan's shit stinks worse than his) but i'm waiting to see if he'll be replaced before we go down that road.

Scrib: Policy lynch or no policy lynch I am fed up with the lack of contribution or the busy excuse. Why sign up if you know you are going to be inactive?

OB: So what, we wait another 24 hrs for a replacement to get in, and most likely end up doing the same thing unless that person is a seasoned vet.

Scrib: I am not waiting on a replacement. Eight pages for the first day according to my post per page count and that is likely to make it to ten before we see a replacement. Then we continue to shit on the smallest things we find suspicious until we make some ridiculous, half-random vote anyways. We all ask for evidence and we all question the evidence given. Fun stuff these first days of mafia games.
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Upon finally contacting Stan, and have him tell me he felt like he was being attacked and would just turn the thread into a flame war, I understood that his lack of participation was due to him acting weird, not a valid reason to remove someone. Had he suddenly went out of town or something, then I would have replaced him. I talked to him and explained that he had plenty of time to play, he expressed he was just unsure of himself and implied he might still be willing to play. The only reason someone would be removed from a game is if they are physically unable to continue or if they are breaking the rules. So I do not care what the hell any players role is. If a VT says he is going to be out of town for a month and can't continue, I will replace him. If a Cop says that he thinks people are acting like dicks, I will not replace him, as it should be with any of these games. I did not in anyway attempt to steer a vote away from a player, I acted as a mod addressing concerns within the thread due to a players actions. Any moderator actions are not "part" of the game, there is nothing to be read into them. This should finally teach you guys that lesson. Any game that is reliant on any one player not being lynched the first day is not a balanced game. Only one of you had the intelligence to realize I did not say anything about Stan's role, the rest of you assumed VT and were wrong. It is also clear, had I not said anything, people would have taken my silence as an acknowledgement that Stan was not important and he would have still been lynched. Then I would have been accused of not paying attention. All the information you need to play is in your own posts and the scenes, that is it.

I will gladly answer any more questions on this after the game, but it will not be discussed further until that point by me or anyone else.

Now play the game and have fun.

[Passarelli]

My apologizes for being a complete noob and misinterpreting all of that. The rest of my post still stands.

[CYBER]

What is playing scummy.

vote What.


no seriously, nothing fuckign happened between my last post and now? -.-

OB. question. Was there something i should be taking a ...ehm... close look at? yes or no, I'll get it.

And I don't know if aco soft claimed, must have missed it if he actually did, but other than his "how the fuck could I know if i was blocked or not" might suggest that he's telling us his ability has NO feedback from the mod. I.e he's not a cop waiting on feedback from the mod, or a message saying "no results that night" if he was roleblocked. And thus, he is either VT, OR a power role with no mod feedback, i.e smthn to help others or wait around for ppl to poke at him. I can understand such answer if i was in his shoes too.


I dont remember who, but someone asked who that "person" i've been eyeing for a while, so i'm just going to put that out there: I PERSONALLY do NOT trust in passerelli (no offense man, i don't know why ...)... i have no proof to back my claim other than my gut feeling and something i said a LONG LONG time ago at the beginning of the thread...but that's just what i feel. i could definitely be wrong.. And ima just say that if someone pokes at me or something happens to me, someone's gonna feel the wrath of that decision :) couldn't give a fucking rat's ass :P so yeah, tread litely.


Need more input from the afkers, as the scene suggests that they are simply watching the show and letting Nemesis and Sin kill off eachother. As much as i DESPISE nemesis's playstyle, SOMEONE should clear him down the road so we can gain trust in his shitty play. not right now though, as his claimed role whether mafia or town sided, is of little "deadly impact" on us...

Fuck... If stan actually played smart, he could have hinted at the cop to claim for protection so that he can at least clear one or 2 of us... And a protector could protect him, and if he WERE to die, then Stan would know he'd replace him... Sucks he had so much potential and just went fuckign afk at start... hate that shit....


COP, if you are reading this, i STRONGLY suggest you don't claim as of yet. I can personally try to see subtle hints here and there if you played right, but other than that, do NOT claim, and the reason is because i strongly believe that the "divine" protection is a Faith Healer Castiel. And if that was the case, then their protection only has a 50% chance to work...

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BLACKMAGE.


can you do me a solid? Can you post the chained voted of what happened on the Nemesis wagon?

You have a knack for compiling those, and I could use another pair of eyes at this moment..

[Passarelli]

I'm sad that you don't trust me Cyber. I've done my best to help the town. I was hoping our misunderstanding had remained just that. <3

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Also, very good point about the scene and the people who haven't commented, especially those who only commented to bus Nem.

[Old Bastard]

To your question Cyber, Yes. You are good at filtering through shit, so I figured you would be the first to catch it.

[Passarelli]

OB, you old bastard. I had caught it already and would have tried to stop a wagon unless someone counter claimed what you said.

[CYBER]

To your question Cyber, Yes. You are good at filtering through shit, so I figured you would be the first to catch it.
@old_bastard specifically.
oh yeah now i remember. from the very start i figured so, but mistook ur posts for kionay's because you 2 seem to constantly fucking post shit after the other. I wonder why -.-

At first i would have accepted a High five from you for thinking im that awesome... but on second thought, i'd say fuck off now, seeing as you see me as a damn filthy garbage Hunter.
Suit up. you're officially a -1 on my list for ula whiteboy. Got it?

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on a completely unrelated side note of little importance lol, we all need to keep our eyes peeled for who is lying through their teeth, who is pretending to be afk, who isn't as active as usual, and who could be a pro town looking for answers, so that we can plan accordingly.
Right now I'm clueless and people need start being more active at night, getting bored and Hungry at night without posts to read :(

[Blackmage]

I have a knack at looking at posts to find who voted? Not sure how I should take that... Well I assume this is what you meant by "chained voted" Anyway!

Cyber votes (2:28)
Sin votes
Locust votes
Aco votes
OB votes
Nem Claims (3:39)

So, one hour, eleven minutes. We had real fast votes and no discussion in this time, just a comment from OB and one from Sin. Over the next few hours:

Sin unvotes (4:44)
Cyber unvotes (5:21)
OB unvotes (5:59)

This voting took three and a half hours. Fairly impressive activity for us, if nothing else. You and Sin both unvoted in your next post, OB took some time before he unvoted. Locust hasn't posted since the vote, and therefore is still on Nem. I see no unvotes from Aco in his posts since the claim. So it looks like of the 5 votes, we still have 2 on Nem.

Mikey says here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12333-Supernatural-Mafia?p=179969#post179969) that Phil voted, but I can't find any votes from Phil in D2. Looking at things I assume he meant Aco, and I'm not just blind.



Pass, as I mention, the only one who "only commented to bus Nem" is actually Locust. Also, the only person to be in both votes is actually OB. Saying you'd try to stop a wagon on him seems to suggest you DO trust him. What exactly are you saying?

Also, when looking through Phil's posts for his vote, I noticed, he posts his real life status a lot. He makes comments about the game, but it really looks like he's taken the whole "make sure you're active" to heart in a little too literal sense.

For reference, D1 votes:
OB vote Stan
Sin vote Nem
Pass vote Nem
OB unvotes, vote Nem
Stan votes NL
Scrib vote Stan
Nem vote Stan
OB unvotes, vote Stan
Stan confirmed remaining
phil vote stan
Brett vote stan
Blade vote Stan
RL night happens
OB unvotes
Sin unvotes, vote Sin
Mikey vote Stan
OB vote Stan
Kion hammer Stan

(Has not voted at all: Me)

Cyber, I'm wonder about you sometimes. You and Pass make me feel like I'm missing something important, and I'm not talking about OB... Off to reread everything again!

[Old Bastard]

And now that you know me, I know you Cyber. Glad to see you're still on your game, happy hunting assbutt.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Cyber loves dicks.

There you go Cyber.

On another note, have we presented every possible scenario?

[Old Bastard]

As for the rest of you assbutts, http://imgur.com/Fzb3At3

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sorry my mistake, new to uploading gifs. http://i.imgur.com/Fzb3At3.gif?1

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And Blade you're an igit. Just saying

[CYBER]

Cyber, I'm wonder about you sometimes. You and Pass make me feel like I'm missing something important, and I'm not talking about OB... Off to reread everything again!


In one of my earlier posts, I talked about a new player doing a tiny rookie mafia mistake until they were educated about the rules, and that action gave me a "bad feeling" about the intentions behind it... the post is somewhere at very start of day 1.
put 2 and 2 together.

also, not saying that i trust in your gameplay because you've taught me in previous games that you play the same whether u are town or scum, but if anything, u're one of the few that should have picked up on some shit i posted earlier and mnemorize, and been waiting to see how u interacted.
I hate that I cannot read you sadly.

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Cyber loves dicks.

There you go Cyber.

don't make me fucking put you back in my sig dingleberry. your momma got it real' gd.

[Blackmage]

That... Was not the response I was expecting, to say the least. I take it I'm wrong in my hunch, but, between this game and last, I'm starting to think I'm becoming a little too confusing for my own good. I swear what I say makes sense in my own head.

[CYBER]

That... Was not the response I was expecting, to say the least. I take it I'm wrong in my hunch, but, between this game and last, I'm starting to think I'm becoming a little too confusing for my own good. I swear what I say makes sense in my own head.


preaching to the choir on that one...

[Passarelli]

Pass, as I mention, the only one who "only commented to bus Nem" is actually Locust. Also, the only person to be in both votes is actually OB. Saying you'd try to stop a wagon on him seems to suggest you DO trust him. What exactly are you saying?

Sorry for not clarifying earlier, I knew he voted in both but I forgot he was the only one to do so and thus didn't realize I should.

I was waiting to see what OB did. I figured it was a ploy of some sort to gain more information--information we desperately need. That is why I said I'd try to stop a wagon, and did not actively try to stop people from fingering him (interesting who did, however).

I figured OB was trying to bait some scum so I didn't want to say anything--and if anything try to make it seem like voting for him might be a possibility. That said, I figure that since he pointed out the hints he gave made him feel a little uncomfortable with the amount of pressure he was getting so I wanted to allay his fears. I also still am not sure if he is lying or not about what he has hinted at. Now we wait and see if anyone calls bullshit. If someone did or still does, one of them would be scum and the cop would know who to lynch tomorrow. If not, well, I hope we don't have anymore werewolves. It might be worth considering investigating him to confirm--but again, I'm still a bit of a nub as to who makes promising investigation targets.

It was just a mistake I made that ended up not changing anything other then making Cyber suspicious of me.

I'd still like to hear some input from those who haven't said much. Hopefully something will happen by the time I wake up.

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Well, yeah. Just saw Cyber reply before I did. Sorry again for the noob mistake >.<

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Sorry for not clarifying earlier, I knew he voted in both but I forgot he was the only one to do so and thus didn't realize I should.

I was waiting to see what OB did. I figured it was a ploy of some sort to gain more information--information we desperately need. That is why I said I'd try to stop a wagon, and did not actively try to stop people from fingering him (interesting who did, however).

I figured OB was trying to bait some scum so I didn't want to say anything--and if anything try to make it seem like voting for him might be a possibility. That said, I figure that since he pointed out the hints he gave made him feel a little uncomfortable with the amount of pressure he was getting so I wanted to allay his fears. I also still am not sure if he is lying or not about what he has hinted at. Now we wait and see if anyone calls bullshit. If someone did or still does, one of them would be scum and the cop would know who to lynch tomorrow. If not, well, I hope we don't have anymore werewolves. It might be worth considering investigating him to confirm--but again, I'm still a bit of a nub as to who makes promising investigation targets.

It was just a mistake I made that ended up not changing anything other then making Cyber suspicious of me.

I'd still like to hear some input from those who haven't said much. Hopefully something will happen by the time I wake up.

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Well, yeah. Just saw Cyber reply before I did. Sorry again for the noob mistake >.<

this must be your first game?
I did not try and bus stan. I gave him time, hell, i even posted that i was going to wait. I pushed it off for as long as i could but you know what? We get absolutely fucking no where sitting in a day phase for a week in real time, he was not responsive and showed clear disdain towards the game when he did make a post. He edited a post and gave 2 shits about it being against the rules.

As for your logic? Your first few posts made any sense, broken english and rambling. It wasnt tell after he was lynched that i got to see your other one, the last one that made a tiny bit more sense. As im sure you are aware.. i have a job that takes about bettween 10-12 hours of my day.

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and even THEN! he was not a confirmed townie and he was just as likley to turn up mafia as ANY one else we could have lynched. I think you are focused on the wrong things, you cant see a lynch that happens to be on a townie and immediatly assume everyone involved with that lynch somehow magically knew he was town and were out to kill them because of it.

[Passarelli]

this must be your first game?

As for your logic? Your first few posts made any sense, broken english and rambling. It wasnt tell after he was lynched that i got to see your other one, the last one that made a tiny bit more sense.

Yes, this is indeed my first game. I have played a similar game about 15 years ago on a bus on the way home from a soccer game but it was much less complex.

I'm glad you think that my first few posts made any sense--I'm sorry if I ramble.

The post I am refering to is this one:

Rather then being pointlessly insulting, why not simply poke holes in the logic.

My logic being:

Day 1 policy lynch means no usable voting data. No voting data means investigators are ham-stringed and less likely to have usable data for day 2. Thus, night 1 is not being used efficiently.

Day 1 semi-random lynch gives decent data which investigators can use to zero in on a suspect. If they still miss their mark, even if a policy lynch takes place during day 2, they can still use the data from the previous day.

Which of the two seems preferable to you?

Again, let me know if I am misunderstanding how this works. I am a newbie after all.

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*the previous day for night 2.

Is this the one you think made a tiny bit more sense? The one where I spelled out a situation that is pretty similar to the one we are in now?

You posted 5 times after I asked that--one of which was your vote for Stan.

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Okay, really got to sleep now. Night all! Hopefully someone will have something great for us this morning.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Yes, this is indeed my first game. I have played a similar game about 15 years ago on a bus on the way home from a soccer game but it was much less complex.

I'm glad you think that my first few posts made any sense--I'm sorry if I ramble.

The post I am refering to is this one:


Is this the one you think made a tiny bit more sense? The one where I spelled out a situation that is pretty similar to the one we are in now?

You posted 5 times after I asked that--one of which was your vote for Stan.

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Okay, really got to sleep now. Night all! Hopefully someone will have something great for us this morning.

i thought that one was first thing D2.

I still would argue your point, as it dosnt make alot of sense nor do you have a clear understanding of how this game works. Stan still had the ability to respond to the voting that was going on and either soft claim or hard claim to save himself from a vote. This makes your first scenario mute. Your second scenario dosnt make any sense. Lynching stan was just as random as lynching any one else, only that stan was a liability to town due to his inactivity.

The reason we dont have info is for the following two reasons, the cop and any other investigative role doesnt feel comfortable revealing information yet. Whom ever they investigated last night can either be damned or confirmed.

[Nemesis]

Let's take stock of what we have. Claims from Sin and Nem. Everyone except Scribble has posted in D2, so either Scribble is our cop, or our cop found nothing of importance, or doesn't trust his result. No counter claims on Flavour, or on Nem's physical protection. Beyond that, nothing solid, correct?

While having more input would be nice, Scribble's input is the one I'm waiting for. If he comes in with a Cop claim, or a physical protection claim, we can start doing something right quick.

Nem, before any surprises happen, you are Scum's Jailkeeper, and not Epic's Jailer, right? In other words JUST RB/Doc?

Why, want to have a chat?





Nem is playing the right way.

Sin claimed VT and is defending himself like a fucking retard.

Blackmage is explaining stuff.

Cyber has giant walls of Mexican text.

Mikey is being a little more reserved than usual yet still manages to ramble aimlessly on occasion.

phil is being a little bitch. So as usual. Since he's Mexican

Scribble is playing like usual, as in, if he had a stroke, no one would really notice since he is never here anyways.

Locust isn't doing much of anything and no one finds it strange at all because hey, why not grow the 23 club

Pass is being reserved.

kion is playing normally.

Old = Bawk Bawk BAWK!!!

So the only people I'm suspicious of right now is Old, Locust, Mikey, Pass, and maybe Nem.

That's better.

[Sin]

Why, want to have a chat?




That's better.

Hahahahahaha!

Fuckin faggot.

[Nemesis]

Hahahahahaha!

Fuckin faggot.

You are worse than Marian Hossa.

[Sin]

y u heff to be med?

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On topic though: Last night was about as fruitful in the information department as yesterday was. I'd almost rather just lynch Nem to get the next day on the road. C'mon people. Aco with a VT soft claim is a little convenient, but I still don't like the way Blade smells.

Cyber brought up a good point on something OB said Day 1, he's not really suspicious to me, just new to the game.

Still pointing towards Nem though, he could simply be lying about his role and picked Aco at random, but we'll see. If he isn't Mafia will most likely take him out tonight to avoid getting blocked in the future.

Blade or Nem for me, now. It's a toss up.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I smell like Charleston Chews, you got somethin' against Charleston Chews?

[Passarelli]

i thought that one was first thing D2.

I still would argue your point, as it dosnt make alot of sense nor do you have a clear understanding of how this game works. Stan still had the ability to respond to the voting that was going on and either soft claim or hard claim to save himself from a vote. This makes your first scenario mute. Your second scenario dosnt make any sense. Lynching stan was just as random as lynching any one else, only that stan was a liability to town due to his inactivity.

Nope, that was right after you called me a 5th grader a couple hours before Stan got lynched. You may want to follow the advice you gave me earlier when you were berating me.

Lynching Stan wasn't random, as it was a 'policy lynch'. That in turn messed up the voting data which means that we are still working pretty blind.

I'm heading out--hopefully I can finish moving these bastards today. Never help a horder move, just burn their old house down with all their shit inside. Them too--you'll save yourself a lot of time.

Before I leave again:

Vote Locust


Locust, I would love to have a reason to trust you but all I have seen from you was saying that 'no lynch' is a bad idea on day 1 and you voting for Nem. Could you at least share you thoughts on others? The flavor text seems to implicate those who are taking a more passive role. I'll try to check in during the day in case you get back to us to unvote.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I do aggree that locust is suspicous. Voting but not engaging in discussion. He is activly being inactive.

May vote with you but will wait tell I get home from work.

[SCRIBBLE]

I am back. I will read over everything and post my thoughts.

[phil.™]

hmmmm locust.

[kionay]

sorta glad not a whole helluva lot happened while i was gone

anyway, 'actively being inactive' seems a bit odd, but i hardly think it merits a lynch vote :-/

on another note:


And Blade you're an igit. Just saying

is this a soft claim of bobby singer?

only other character i know to say this is garth (trying to be bobby)

[Old Bastard]

Kionay, there are a lot of words I use from the series in my everyday talk. If I was soft claiming I wouldn't make it that obvious especially not as Bobby considering there is the possibility of him being a cop. Even though I have suggested some hints of who I am, you are absolutely dead wrong. Please try again.

[Sin]

Is that why you got all defensive when I said a certain character might not be town? Hahahaha to obvious.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

man, i sleep in until 3 and nothing major happens?

sweet!

[Old Bastard]

No it's just the simple fact of when you take characters that have been the good guys for almost the entire series and then have that little bad guy streak and automatically start to assume they are the bad guy is just, not right to say the least. Dean was the bad guy for a few episodes, same with Sam, and Bobby, does that mean they are bad guys as well? If that is the case then who would be the good ones? Lucifer? Alastair? Needless to say you are wrong as well Sin.

[Sin]

Needless to say, this is What's game and he can choose alignments for anyone as he pleases. I explained why I thought Castiel was a bad guy, in that he kills innocents.

[Old Bastard]

He only ever really killed innocents when he absorbed the leviathans. I think you really need to go back and re-watch the series.

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Well then and also in the beginning when he first came around.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What sin suggesred would explain your parroting behavior.

[Sin]

Yeah I've never watched the series. I got all my info off the wikias.

[Old Bastard]

Mikey, how does anything that Sin suggests explain my 'parroting' behavior? I still think you are all daft as to how I am being. I don't have to do my research on wiki as I know the series as I previously posted many posts ago. I mostly watch you all make the suggestions and I go along with the one at the time that seems more reasonable to me.

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Just like Bobby being a cop wouldn't surprise me due to how he was in the show. Garth being a deputy equally not surprising. The suggestion of Castiel being a faith healer also not surprising. Just like due to Dean's nature it wouldn't surprise me if he was a bodyguard and Sam be a watcher or something along those lines. That's if there are even that many power roles to humans, or power roles in general.

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Also with mafia, it mostly depends on who What used, but as Cyber said it wouldn't surprise me if Crowley is in here as Godfather, but that also depends on who else of demons and alike are in here. But if Crowley is in here but so is Lucifer, then Crowley will most likely be a Roleblocker.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, how does anything that Sin suggests explain my 'parroting' behavior? I still think you are all daft as to how I am being. I don't have to do my research on wiki as I know the series as I previously posted many posts ago. I mostly watch you all make the suggestions and I go along with the one at the time that seems more reasonable to me.

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Just like Bobby being a cop wouldn't surprise me due to how he was in the show. Garth being a deputy equally not surprising. The suggestion of Castiel being a faith healer also not surprising. Just like due to Dean's nature it wouldn't surprise me if he was a bodyguard and Sam be a watcher or something along those lines. That's if there are even that many power roles to humans, or power roles in general.

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Also with mafia, it mostly depends on who What used, but as Cyber said it wouldn't surprise me if Crowley is in here as Godfather, but that also depends on who else of demons and alike are in here. But if Crowley is in here but so is Lucifer, then Crowley will most likely be a Roleblocker.

i was talking about this

Is that why you got all defensive when I said a certain character might not be town? Hahahaha to obvious.

and how it would explain your sheepish behavior.

[Old Bastard]

Wow Mikey you really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. And riddle me this, how exactly are you not parroting by suggesting the same thing other people have? Is that not the same thing that practically everyone has been doing? I haven't been getting defensive, it just irks me to watch people type out how things are supposed to be, primarily based off of reading a few sentences on wiki. Don't act like you know exactly what you are talking about on a show if you haven't fucking watched it. Plain and Simple. That's about like holding a conversation with some buddies about a ballgame that happened the night before but you didnt watch it, but you read the paper so you automatically assume that because SOME of the key points were highlighted that you automatically know everything there is to know about said game.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Wow Mikey you really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. And riddle me this, how exactly are you not parroting by suggesting the same thing other people have? Is that not the same thing that practically everyone has been doing? I haven't been getting defensive, it just irks me to watch people type out how things are supposed to be, primarily based off of reading a few sentences on wiki. Don't act like you know exactly what you are talking about on a show if you haven't fucking watched it. Plain and Simple. That's about like holding a conversation with some buddies about a ballgame that happened the night before but you didnt watch it, but you read the paper so you automatically assume that because SOME of the key points were highlighted that you automatically know everything there is to know about said game.


nope... really.. apart from locust and aco, you are the only person who undeniably follows the most popular theory. Most everyone else have dawned there thinking caps and shared opinions that go beyond.. what character is what. At the end of the day, that information you keep bringing up, gets us no where closer to winning this game.

[Old Bastard]

Please Mikey, give me the rundown of what exactly you contributed.

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and FYI, you're being fucking stupid. If I had a power role, you would be letting the mafia know plain as day. And if I was just a VT then you would be narrowing down the scums targets. That is pretty fucking scummy in it's own Mikey, so you know what.

Vote Mikey for being a fucking idiot and helping scum if he is town or being just being scum.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Please Mikey, give me the rundown of what exactly you contributed.

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and FYI, you're being fucking stupid. If I had a power role, you would be letting the mafia know plain as day. And if I was just a VT then you would be narrowing down the scums targets. That is pretty fucking scummy in it's own Mikey, so you know what.

Vote Mikey for being a fucking idiot and helping scum if he is town or being just being scum.

Listen to yourself, how is this conversation scummy? Sin made a comment about you, i simply said it could explain your behavior. I wasnt damnig you, i never once said i thought you were scum. How does that conversation implicate anybody?

All i said was that your theorizing about what character is what faction and role is pointless because i do not think it helps us. That it would be better if we put our effort into, say, asking why locust is reluctant to talk but votes every wagon he sees?

[Old Bastard]

But you have still failed to mention what exactly you have contributed other than cosigning a few statements other people have made. At least I am making the effort.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

nope... really.. apart from locust and aco, you are the only person who undeniably follows the most popular theory. Most everyone else have dawned there thinking caps and shared opinions that go beyond.. what character is what. At the end of the day, that information you keep bringing up, gets us no where closer to winning this game.


i'm going to point out that I didn't follow the most popular theory. i had suspicions on nem and sin from the beginning. when i saw movement against one of them, i lent my support.

still haven't unvoted nem btw.

[Old Bastard]

And I never said you called me scum or insinuated that I was scum. But you are simply trying to out my character and role, unknowing of whether or not it would hurt town, which either way it would be it that I'm a power role or vanilla

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

But you have still failed to mention what exactly you have contributed other than cosigning a few statements other people have made. At least I am making the effort.

i have contributed very little, same as most other people. Apart from being one of the only people who didnt read into whats intervention earlier. I havnt been as active either due to a heavy work week. Final building inspections on our job site. i have about 2 hours a day to respond in deep to all of this, i however spend alot of time reading and right now, the only thing i can provide is a dig into locust.

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i am not trying to out your role.

[Old Bastard]

neither of the last two are confirmed so there is no real way of knowing who is telling the truth until such times as one of them have been investigated.

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which we can't do investigations until such time as we move on to n2, which appears to not gonna happen for another day or 2.

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which we can't do investigations until such time as we move on to n2, which appears to not gonna happen for another day or 2.

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Yeah, me apologies about the double post, internet is being an IGIT. (just the fuck with kionay and his attempt to soft claim for me by reading into shit too much)

[Old Bastard]

Wow, still the same few people talking. Day 2 is gonna take forever at this rate.

[Old Bastard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyN-vvFIkE

[SCRIBBLE]

Everyone is doing a good job at making themselves look like scum.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Well, it is a legitimate strategy.

[Passarelli]

Locust, you were online today and didn't even feel the need to respond or at least let us know about when you would be responding?

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/member.php/3075-Locust

I was hoping that by voting for you, you might give a little bit of input or at least why you haven't been part of the discussion. The fact that you were online and didn't respond even after I directly called you out is even more suspicious.

Can we try to at least get to night two by tomorrow? I really hate having so little information to go on.

[phil.™]

This might have been said, but I am currently in traffic and don't want to look back via iPhone.
Nem role blocked aco, correct? Why aco? I'm sorry if it was explained and requesting explanation again.

Locust hasn't said anything, still.
Kion and pass playing tight.
OB jumps on a lynch vote, and then starts a lynch vote when someone is busting on him.

These are my observations from glances and reads when I can. Am I on the right track here, or off?

[Old Bastard]

I haven't jumped on any lynch vote since day 1, i put my lynch vote on mikey because in my opinion what he was doing seemed scummy to me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This might have been said, but I am currently in traffic and don't want to look back via iPhone.
Nem role blocked aco, correct? Why aco? I'm sorry if it was explained and requesting explanation again.

Locust hasn't said anything, still.
Kion and pass playing tight.
OB jumps on a lynch vote, and then starts a lynch vote when someone is busting on him.

These are my observations from glances and reads when I can. Am I on the right track here, or off?

pretty much, at the end of the day imo locust is the most suspicious, for reasons i explained above. I will repeat them due to your traffic situation, Locust does not post but once in a blue moon but is quick to jump aboard the lynch wagon when it starts up.
To my knowledge, he still has a standing vote on nem.

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Phil is referring to this. You didnt just think i was scummy, i interpreted your pots as a man raging out after ODing on steroids.


HOLY Hell, shit hit the fan while I was doing Higher things. Yeah Nem, gonna need something if you are pro-town.

Vote Nemesis

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posts* not pots.. i did not creep on any of your pots... i swear.

[Old Bastard]

LOL, better not touch my pots, boy.

Unvote

I knew it was either gonna end in him being hard-headed and lynched, or declare who he was.

As to my vote on you, you just happen to be pissing me off at the same time as my wife, so I was caught between 2 storms and just started creating tornadoes.

[phil.™]

Thank you Mikey for that.
Right now, many seems scummy as hell, locust seems verrry suspicious. I understand real life may take place and you cannot log on, but let mod know, or post and let us know.
As it may be a risk to vote locust, as he may have a power role pro town, he may also delay for mafia. With that said, i am going to withhold my vote on locust.

I am giving locust until tomorrow morning to say something or my vote will be towards him. I feel many may feel the same.

[Passarelli]

What do you mean playing tight? Tight as in low risk? If that is the case, it is because we are already down a backup townie for a major power role, we have hardly any good information (successful investigation or usable votes for analysis), and I don't want to lynch another--especially since we have several soft claims and a hard claim already out there, any of which would make a juicy target for scum. I hope the protection roles do well tonight. : /

[phil.™]

Tomorrow morning 7am EST when I get into work and start my paper work.

[Passarelli]

Thank you Mikey for that.
Right now, many seems scummy as hell, locust seems verrry suspicious. I understand real life may take place and you cannot log on, but let mod know, or post and let us know.
As it may be a risk to vote locust, as he may have a power role pro town, he may also delay for mafia. With that said, i am going to withhold my vote on locust.

I am giving locust until tomorrow morning to say something or my vote will be towards him. I feel many may feel the same.

Many might be overstating it, but there are definitely several people I'm suspicious of. Locust logging in today and not replying after I tried putting pressure on him is definitely leading the pack in that regard. At least let us know when you will be available to read up and comment.

The other person I still suspect greatly is Mikey. Those that claimed still need to be confirmed before I will truly believe them. They could just as easily be lying.

Cyber, I hope you will keep hunting through posts for clues to see if we can confirm anyone when we get to day 3.

[CYBER]

Mikey did you subtly drop a soft claim recently? Or am I reading too much into that?

As far as I know, people that I trust in this game:
Myself (duh because awesome), old bastard, and to a lesser extent :Sin.

People i do not trust whatsoever: Nemesis, Passerelli.

People that might get on my shit list if they don't engage well soon : locust, scribble.

People that I have no idea what they are doing: mikey, Nemesis AGAIN, Aco, blade ...

People that I feel like trusting but afraid of trusting until they... Ehm.. Give me something to subtly trust: blackmage, Phil.

And as for the rest, if any, do something radical ffs so that we can confirm your allegiance by now instead of just watching...

As for me, for those who trust in me and my walls that contain pertinent info about myself and others, thanks for noticing it. And as for those who want to know why u should trust in me, I have already hinted way too much and if you still don't get it, I don't want you on my side lol... And for those who dnt trust me nonetheless, i dont give a rats ass because I'm awesome, bitch.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Many might be overstating it, but there are definitely several people I'm suspicious of. Locust logging in today and not replying after I tried putting pressure on him is definitely leading the pack in that regard. At least let us know when you will be available to read up and comment.

The other person I still suspect greatly is Mikey. Those that claimed still need to be confirmed before I will truly believe them. They could just as easily be lying.

Cyber, I hope you will keep hunting through posts for clues to see if we can confirm anyone when we get to day 3.

Do you have a legitimate reason to suspect me apart from me not agreeing with your opinion? There is a funny thing about opinions, not all are the same. remember this.

[phil.™]

For some odd reason, the only people I do not fear being mafia is Mikey, sin and nem. Am I on a completely different page than anyone else?

[Passarelli]

It is mostly due to how you disagreed, as well as you "thinking that post was made on day 2" as to why you didn't respond to it.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

It is mostly due to how you disagreed, as well as you "thinking that post was made on day 2" as to why you didn't respond to it.

most posts i read are while im hiding in a corner of the factory im constructing. its very quick. but enough with excuses, i acknowledged my mistake and explained why i disagreed. As far as how i disagreed, thats who i am. Scour these forums and you will see me talking like that to alot of people.

Id also like to note that i feel you feel the way you do because you still for some reason think that whats intervention was the tall tale sign that we shouldn't have kept pushing a lynch on stan. I did not read into his intervention post like some of you did, thus our diffrence in opinion regarding the matter.

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note my sig

[CYBER]

Many might be overstating it, but there are definitely several people I'm suspicious of. Locust logging in today and not replying after I tried putting pressure on him is definitely leading the pack in that regard. At least let us know when you will be available to read up and comment.

The other person I still suspect greatly is Mikey. Those that claimed still need to be confirmed before I will truly believe them. They could just as easily be lying.

Cyber, I hope you will keep hunting through posts for clues to see if we can confirm anyone when we get to day 3.

Shush. Don't tell me what to do. U worry about ur shit, I'll wry about mine. Odds are however that myself and definitely another person, will not be seeing day3 tho because I feel like I'm making too much noise, big walls of noise lol.. But with my recent actions, if I were to go down, I'm gonna put an end to a very important question haunting everyone in this game so that I leave you guys with 1 less voice to wry about.

On a side note, I Pray that since u are a Highly convenient veteran of supernatural, i trust that u know that this show had quite a famous producer.
Gotta love supernatural man, a good producer might have a lot of stories to tell with many interesting characters if given the chance, you need to look him up soon.

[Passarelli]

Cyber, are there any other reasons you do not trust me besides what I did prior to the start? If I can explain why I did anything to help allay your suspicions, I would gladly do so. If not and you can't get past it--well, hopefully my logic and voting will eventually sway your opinion before you decide to lynch me.

[CYBER]

enough with excuses, i acknowledged my mistake


That's by far the scummiest thing mikey has EVER said. Lynch da fool! Lol

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Cyber, are there any other reasons you do not trust me besides what I did prior to the start? If I can explain why I did anything to help allay your suspicions, I would gladly do so. If not and you can't get past it--well, hopefully my logic and voting will eventually sway your opinion before you decide to lynch me.

Oh don't worry about lynched :) i was just saying.

[Locust]

i'm going to point out that I didn't follow the most popular theory. i had suspicions on nem and sin from the beginning. when i saw movement against one of them, i lent my support.

still haven't unvoted nem btw.

^ this is the same for me.


As for not responding too much, I try and not say too much because I know if I rush into saying something I may say something really, really stupid. That being said, I'll say that I'm town sided. I don't want to hard claim because of what blackmage said to me after the last game which is that I claimed too early for his liking. I've been reading everything when I can.

I'm still slightly suspicious of nem because of how quickly he's willing to part with someone who's claimed to be Town sided so I haven't yet decided to unvote him at this point.

I think that OB tends to play it fast and loose with his votes.

At the time of posting this I've only read up to page 43 but I wanted to post before you guys went and lynched me while I was reading. So, I'm going back to reading everything and I may post again after.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

That's by far the scummiest thing mikey has EVER said. Lynch da fool! Lol

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Oh don't worry about lynched :) i was just saying.
I know right? Lol its so unlike me.

[CYBER]

Son of a bitch. I was replying to Passerelli thinking I'm replying to la bastard the entire time... Pass u know WHY I thought u were old bastard... But shisha anyway, don't mock, its this day phone posting shit again... Ffs

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I know right? Lol its so unlike me.it's almost like you went from being a drunk igjit douchenozzle buried in your own work, but now you became a good and integral part of us over years.

Am I anywhere close? Or you just Rolling me with ur kindness?

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Trolling. Not rolling. Ffs autocorrect, why would I ever say Rolling in this context... Mmm?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Son of a bitch. I was replying to Passerelli thinking I'm replying to la bastard the entire time... Pass u know WHY I thought u were old bastard... But shisha anyway, don't mock, its this day phone posting shit again... Ffs

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it's almost like you went from being a drunk igjit douchenozzle buried in your own work, but now you became a good and integral part of us over years.

Am I anywhere close? Or you just Rolling me with ur kindness?

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Trolling. Not rolling. Ffs autocorrect, why would I ever say Rolling in this context... Mmm?
Yup sounds about right lol. Not the trolling part. Anywho, its bed time, work weekend..... yay.... not

[Passarelli]

I didn't mean to tell you what to do, only that you are pretty good at picking up on subtleties as well and I would love to have a veteran's opinion of these.

Also, why do you trust those that have laid those hints out? Sure, I'd want some decent evidence against them before I would vote to lynch them, but trusting them is taking it a little too far.



On a side note, I Pray that since u are a Highly convenient veteran of supernatural, i trust that u know that this show had quite a famous producer.
Gotta love supernatural man, a good producer might have a lot of stories to tell with many interesting characters if given the chance, you need to look him up soon.

I've only seen the 1st season. I can pick up on hints however, and google does a good bit of the legwork. I will, however, likely sit down to watch it after i finish s2 of Hannibal. That said, if the hints were directed more at the series then roles, I am likely very wrong as to who is what.

Mikey, it is why I am suspicious of you. You can claim that you missed it or whatever now but that doesn't make it true. I have no way of knowing if I should trust you that you simply missed it or continue scrutinizing you. Since we have so little information, I'd much rather keep an eye on you.

Also, you should note that it wasn't even so much that I thought he was a VT (sure, that may have been a factor, but it wasn't my argument. I was arguing that if you wanted to do a policy vote, you should wait until day 2 at least, so we have accurate voting results to base night actions on the first night. We could use those same results for the 2nd night if investigations did not succeed. Policy votes in general are just bad, especially on day 1 as you have no useful information for night actions night 1 or for day 2.

I was arguing for a better strategy. I don't know how else to explain it get you to see that.

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Holy jesus, Locust posted!

Sadly he said... not much. Does anyone here want to claim to not be town sided? I'd love a free lynch on mafia. ; p

That said, I'll go ahead and wait until he finishes reading. Thank you for finally getting back to us, however.

Tentatively-
Unvote Locust

Just be sure that you add enough the the conversation.

Is there anyone else we haven't heard much from?


Cyber, I'd really hate to be killed in any context, I was hoping you'd pick up on that without me saying anything else.

I'm a little offended that you thought I was OB by the way. :lmao:

[phil.™]

Okay, so day2, and in general is going too long.
Can we please have some information, get this going?
Anywho, i'm going to bed. Strangely, Saturday's are usually SLAMMED with appointments, i only have 4. SO i should be more active tomorrow than the past few days (unless i have a crazy amount of walk-ins).

[CYBER]

Yeah mikey it's all gd. Ppl hit bumps on the way, but remember to always have a "Personal Reform", because when the time comes, this will be the only way to keep going. I mean u will always be a dick, but at least you put a cap on it. Right?

Again, Personal Reform, stick by those words, bitch.



---

I actually have a poker night today, and I'm gonna go grab a few beers, or maybe I should take a look later at the signature sectional get some of the good stuff, so if I post later incoherently ... I apologize, its the drinking, aka the Jesus water lol, but drunk ppl will relate to some of it tho right? Lol

C ya later.

[Passarelli]

Good luck Cyber, go win some money!

[phil.™]

Good luck Cyber, go win some money!

Shouldn't be saying that on the world wide web lol.

[What]

The second day has now gone over 48 hours. The current vote count is:

Acolyte: Nem
Locust: Nem

[brett friggin favre]

***this shit is slower than government***

[CYBER]

WOOO Drunk mode activated! : 6aA3Oks5poQk08XPZZ4CMsninXawG4VehenHYOo0GnM

oh my fucking Jesus, that Signature drink hit the spot, I believe that it was called Gost, or Ghost, cant remember. I didn't bother reading the rest of the label as it didn't change anything about the taste, but I Highly believe that someone might guess the Base contents of that drink better than most.
btw, I swear I almost hit a car on my way to that poker game, would have been featured on cbc news... Never drink and drive ppl.

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PICwKWbAr2FC3BMKp/R7RCE0VXj/ubg1PKcOuOQ54Cs=
OMFG Mikey my keyboard just went crazy... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I just had another drink, pretty sure it was called Snake or something.

Like i said in my last post, i'm not much about labels, but you used to be a heavy drinker before you Changed, I'm sure you'll figure it out if you're that much of a know it all :)


onto my next drink! woot.

[What]

Only warning for this, and can't believe it needs to be said. Attempting to use an outside website in order to convey messages is strictly against the rules. All communication must take place in the thread. It can be as convoluted and veiled as you would like it be, but when an outside site that can not be regulated must be utilized it crosses a line. Just play the damn game.

[CYBER]

Only warning for this, and can't believe it needs to be said. Attempting to use an outside website in order to convey messages is strictly against the rules. All communication must take place in the thread. It can be as convoluted and veiled as you would like it be, but when an outside site that can not be regulated must be utilized it crosses a line. Just play the damn game.
A third party site... available to see by anyone, scum or town.
using a text that is read by all parties.
encrypted by a keyword that has been disclosed IN the thread.


ALL actions occured within the thread, all is on fair ground of communication. the whole purpose behind "do not talk outside of thread" is so that INFORMATION IS SHARED equally TO ALL.

This is exactly what is happening here. I strongly disagree with what you are saying as getting to trade those keywords subtly throughout 50 pages wasn't that fucking easy btw... it took some effort and communication which this game encourages, and those who are attentive would have seen the same thing, no matter what side.


That being said , i will let this go because the rule is to not question the mod, and i will follow what What says, even though i am strongly opposing what he says. But this WILL be talked about in the end of the game. But for now. the mod is right, and for those taht i was communicating with subtly from the start, don't use what i talked about. play the game the info u have, and we'll return to this on Prompt later.

[What]

The point of communicating in the thread is so that all messages are preserved and open for all. A third party site can not be regulated, nor can their be any assurance that the messages within are maintained and preserved. It is clearly against the spirit of the game, and explicitly against the rules. ALL communication must occur in the thread. If you are using another website to send those messages that is against the rules.

[CYBER]

The point of communicating in the thread is so that all messages are preserved and open for all. A third party site can not be regulated, nor can their be any assurance that the messages within are maintained and preserved. It is clearly against the spirit of the game, and explicitly against the rules. ALL communication must occur in the thread. If you are using another website to send those messages that is against the rules.
Thats fine. u have ur modding. i have mine.
For me it was a clever move for those who were actually PAYING ATTENTION in the thread instead of just skimming and ranting.

Issue resolved as far as i know as this was my very first attempt to test the waters with a new game mechanic that seemed fair ground, got the warning though and i will respect your decision and let it go till the end of the game where i can happily discuss this. :)

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any way...

anyone has something to share that can bring us back on track with day 2?
it's taking too long ffs.
im almost about to random lynch someone just to get shit spiced up again ...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

For some odd reason, the only people I do not fear being mafia is Mikey, sin and nem. Am I on a completely different page than anyone else?


Thats fine. u have ur modding. i have mine.
For me it was a clever move for those who were actually PAYING ATTENTION in the thread instead of just skimming and ranting.

Issue resolved as far as i know as this was my very first attempt to test the waters with a new game mechanic that seemed fair ground, got the warning though and i will respect your decision and let it go till the end of the game where i can happily discuss this. :)

i'm going to assume those text strings you put in your post were encrypted in some way. most likely using a keyword from elsewhere in the thread.

lets see...within that post alone you have...

Jesus; Signature;Gost; Ghost; Highly ; Base;Snake; Changed
JSGGHBSC (or JSGHBSC)

meh. i could probably figure out what was going on if i cared enough. if all communication was within the thread, who gives a fuck? so cyber knows some crypto. woohoo.

[Blackmage]

Well, my dad's kidnapping me tomorrow afternoon as well. Today was fun, but this has taken me almost 4 hours to write, and I know I'm saying the same thing multiple times. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know.


For some odd reason, the only people I do not fear being mafia is Mikey, sin and nem. Am I on a completely different page than anyone else?

Phil doesn't trust himself. Noted and stored.

Scribble, would you care to expound upon your post? Do you find anyone more or less scummy?

Too much of my distrust is due to, as Cyber put it, people not doing anything "radical". I include Scribble, Blade, Aco, Kion and Locust here. I also don't trust Cyber, but I'm 99% sure I'm getting the wrong signals, which I'm fairly sure is tainting my review. None of this is anything but lack of knowledge distrust rather than scum distrust, however.

However, I still don't trust Nem isn't scum. Some of Nem's comments have rubbed me the wrong way after the claim, but a healer claim is always something to be careful around. However, if he is mafia jailer, it means that Cas is probably a full doc and not just a faith healer. In any case, we want Nem to NOT hit our Cop today.

Still on the fence about Sin, but in any case, he's a known entity. One night, the cop can investigate him, and may have already.

I trust Phil, just not his judgement. Actually, I'm not sure why after I think about it.

Pass and OB, I'm tentatively trusting them. Still trying to learn their play styles.

Mikey... Isn't as offputting as normal... This shouldn't be suspicious... Of course Nem played the nice SK...

With Scribble's posting, I think it's safe to say, our roles came up with nothing useful last night. As such, we need to avoid policy lynching anyone. We've wasted one day on a policy, and got nothing night 1, plus we've already killed off a replacement information gatherer. The more dead, the less targets the scum have in order to get the cop. Unless we think we can assure a night search that hits scum, and the cop's survival, we don't want to risk a second policy.

As a note for our cop, if he's new. Try to make sure we can figure out who you have investigated before you died, but try to be subtle about it so you don't reveal yourself too early. Just because you only found a townie doesn't mean we shouldn't know in the case you die at night. However, if you HAVEN'T done this yet, I've probably made you job harder, which I apologize for. Also, in general, if you're being lynched, just post a summary of your action list, regardless of your role. Information is key, even if it costs. It also sometimes can save your life :)

Given people's lists of who they trust and don't trust, I'm afraid that the aforementioned "divide and conquer after all, with just enough confusion" was successful. We need to come to some consensus, and act. Currently, the thing we seem to have the strongest opinions on is Nem, so let's try to figure out a plan. He's as out in the open as can be. For those who trust him currently, was it his claim, or something else that has made you trust him? For those who don't, do you think it would be safe to let him act tonight, and if so, what do we do?

My opinion on the topic. Forcing the cop to clear him would be dangerous. If Nem gets Framed or killed, we lose a cop action. If the cop gets Roleblocked or killed, we're in the same situation as today, just probably down one or more players. There's also the problem that his role is possible for both sides, which means he could claim his true role and just lie about the alignment. It is also useless for protecting the cop, and can't be used to cross protect either. We can just use it as a roleblocker, but that requires either trusting Nem's judgement on scum hunting, or believing we know scum, but are unwilling to lynch them.

The role can be powerful, with some limitations. For it to be used usefully, we have to trust Nem's judgement. However, lynching him requires believing there's a high chance he is scum, or believing we can figure out the scum from votes and night actions. With some of us avoiding even soft claiming and most avoiding full claiming we probably won't get information except by pressing hard. We have a number of people who are close to silent, and not all of them can be scum, so Nem is currently my vote, but he's not getting my official vote yet.

As for what just happened, I'm going to suggest making a new thread for it when we're done with this game, because it probably would be good to have it archived separately from a game.

[SCRIBBLE]

Everyone is just posting speculative nonsense. Either no one received any useful info last night, those that did have a reason to withhold it, or they are newer and afraid of giving too much info about themselves.. There are a few that seem to be trying to run people in different directions and they may have helpful info but they need to figure out a better way to convey it to the rest of us.

[Blackmage]

...Well that's embarrassing...Carry on...

[Passarelli]

Cyber, I'm pretty sure what you did tops what I did. I hadn't actually looked at the rules when I broke them which is a sin of ignorance.

Did you ask anyone about their roles in your secret code which you needed to go to a different website to read? Because if so, that would be a sin of intent for the same shit you called me out on.


I ASK EVERYONE TO NOT TALK TO ANYONE outside of this thread about your/their roles.

I would greatly appreciate having what was said put into public record, as I can no longer even look for said coded messages since your "signature drink" is missing.


I'm pretty sure Locust has nothing else to say, noone has offered any alternatives (besides Nem whom I trust enough now to let him go until he is investigated) and as such the tentative respite is almost over. Cyber gave you an extention. I'm still going to hold my vote till morning, as I see passing secret messages during the day as awfully scummy. If what was said doesn't shed any new light on anything and doesn't appear overtly scummy I will be voting for Locust.

If the secret message crap isn't posted--I don't care if you are a Hunter and shoot me, I'll be voting for you Cyber. Or if what you said IS overtly scummy, I definitely still be voting for you.

AoJ, the problem is it wasn't all within the thread. It would be one thing if all of the information someone needed was within the thread (common cyphers could easily have been used). The problem is he hard a 3rd party site that you had to use to read it. But again, that can be argued later. The problem is, those that got to read it now have more information then is available to anyone else and those that haven't can no longer find it.

[Sin]

The fuck just happened? Cyber you trying to get messages out to your mafioso brethren?!

Imma go play some Wildstar. Someone shed some light on this message and share it with all of us pls.

[Old Bastard]

Just saying under my suspicion he had it in his signature but got caught up on it, with that being said though what I am interpreting is, the scum is getting narrowed down to. We know Sin, possibly Nem, I know Cyber I think(have no reason not to trust him so far), and a couple of people know me. So with that being said, how about all you others? Got a claim or something you would like to share? Or we just got lynch a random out of you all?

Suspect List:
Locust
Aco
Phil
Scribble
Blade

The rest so far have left with no reason atm to suspect them as scum. What do ya'll think, at least the first few people I named at top including me. I'm leaning towards Locust as he still hasnt said much.

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I also am pretty sure I know who Cyber is, but I think he rather not keep it in the open. But granted I'm not entirely sure.

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And btw for anyone that has a suspicion on Nem, he is doing the same thing he did last game, sitting back to see what we can do before he jumps in. He was town-aligned then. I think if Nem wasn't town aligned he would be posting a lot less often or posting all the time.

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Nem, I know you dislike me and I dislike you but care to add some input? Maybe get the ball rolling in a scum's direction?

[Nemesis]

For now we should be careful of lynching the quiet people because, while a good strat for mafia, it's also good idea for the doc.

The cyber thing is all fucked but I missed the signature thing so I'm a little in the dark but we've seen cyber drunk and he doesn't usually go all valley girl (omg I'm so drunk!) so we can say that everything he did there was done deliberately. That isn't something that should be taken lightly. Not saying he's scum, but also shouldn't be let off easily.

Also, why would I hate you?

[Old Bastard]

Just for the sheer fact that we haven't gotten along ever. Now I'm gonna go as far as saying the first statement you said is of little worry to anyone as I know who the doc is, could be me or a few other people and I will leave it at that, but I know who it is. It's damn sure not any of the people I named off as suspects.

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But I do agree on our doc laying low and that is what they are doing. I will tell you if you try to lynch them if they choose not to speak up, till the last second.

[Nemesis]

Just for the sheer fact that we haven't gotten along ever. Now I'm gonna go as far as saying the first statement you said is of little worry to anyone as I know who the doc is, could be me or a few other people and I will leave it at that, but I know who it is. It's damn sure not any of the people I named off as suspects.

I would say you don't. There's a few ways would could have come up with that so lets go through them.

Easiest way is its you, which I doubt you're dumb enough to call it out.
Second way is through investigation and you get told the role instead of just alignment. It's very rare but not impossible.
Third is something you read into, which could be wrong for a multitude of reasons.


So don't tell me who it is, but can you tell me how you know?

[Old Bastard]

We will say the third. but highly doubtful that I am wrong.

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Which reminds me, is Cyber the only one who has gathered who I am, or am I the only other one who is catching people's hints?

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I mean Sin has an idea, but from here on out would prefer if people keep there ideas of who someone is to themselves if that person is town aligned, because mafia already know who is mafia, but town need to know who town are, but the thing is we can't out each other from town due to likelihood of placing roles from there and outting targets for scum. Scum doesn't need to know who is VT or power role, therefore don't need to know who is who. If you find out who someone is just tell them, you got it and move on.

[Nemesis]

As long as the doc knows the right person to cover anything else isn't needed.

[phil.™]

Suspect List:
Locust
Aco
Phil
Scribble
Blade


Why the fuck am I on this list? What did I do?

[Old Bastard]

Why the fuck am I on this list? What did I do?

Little to nothing Phil which is why I find you as a suspect. I understand you work and shit, but your input has been minimal and you have yet to place a vote on Locust even though that was your original plan for this morning.

[Nemesis]

A past mafia strat it to be constantly busy with work. Always delaying another day, another eight hours. It's buying time to let everyone else run in circles and chase ghosts.

[Old Bastard]

Well we are about 64 hours into D2 and we need to get something moving.

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Nem, back to your previous statement, how would the doc know who to cover, unless he managed to pick up on the hints of other people which he has not stated he has at all.

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I'm still mostly learning is why I ask, the doc probably already knows, but for learning sake for me.

[phil.™]

I understand you work and shit, but your input has been minimal and you have yet to place a vote on Locust even though that was your original plan for this morning.

Yes, I work. I don't just work for someone or some other company, I have my own fucking business to run. So if shit doesnt get done by 9am-5pm, I have to do it and make sure it gets done. And you both know minj and dinkz and how incompetent they are to complete a task without me watching them.

I haven't placed a vote on Locust because I said I will give him till the day to speak up. He spoke. You still want me to vote him? Seems a bit scummy for you. Why are you rushing a vote on people? I understand D2 is taking forever, but no rush.

[Old Bastard]

I think you fail to understand Phil, Locust has said minimal as well other than he is town-sided. Scum would say that to make sure they are in the clear especially without adding anything to it. If we don't get d2 moving anytime soon it is likely there will be a deadline placed and if we reach the deadline then there will be a mod kill. Nothing scummy about it, just the simple fact that we are wasting valuable time to pick what we want to do before it is chosen for us.

[Passarelli]

Cyber still hasn't posted the secret message bullshit even though he was online at 6 AM.

Vote Cyber

OB, if you weren't talking in code to Cyber and giving legitimate hints--I told you I would have tried to stop a lynch on you, as I caught what it was you were saying. I said that right after you pointed out you had dropped some hints. Blackmage called me out on this (since you were the only person to have voted for Stan day 1 and Nem day 2) and I explained my reasoning. I was hoping you were trying bait scum to try to get more data.

With all of that said--Cyber, I will probably unvote you if you post what was said in secret--convoluted hints is one thing but passing whole complete messages during the day is pretty scummy.

Any other ideas who to lynch besides Cyber or Locust? I know everyone wants to play it safe but we need the voting data so people can make better decisions.

[Old Bastard]

I'm sorry Pass that you can't seem to grasp someone's hints, he dropped other hints long before what he did last night. With you dropping a vote on what I am positive is a town-aligned individual, my hands are tied in doing this.

VoPassarte elli

At least if you are going to vote someone for something, give a decent reason other than the fact that you have failed to catch his earlier hints. That in my opinion is scummy in its own way and I don't like it.

[phil.™]

Then what's your vote jesus. You keep jumping on a vote, and then unvoting.
I don't comment much and put much thought, because most of you guys do a wall of text, with "hidden messages" within. I'm too busy to decode all that. I read what I read, take what I want to take from it. If there's hidden message within, I won't even double look at it.

With that said, I've been cautious of you, and aco. Your game play is a littleeee, mehhhh scummy per se?

[Old Bastard]

oops vote fucked up

Vote Passarelli

[phil.™]

I see you just voted. Gotcha. Gonna unvote soon?

[Nemesis]

So I assume someone had a website in their signature and the codes posted were a password of sorts?

[Old Bastard]

I see you just voted. Gotcha. Gonna unvote soon?

Phil if you think I am scum then start the lynch train by all means, but needless to say I don't think you will get anywhere.

[SCRIBBLE]

ob and nem are my prime suspects at the moment.

[Old Bastard]

So I assume someone had a website in their signature and the codes posted were a password of sorts?

I guess, I wasn't here for that I was asleep. But I caught his much earlier hints when he was talking directly to me on here. I have a great deal of confidence on knowing who he is.(I have watched the show enough to understand most of what is said, even if minimal.)

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ob and nem are my prime suspects at the moment.

I wonder why that is Scribble? Possibly because you are scum? Because not many people find us suspects other than the 'few' people who are always 'away'. Imagine that.

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and what exactly have you contributed Scribble? Like honestly?

[phil.™]

Phil if you think I am scum then start the lynch train by all means, but needless to say I don't think you will get anywhere.

I never said you were scum, i just said you play scummy. Like I said before, I don't start lynch train for no reason.
Nobody has given decent valid information; if they have hidden it in their walls of text, thennnn that blew past me.

[Old Bastard]

Passarelli, if you aren't scum, then who are you?

[Passarelli]

@ OB - The thing is, I don't know if those were hints he was dropping, or more secret fucking code. That is why I want the whole thing put into public record. If he would have used a standard cypher I likely would have broken it and would know what it said by now. The fact of the matter is he outed my mistaken question to him then broke the same rule and hasn't commented after I TOLD him I would vote for him, regardless if his 'hints' might be valid. OB, you should really be careful trusting so much in peoples hints--scum would be dropping them also.

Hopefully Cyber will get back to us sooner then later with enough of a reason for me to unvote him. (like posting what was said)

OB, I find it funny that you jump on me when I gave Cyber ample time to clear himself before I voted him and he simply forced me to follow through on what I promised to do.

[Old Bastard]

Because you are the only person asking for Cyber to confirm who he is, which is fucking scummy. My apologies that you seem to be the only person who can't seem to gather who people are. Who exactly are you Passarelli? Since you feel that outting Town is the thing to do.

[Passarelli]

If you can't catch my hints--well, I'm not gonna say.

@Nem - Yes, from the 'clues' he left, he had a link in his sig that would let you decode his messages (like the one where it looks as if he bashed his face off his computer)

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I did NOT ask him to confirm who he was. I just want to see the damn scummy secret messages. Do you not see people sending secret messages during the day as scummy?

[Old Bastard]

He wasn't sending secret messages during the day, he was conveying his hints in his walls of text. What happened last night, I can't vouch for due to me sleeping, but I can say this from his hints in walls of text I have gathered he is town, that what you need to know. Now off the vote on him, and relay to us who you are, or I recommend that we fucking lynch train your ass. Because you post these wall of texts with no real possible hints in it and if you did no one has saw it or you wouldn't be in question. Needless to say you are now on my shitlist.

[Nemesis]

If Cyber was using external means to pass messages then that's pretty bad. It's no different from msging someone on steam. Especially coming from a mod who you'd expect to have some integrity.

Rampant cheating makes this game no fun and puts it totally out of the mod's hands through no fault of his own.

I'm not sure if I want to play with people who would do that, especially when they harp so much while being in change.

This is disgusting if it is what actually happened.

[Old Bastard]

If Cyber was using external means to pass messages then that's pretty bad. It's no different from msging someone on steam. Especially coming from a mod who you'd expect to have some integrity.

Rampant cheating makes this game no fun and puts it totally out of the mod's hands through no fault of his own.

I'm not sure if I want to play with people who would do that, especially when they harp so much while being in change.

This is disgusting if it is what actually happened.

Well atm we need to give him the chance to clear his name, as we have done with numerous others. If we are about giving people time then so be it. But we have to give him a chance. I primarily say it because if we lynch Cyber we are almost definitely lynching town which is a big mistake.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i'm going to point out that I have no fucking clue who any of ya'll are. Everyone is "dropping hints" and i'm convinced you mother fuckers are just bullshit. lol.

[kionay]

I'm always impressed at the rate people can post in the threads for these games, i leave for not too long and come back to an extra, what, 5-10 pages? kinda surprised in that time no real hard candidates for a lynch have surfaced?

world record for a mafia game indeed, go go go! XD

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i'm going to point out that I have no fucking clue who any of ya'll are. Everyone is "dropping hints" and i'm convinced you mother fuckers are just bullshit. lol.

Or not very smart.

Pretty sure I know who ob is. You know.. cause he had hogher things to do.

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Or not very smart.

Pretty sure I know who ob is. You know.. cause he had hogher things to do.
Higher*

[Passarelli]

I was simply following through on a promise. I told him I would vote for him when I woke up if it wasn't posted. He was online on ibis website at 6 AM--it wasn't posted. Then here I was, 1 PM, just woke up and it still wasn't posted. Not much else I could do without lying.

Nemesis, it IS true what he did, which is why I want the whole of the conversation put into public record. Otherwise what exactly would What's post and their ensuing argument over the rules mean?

What I gathered is that Cyber put a keyword in his post which when you clicked on the link in his sig it would use the keyword to translate the random character strings he was giving out. This is not only Scummy, but it made me lose all faith for the previous hints he dropped as they could have easily just been there to throw people off or as part of other encrypted messages.

Also OB, there has been a hint in almost every one of my messages since yesterday. It isn't my fault if you can't see it.

[Old Bastard]

Needless to say, I'm not convinced Pass, my vote stands.